israel foils a plot that would have caused mass destruction

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    Nov 27, 2014 6:48 PM GMT
    Israeli security forces said Thursday they have broken up a wide-ranging terror plot, which would have included attacks on a football stadium, abductions and car bombings.

    Authorities arrested at least 30 members of Palestinian militant group Hamas and seized rifles, ammunition and explosives, said the Shin Bet, the country's security agency.

    The terror cells were getting orders from Hamas leaders in Turkey, while the operatives got their training outside Israel and were then smuggled back in to carry out the attacks, the Shin Bet said.

    The arrests were made in September after explosive devices were detonated on August 31 in the West Bank, leading to a full investigation.

    Among the targets selected were the Teddy football stadium and a light rail station in Jerusalem, the Shin Bet said. There were also plans to carry out attacks and abductions in Jewish settlements in the West Bank, it said.

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised the Shin Bet and Israel Defense Forces "for foiling very dangerous terrorist actions that could have claimed many victims in our country."

    While this operation has been made public, many other counter-terror actions against Hamas remain secret, he said, while visiting the Sde Boker kibbutz in southern Israel.

    "We are operating day and night in order to maintain the security of Israel's citizens; the people who do this are deserving of all praise and support," he said.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/27/world/meast/mideast-tensions/index.html
  • Webster666

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    Nov 28, 2014 4:54 AM GMT
    This will always be a problem, requiring constant vigilance.
    The sons a bitches refuse to leave Israel alone.
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    Nov 28, 2014 9:38 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidThis will always be a problem, requiring constant vigilance.
    The sons a bitches refuse to leave Israel alone.
    yes indeed. in fact israel uncovered a plot to over throw ABBAS. this occured in september. ABBAS ordered investigation in to it and he confirmed. HAMAS doesn want peace they want destuction
  • tj85016

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    Nov 28, 2014 11:09 AM GMT
    lol the Middle East, who really cares?
  • JackDoyle

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    Nov 28, 2014 12:40 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidThis will always be a problem, requiring constant vigilance.
    The sons a bitches refuse to leave Israel alone.



    Haaaaaa! They refuse to leave Israel alone? Oh poor defenseless Israel that bombed every man woman and child in Palestine icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 28, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
    Bonaparts said
    JackDoyle said
    Webster666 saidThis will always be a problem, requiring constant vigilance.
    The sons a bitches refuse to leave Israel alone.



    Haaaaaa! They refuse to leave Israel alone? Oh poor defenseless Israel that bombed every man woman and child in Palestine icon_rolleyes.gif


    if they bommbed everyone in palestine there would be no one left, yet muslim population is growing, Einstein

    hamas is responsilbe for every causality! EVERY1 take a look.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoK9YL6D5RE

    israel urges palestians to leave area where thousands of rockets are being fired from. gave a warning! what did hamas do ? they told them to stay
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm09uRDdzto

    also after the israel dropped the pamplets . they call a cellphone and GIVE A 8 min warning before the bomb! even the united nations admiited this

    http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/10/united-nations-most-gaza-casualties-were-warned-by-idf-to-leave-targeted-buildings-in-advance/ once again HAMAS urges residents to stay in the house and EVEN killed hundered that tried to leave .


    now we all know civilian casualities will occur for example uk reported killed tens of thousandcivilian citizens in iraq and afgan, lybia, ETC.


    FINALLY ABBAS ADMITTED THAT NEARLY 1000 MEMBER OF fatah (18-29) WERE KILLED . that doesnt even include hamas members.





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    Nov 28, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
    100 years from now the same shit will be going on....
  • secondstartot...

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    Nov 29, 2014 5:35 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidlol the Middle East, who really cares?

    well I live here so I care...I live in Beersheva I teach english at an Jewish and Arab school

    so no you shouldn't care ...only care about your self ...

  • mwolverine

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    Nov 30, 2014 4:53 AM GMT
    See also:

    "Palestine" is the Latin/European name for Eretz Yisrael, the Jewish homeland
    - and early 20th century Arab denials of the existence of "Palestine".

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/349491

    The Palestine Paradox
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2652202

    Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people.
    (Judaism is a religion, Jews are an ethnic group)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/494893

    Arabs are not indigenous to Israel - now confirmed by Hamas
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/979648

    1947-1948: Arabs reject compromise and attack Israel
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/960691

    Jerusalem
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/887747

    The two-state solution: Revisiting the Clinton Compromise Parameters and the Olmert Plan.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2670812


    Countries that support gays or kill them
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/984797

    Gay Palestinians
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1061322?forumpage=4

    Israel Plans Monument to Gays Persecuted by Nazis
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3401610
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 01, 2014 5:10 PM GMT
    An Arab Israeli speaks out:



    Transcript also available here:
    http://www.aish.com/jw/me/Calling-for-Palestinian-Forward-Thinking.html
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    Dec 02, 2014 6:53 AM GMT
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    Dec 02, 2014 5:17 PM GMT
    The Arab village of Kafr Kana in the Lower Galilee is identified in Christian tradition as Cana of the Galilee. Here, according to tradition, Jesus performed the miracle of the wine, when he went to a wedding of a poor couple and turned water into wine. In the 17th century Kafr Kana was officially recognized by the Vatican, and the pope officially confirmed that Kafr Kana is indeed Cana of the Galilee. Following this recognition the village was added to the list of Christian holy places. Some researchers identify Kafr Kana with the Kana mentioned in the ancient Egyptian Amarna letters (from about 4,000 years ago).

    One way or the other, in the Roman-Byzantine period (1,000-2,000 years ago), there was a large Jewish community here, but apparently by the Mamluk period (about 800 years ago) most of the residents of Kafr Kana were Christian, although there was still a Jewish community here, too. Today most of the residents of Kafr Kana are Muslim.

    In the center of the village are a few remains of ancient buildings and burial caves. The villagers have built new houses to the southeast and northeast of the ancient village. The most important site in the village is the Catholic Church, built in 1879, on the traditional site of the miracle of the wine. Beside this church is the Greek Orthodox church of St. George, built in 1886, which house two stone jars that Greek Orthodox followers believe are the jars in which Jesus performed the miracle of the wine.

    There is also a church named after St. Bartholomew, built, according to tradition, on the site of the home of Nathaniel of Cana (St. Bartholomew), one of Jesus’ disciples.

    Some 200,000 tourists visit Kafr Kana annually. Inspired by the miracle of the wine, a tradition has developed of holding weddings here, as well as renewing wedding vows to strengthen a marriage, and visitors customarily buy wine here. The street of the churches, in the center of the village, has been renovated and a promenade has been built, connecting the religious centers. Small plazas have been built along the promenade, with rest spots, and the facades and courtyards of the buildings have been attractively refinished. Infrastructure has been laid alongside the promenade for commercial and hotel facilities, so that visitors will be able to combine the comforts of modern tourism with their religious experience.
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 02, 2014 6:32 PM GMT
    A larger and long-standing fear amongst Israeli Arabs is that Israel will cede their villages/cities to the Palestinian Arab state-to-be in a territorial land swap (in exchange for Jewish villages, "settlements", in the disputed territories).
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    Dec 02, 2014 9:42 PM GMT
    Again the idiotic comparison to Bantustans?
    They covered 14%, were not independent, sovereign or internationally recognized.

    Israeli Arabs (95% of those with an opinion in the border town of Um el Fahm) want nothing to do with an internationally recognized, independent and sovereign Palestinian Arab "proper" STATE (in ~99% of the territories).

    They don't want their villages/towns/cities swapped.
    (Not that this would even require them to leave their homes.)
    They want to continue living in Israel.

    Arabs in eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods that could be swapped have gone a step further. After rejecting Israeli citizenship for years, now they seek it precisely so that they can leave their homes and move elsewhere within Israel (rather than live in that Palestinian Arab STATE).
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    Dec 02, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
    pouncer saidThe residents of Um al-Fahim knew there was no genuine state in the offing (besides, it's normal for people to stay where the money is).
    In East Jerusalem, most of the Arabs there still reject Israeli citizenship.
    yup but they accpet israel welfare checks. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 02, 2014 11:19 PM GMT
    mwolverine saidAgain the idiotic comparison to Bantustans?
    They covered 14%, were not independent, sovereign or internationally recognized.

    Israeli Arabs (95% of those with an opinion in the border town of Um el Fahm) want nothing to do with an internationally recognized, independent and sovereign Palestinian Arab "proper" STATE (in ~99% of the territories).

    They don't want their villages/towns/cities swapped.
    (Not that this would even require them to leave their homes.)
    They want to continue living in Israel.

    Arabs in eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods that could be swapped have gone a step further. After rejecting Israeli citizenship for years, now they seek it precisely so that they can leave their homes and move elsewhere within Israel (rather than live in that Palestinian Arab STATE).
    northern israel will be part of ANY palestine state, they want a palestine but want israel life style, goverment benefits, druze will remain israeli, they fought hand and hand with jews, beoudins up north the vast majority consider them israeli
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    Dec 03, 2014 5:45 AM GMT
    Bantustans covered 14%, were not independent, sovereign or internationally recognized.

    pp> ?

    Israeli Arabs (95% of those with an opinion in the border town of Um el Fahm) want nothing to do with an internationally recognized, independent and sovereign Palestinian Arab "proper" STATE (in ~99% of the territories).

    They don't want their villages/towns/cities swapped.
    (Not that this would even require them to leave their homes.)
    They want to continue living in Israel.

    pp> The residents of Um al-Fahim knew there was no genuine state in the offing

    Except that is exactly what was being offered. They knew they’d be one heartbeat away from a Hamas coup or worse, a situation like in Syria.

    Realizing that’s BS, he tries again:

    pp> stay where the money is

    Not just the money and standard of living, but political freedom and, well, living.


    Arabs in eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods that could be swapped have gone a step further. After rejecting Israeli citizenship for years, now they seek it precisely so that they can leave their homes and move elsewhere within Israel (rather than live in that Palestinian Arab STATE)

    pp> most of the Arabs there still reject Israeli citizenship

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/more-east-jerusalem-palestinians-seeking-israeli-citizenship-report-shows.premium-1.516906

    This is also currently true in the Golan Heights.
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 03, 2014 4:21 PM GMT
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    mwolverine said[/cite]An Arab Israeli speaks out:



    Transcript also available here:
    http://www.aish.com/jw/me/Calling-for-Palestinian-Forward-Thinking.html

    She is not an "Israeli-Arab". She is a Lebanese-American who is a hardcore Zionist that support Islamophobic

    George Deek, Israel's vice ambassador to Norway, is a "she"?!
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    Dec 03, 2014 4:22 PM GMT
    Bantustans covered 14%, were not independent, sovereign or internationally recognized.

    pp> ?

    Israeli Arabs (95% of those with an opinion in the border town of Um el Fahm) want nothing to do with an internationally recognized, independent and sovereign Palestinian Arab "proper" STATE (in ~99% of the territories).

    They don't want their villages/towns/cities swapped.
    (Not that this would even require them to leave their homes.)
    They want to continue living in Israel.

    They knew they’d be one heartbeat away from a Hamas coup or worse, a situation like in Syria.


    pp> Presuming that they don't elect Hamas...

    Yeah, I'm sure Israeli Arabs fear that, too, and thus prefer to live in Israel than in an independent, sovereign and internationally recognized Palestinian Arab ("proper") state.


    pp> stay where the money is

    Not just the money and standard of living, but political freedom and, well, living.

    pp> ?



    Arabs in eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods that could be swapped have gone a step further. After rejecting Israeli citizenship for years, now they seek it precisely so that they can leave their homes and move elsewhere within Israel (rather than live in that Palestinian Arab STATE)

    pp> most of the Arabs there still reject Israeli citizenship

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/more-east-jerusalem-palestinians-seeking-israeli-citizenship-report-shows.premium-1.516906

    This is also currently true in the Golan Heights.

    pp> "many" ≠ "most"

    Straw man.

    The trend is there. How quickly it picks up depends on whether the peace process will be renewed and, in the Golan, what happens in Syria.
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    pouncer saidc> Except that is exactly what was being offered. They knew they’d be one heartbeat away from a Hamas coup or worse, a situation like in Syria.

    Presuming that they don't elect Hamas...

    As for the Golani Druze, there was some idle speculation during the Syrian civil war that they might not always oppose Israeli citizenship by a margin of > 90%. Except we learn from the same sources:

    || most of these reports seem overstated, given that the phenomenon was limited to about 100 cases last year [2012]

    In other words:

    || We’re not likely to see widespread acceptance of Israeli citizenship among the Golan Druze anytime soon.


    Since when did Israel offer a sovereign, viable Palestinian state on the 1967 border for these residents (one town) to "reject"?

    c> ?


    Not one to spare a thought for facts or consistency, c seems unaware that "many" ≠ "most", and that his article on Jerusalem merely confirms what I said, which is that despite "a well-planned and consistently applied Israeli strategy to pressure the Palestinian population of East Jerusalem" (IPCRI), "the majority have refused citizenship, so are not described as Israeli Arabs" (BBC).
    95% of Druze identify with israeli pouncer! Hundreds are border police protecting us . They fought hand and hand with us during 1948,67,73 war
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    Dec 03, 2014 4:31 PM GMT
    mwolverine saidBantustans covered 14%, were not independent, sovereign or internationally recognized.

    pp> ?

    Israeli Arabs (95% of those with an opinion in the border town of Um el Fahm) want nothing to do with an internationally recognized, independent and sovereign Palestinian Arab "proper" STATE (in ~99% of the territories).

    They don't want their villages/towns/cities swapped.
    (Not that this would even require them to leave their homes.)
    They want to continue living in Israel.

    They knew they’d be one heartbeat away from a Hamas coup or worse, a situation like in Syria.


    pp> Presuming that they don't elect Hamas...

    Yeah, I'm sure Israeli Arabs fear that, too, and thus prefer to live in Israel than in an independent, sovereign and internationally recognized Palestinian Arab ("proper") state.


    pp> stay where the money is

    Not just the money and standard of living, but political freedom and, well, living.

    pp> ?



    Arabs in eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods that could be swapped have gone a step further. After rejecting Israeli citizenship for years, now they seek it precisely so that they can leave their homes and move elsewhere within Israel (rather than live in that Palestinian Arab STATE)

    pp> most of the Arabs there still reject Israeli citizenship

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/more-east-jerusalem-palestinians-seeking-israeli-citizenship-report-shows.premium-1.516906

    This is also currently true in the Golan Heights.

    pp> "many" ≠ "most"

    Straw man.

    The trend is there. How quickly it picks up depends on whether the peace process will be renewed and, in the Golan, what happens in Syria.
    yes most israeli arabs wants to remain israeli , unfortunately in any peace agreement that land will become palestine . Israel must build a wall.
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    Dec 04, 2014 1:42 AM GMT
    pouncer saidc> Yeah, I'm sure Israeli Arabs fear that, too, and thus prefer to live in Israel than in an independent, sovereign and internationally recognized Palestinian Arab ("proper") state.

    What a cretin. I was talking about Israeli Palestinians. Or maybe c didn't know that in his exemplar Arab town of Um al-Fahm, an Islamist supporter of Hamas was elected mayor 3 times in the 1980s and 90s?


    c> The trend is there. How quickly it picks up depends on whether the peace process will be renewed and, in the Golan, what happens in Syria

    ROTFL. The "trend" in the Golan hasn't been recorded below ~ 90%. In Jerusalem, the best you can do is cite an article detailing why a few more Palestinians than in the past might want to Israeli citizenship - as an "insurance policy" against ethnic cleansing (politely called "transfer" by the liberals at Haaretz).
    the virgin voice strikes again , the skinny 6'2 140 gremlin
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    Dec 04, 2014 1:47 AM GMT
    Trust me the vast majority want to stay israeli , do u want me to post 100 articles showing this ? I can gremlin
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    Dec 04, 2014 1:53 AM GMT
    The triangle and east jersulem will be part of palestine and no longer be part of israel . Bibi needs to do what he did to lapid to arabs. They belong in a palestian state and no living off of israeli government program
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    Dec 04, 2014 2:53 AM GMT
    Bantustans covered 14%, were not independent, sovereign or internationally recognized.

    pp> ?

    Israeli Arabs (95% of those with an opinion in the border town of Um el Fahm) want nothing to do with an internationally recognized, independent and sovereign Palestinian Arab "proper" STATE (in ~99% of the territories).

    They don't want their villages/towns/cities swapped.
    (Not that this would even require them to leave their homes.)
    They want to continue living in Israel.

    They knew they’d be one heartbeat away from a Hamas coup or worse, a situation like in Syria.


    pp> Presuming that they don't elect Hamas...

    Yeah, I'm sure Israeli Arabs fear that, too, and thus prefer to live in Israel than in an independent, sovereign and internationally recognized Palestinian Arab ("proper") state.

    pp> I was talking about Israeli Palestinians

    Only about 18% of Israeli Arabs identify primarily as Palestinians.

    pp> maybe c didn't know that in his exemplar Arab town of Um al-Fahm, an Islamist supporter of Hamas was elected mayor 3 times in the 1980s and 90s?

    Of course. The city is also the center of the Islamic Movement. That's why I brought it up. Because despite all that, they're still terrified of being swapped to the PA, wanting to remain... Israeli Arabs.


    pp> stay where the money is

    Not just the money and standard of living, but political freedom and, well, living.

    pp> ?



    Arabs in eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods that could be swapped have gone a step further. After rejecting Israeli citizenship for years, now they seek it precisely so that they can leave their homes and move elsewhere within Israel (rather than live in that Palestinian Arab STATE)

    pp> most of the Arabs there still reject Israeli citizenship

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/more-east-jerusalem-palestinians-seeking-israeli-citizenship-report-shows.premium-1.516906

    This is also currently true in the Golan Heights.

    pp> "many" ≠ "most"

    Straw man.

    The trend is there. How quickly it picks up depends on whether the peace process will be renewed and, in the Golan, what happens in Syria.

    pp> [diversion]

    The long-standing cultural taboo on becoming Israeli citizens has, if not been broken, greatly weakened. As discussed in the article, people now discuss it openly (rather than keeping it a secret) and it's the topic of parlour games.

    We'll see what happens when peace negotiations are back on track.