Cary Grant & Randolph Scott

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    Dec 07, 2014 5:31 AM GMT
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    Dec 07, 2014 3:45 PM GMT
    Cary Grant was originally from Bristol (UK) and regularly returned there, particularly after he became a director and brand ambassador for Faberge in 1966 and had access to the company's private jet.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-29522987
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    Dec 07, 2014 4:20 PM GMT
    I'm interested in the vocals dubbed to this video. Is it Julie London? Anyone?
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    Dec 07, 2014 4:35 PM GMT
    Yes

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    Dec 07, 2014 4:37 PM GMT
    awesome! thanks for sharing
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    Dec 07, 2014 6:14 PM GMT
    This is an old story, that credible Hollywood insiders from the 1930s who knew both men, many of them gay themselves, have confirmed over the years. Yet his 4th wife, Dyan Cannon, and his daughter, both strongly deny Grant was anything but completely straight.

    I'm inclined to believe there was an intimate relationship between Grant and Scott, but covered-up as required in the Hollywood of the 1930s, to include entering into straight marriages. By the 1940s they were spending less & less time together, although people report seeing them sometimes meeting in restaurants, and taking back tables, where they were glimpsed holding hands, even into their 70s.
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    Dec 07, 2014 7:46 PM GMT
    Wow! I'd never seen many of those photographs of them together before.

    These two men caught my eye when I was a kid even and were totally hot (to me at least) all their lives but particularly in their late 20-and 30's. Both were very classy guys. Wealthy too. RS was a shrewd investor.

    Their relationship was a bit of an open secret and they lived in a beach house together in the 30's. The studios made up "beard" photo sessions to feed to the media/public but they were single (free of wives) and together up into the war. CG was married (to women) several times through out his life and his bisexuality or his frustrating retreat back into the closet might explain the turn over. He came to Hollywood from the Vaudeville stage originally as an acrobat and was perceived to be bi even back then.

    RS son wrote a book about his dad NOT being gay(??!!). Go figure. He inherited very well.
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    Dec 07, 2014 8:11 PM GMT
    Kev1962 saidWow! I'd never seen many of those photographs of them together before.

    As we say nowadays about gays, they make a nice couple. One couldn't imagine Cary Grant having anything less than a Randolph Scott, and vice versa.

    Some of those photographs, which have been circulating for many years, show a spark in the eyes that I think goes beyond mere publicity posing. In fact, I wonder if they go TOO far, even for that time period, when male bonding was in many ways less inhibited and guilt-ridden than it is today.

    Many of those pics, including the residential interiors, the pool shots and the ones on the beach, where taken at their joint Malibu house. All part of a studio-prompted Hollywood magazine piece on them called "Batching It".

    It implied this was their bachelor pad, where women entered by a revolving door. And indeed, the studio made sure lots of women went there, to be seen coming & going by fan magazine photographers, the 1930s version of the Hollywood paparazzi.

    A bit of preemptive damage control, for valuable studio properties. The tragic fall of William (Billy) Haines, a major silent and early talkies star, to the scandal of him being gay, was still fresh in everyone's minds. I recommend a bio of him, "Wisecracker: The Life and Times of William Haines, Hollywood's First Openly Gay Star" by William J. Mann. There are also some references to Grant & Scott in it, too, and about much of the underground Hollywood gay scene of that era.
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    Dec 07, 2014 11:29 PM GMT
    For the time-sensitive and YouTube-impaired...

    Over a year ago (here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3097731) I posted these studio publicity shots pictures of that duo:

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    Dec 08, 2014 7:31 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said... By the 1940s they were spending less & less time together, although people report seeing them sometimes meeting in restaurants, and taking back tables, where they were glimpsed holding hands, even into their 70s.


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    Dec 08, 2014 10:31 PM GMT
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    Norma Talmadge Beach House. Cary Grant and Randolph Scott's 'bachelor pad'.

    The house was built by silent screen star Norma Talmadge in 1929. Norman-style home designed by architect Paul Roe Crawley . Sold to Cary Grant in 1939. He and Randolph Scott resided in the home until Cary's marriage to Woolworth heiress, Barbara Hutton in 1942. Scott sold the house in 1946. Other famous occupants were Howard Hughes, Irving Berlin and Grace Kelly.

    1038 Palisades Beach Rd was also home to Merle Oberon from the mid 1930s to 1939. Also, David Niven lived here with Merle for a time when they were an item in the 1930s. Merle was residing here when she filmed "Wuthering Heights" between December 1938-March 1939.

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    Dec 09, 2014 12:23 AM GMT
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    Norma Talmadge Beach House. Cary Grant and Randolph Scott's 'bachelor pad'.

    I think most of the studio publicity stills were shot there.

    Check out the frigate carved into the fireplace mantel!

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    The pool shots I'm not so sure, maybe those were taken at the Beverly Hills Hotel?
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    Dec 09, 2014 12:29 AM GMT
    Something I read: Randolph Scott later married twice. The second union was apparently successful; it lasted 43 years. Apparently Mrs. Scott knew the backstory, seemed to have no issue with it, and said Cary was a "great guy."
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    Dec 09, 2014 2:30 AM GMT
    eagermuscle said

    The pool shots I'm not so sure, maybe those were taken at the Beverly Hills Hotel?



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    The house had (and has still) a tennis court and pool. Google has a better picture & I can't post it here. But Google it and check it out. Nice property, even though it is surrounded by public parking lots.

    1038 Palisades Beach Road, Santa Monica, CA