New HIV diagnoses hit all-time low in New York City

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    Dec 03, 2014 8:39 AM GMT
    New HIV diagnoses hit all-time low in New York City


    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/12/new-hiv-diagnoses-hit-all-time-low-in-new-york-city/
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    Dec 05, 2014 5:21 AM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/03/arizona-pastor-steven-anderson-gay-men-_n_6263720.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

    Well if this guy had his way...
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    Dec 05, 2014 12:54 PM GMT
    Meanwhile in South Florida, we're having high rates of new HIV cases. Despite various independent agencies establishing education, community outreach, and extensive free testing programs. One of the not-for-profits I heavily support gave over $300,000 in 2014 for these purposes in my own Broward County alone, over $1 million in the region, and that's just one of many doing likewise.

    But our State government isn't helping enough. Florida on the State level would like to be as regressive regarding gay and HIV issues as backward States like Tennessee. Fortunately a number of cities & counties are trying to do the right thing, but with limited resources.

    And the results we're seeing here with HIV infection rates reflect the inadequate approach Florida is taking to these issues. It saves money, but costs lives. And serves ideological goals instead of medical ones.
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    Dec 07, 2014 9:45 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidMeanwhile in South Florida, we're having high rates of new HIV cases. Despite various independent agencies establishing education, community outreach, and extensive free testing programs. One of the not-for-profits I heavily support gave over $300,000 in 2014 for these purposes in my own Broward County alone, over $1 million in the region, and that's just one of many doing likewise.

    But our State government isn't helping enough. Florida on the State level would like to be as regressive regarding gay and HIV issues as backward States like Tennessee. Fortunately a number of cities & counties are trying to do the right thing, but with limited resources.

    And the results we're seeing here with HIV infection rates reflect the inadequate approach Florida is taking to these issues. It saves money, but costs lives. And serves ideological goals instead of medical ones.


    More backward than this?:


    "So all this BS about sex being safe with an undetectable poz guy is just medical talk dealing with controlled conditions (Did you think they fucking in a laboratory?). That has no application, bearing or relevance to the real world situations in which you & I actually operate. And such basic medical research shouldn't be misinterpreted to be providing guidance as to how gay men should behave sexually with each other."

    A quote from you. The MOST anti-science position possible!

    Compare THAT to Australia's ACON statement(based on TasP from Dr. Julio Montaner and Dr. Fauci (remember him???):

    ACON statement 2014 http://www.acon.org.au/sites/default/files/What-is-Safe-Sex-Position-2014.pdf

    There are now at least five strategies that reasonably constitute ‘safe sex’,
    provided that certain parameters are met. They are:
    1.
    The use of Condoms during casual encounters between men of unknown or discordantserostatus.
    2.
    HIV negative men taking effective pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP)
    .
    3.
    Men living with HIV who only have sex without condoms when they have a sustained
    undetectable viral load (UVL) and in the absence
    of sexually transmissible infections (STIs)
    .
    4.
    Effective use of serosorting
    between HIV positive men
    .
    5.
    Effective negotiated safety agreements





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    Dec 07, 2014 9:49 AM GMT
    The Bending the Curve three-point program includes:


    Identifying persons with HIV who remain undiagnosed and linking them to health care;

    Linking and retaining persons diagnosed with HIV to health care and getting them on anti-HIV therapy to maximize HIV virus suppression so they remain healthy and prevent further transmission; and

    Providing access to Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis (PrEP) for high-risk persons to keep them HIV negative


    http://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-plan-end-aids-epidemic-new-york-state
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    Dec 07, 2014 2:11 PM GMT
    timmm55 said
    Art_Deco saidMeanwhile in South Florida, we're having high rates of new HIV cases. Despite various independent agencies establishing education, community outreach, and extensive free testing programs. One of the not-for-profits I heavily support gave over $300,000 in 2014 for these purposes in my own Broward County alone, over $1 million in the region, and that's just one of many doing likewise.

    But our State government isn't helping enough. Florida on the State level would like to be as regressive regarding gay and HIV issues as backward States like Tennessee. Fortunately a number of cities & counties are trying to do the right thing, but with limited resources.

    And the results we're seeing here with HIV infection rates reflect the inadequate approach Florida is taking to these issues. It saves money, but costs lives. And serves ideological goals instead of medical ones.


    More backward than this?:


    "So all this BS about sex being safe with an undetectable poz guy is just medical talk dealing with controlled conditions (Did you think they fucking in a laboratory?). That has no application, bearing or relevance to the real world situations in which you & I actually operate. And such basic medical research shouldn't be misinterpreted to be providing guidance as to how gay men should behave sexually with each other."

    A quote from you. The MOST anti-science position possible!

    Everyone here knows by now all you do is advocate barebacking for your own selfish agenda, and then try to justify your absurd positions with bad information.

    My position as quoted above (minus your green comment) is based on sound scientific principles. You have been referencing basic medical studies for months now, that have yet to be fully researched in real-world sexual encounters between HIV positive and negative individuals. Read up on what "basic research" means, versus field studies & trials.

    Furthermore, I stress again that people who misrepresent their HIV status remain a risk to the uninfected. Even if all that you're claiming about the safety of undetectable viral loads is true (which it's not), you still haven't told us how guys can protect themselves against sexual partners who LIE about their viral load. But here's a hint: I don't think the answer is barebacking on faith & trust.

    And THAT'S an example of a genuine scientific approach to this issue. And when I wrote about ideological goals superseding medical ones, I wasn't just referring to politicians. But also to misinformed people like yourself, for whom the phrase "A little knowledge can be dangerous" was invented.

    Combined with your fundamental misunderstanding of these basic medical findings, in trying to apply them to real-world sexual relations, along with your personal agenda in undermining safe sex practices, you are perhaps the most reckless and irresponsible person on RJ. I and others here are going to continue to dispute your bad information, before it results in spreading more HIV, at least here among RJ members.
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    Dec 07, 2014 11:35 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    timmm55 said
    Art_Deco saidMeanwhile in South Florida, we're having high rates of new HIV cases. Despite various independent agencies establishing education, community outreach, and extensive free testing programs. One of the not-for-profits I heavily support gave over $300,000 in 2014 for these purposes in my own Broward County alone, over $1 million in the region, and that's just one of many doing likewise.

    But our State government isn't helping enough. Florida on the State level would like to be as regressive regarding gay and HIV issues as backward States like Tennessee. Fortunately a number of cities & counties are trying to do the right thing, but with limited resources.

    And the results we're seeing here with HIV infection rates reflect the inadequate approach Florida is taking to these issues. It saves money, but costs lives. And serves ideological goals instead of medical ones.


    More backward than this?:


    "So all this BS about sex being safe with an undetectable poz guy is just medical talk dealing with controlled conditions (Did you think they fucking in a laboratory?). That has no application, bearing or relevance to the real world situations in which you & I actually operate. And such basic medical research shouldn't be misinterpreted to be providing guidance as to how gay men should behave sexually with each other."

    A quote from you. The MOST anti-science position possible!

    Everyone here knows (WHO? The Art Deco FAN CLUB? If science were a popularity contest Copernicus wouldn't have died in prison). by now all you do is advocate barebacking for your own selfish agenda, and then try to justify your absurd positions with bad information.

    [color=indigo]It's called condomless sex now. "BB Agenda" is a stigmatizing term.
    BTW I serosort POZ/POZ-U/PrEP on occasion. [/color]

    My position as quoted above (minus your green comment) is based on sound scientific principles. (No proof? No any? Where is it?) You have been referencing basic medical studies for months now (you say, and idiots agree, therefore it must be right?), that have yet to be fully researched in real-world sexual encounters between HIV positive and negative individuals. Read up on what "basic research" means, versus field studies & trials. (You don't know shit about trials, you tried that BS earlier with research papers and who reviews them.)

    Furthermore, I stress again that people who misrepresent their HIV status remain a risk to the uninfected. (TRUE!) Even if all that you're claiming about the safety of undetectable viral loads is true (which it's not)(It is, but uou can't prove you are right), you still haven't told us how guys can protect themselves against sexual partners who LIE about their viral load. But here's a hint: I don't think the answer is barebacking on faith & trust.
    You didn't read CDC or ACON did you? If you did you'd know that isn't true.

    And THAT'S an example of a genuine scientific approach to this issue.(Not ONE piece of science!) And when I wrote about ideological goals superseding medical ones, I wasn't just referring to politicians. But also to misinformed people like yourself, for whom the phrase "A little knowledge can be dangerous" was invented. You don't know anything more than 20 years ago. More dangerous because everything since then is over your head. And you drag everyone down with you.

    Combined with your fundamental misunderstanding of these basic medical findings (didn't you just argue against "basic" medical findings?) , in trying to apply them to real-world sexual relations, along with your personal agenda in undermining safe sex practices, you are perhaps the most reckless and irresponsible person on RJ. I and others (go ahead, you are wrong already. It's just a matter of time.) here are going to continue to dispute your bad information, before it results in spreading more HIV, at least here among RJ members.


    Of course your insistence that POZ and Undetectable people are liars, are out to infect Neg "innocents", and they refuse to use a condom....all lies.....and are stigmatizing.

    What does this do for your "followers"? it puts them at an increased risk. They certainly wouldn't date someone who is POZ, they are tainted. Certainly not date someone who is Undetectable because, according to you they are inherently liars (even though the least likely to acquire HIV from)....so we are left with the Negatives. Who, by their honest virtue are what they say. And they are the most honest to you, since everyone else POZ is out to get them! You've made a very special case of anti-POZ demonetization.

    Oh, you've made a couple of comments of "you can't trust an undetectable anymore than someone who says they are negative...." But it's clear the POZ guy is inherently dangerous. No matter how you look at it you've evicted 350,000 non-HIV transmitting people from your pool. And 1,000,000 who are honest about being POZ. What does that leave in you "pool"? People who are Negative. And people who say they are Negative. And VERY virulent at that, with an untested and unrestrained viral load in the 100s of thousands. That's a dangerous mix. And always has been. Collectively that INCREASES the chance of getting HIV.....get it? Or is that hard to comprehend?