DEMOCRATS IN CHARGE: With both houses of congress and the presidency in the democrats hands, what do you expect will be accomplished... or reversed from current policy?

  • HndsmKansan

    Posts: 16311

    Jan 19, 2009 12:57 AM GMT
    The democrats and Obama will move quickly to reverse some of the unfortunate Bush policies (if only wars were so easy). What do you think will be some of the first to get shifted or accomplished in the near term?

    I think stem cell research and alternative energy will both see a total change in focus.
  • gjoseph

    Posts: 250

    Jan 19, 2009 2:43 AM GMT
    I see a positive difference with our nation's economy, education, and health-care. I also believe around 2011 we will see more gay rights which will pave the way to civil unions/marriage.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 3:35 AM GMT
    Lots of changes likely.

    Financed with money we don't have even more likely.


  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 4:12 AM GMT
    Don't count your Democratic eggs before they're hatched. The Repubs may still be able to mount filibusters in the Senate, which would stop Obama in his tracks. That's one reason they're dragging out the Franken recount in Minnesota, though it's likely a lost cause for Repub Senator Coleman. They want to deny Obama the traditional 100-day "honeymoon" with Congress that most new Presidents get.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 4:14 AM GMT
    I'm hoping to see a science boom on all fronts.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 4:17 AM GMT
    Well it appears that the economy will get a big shot in the arm with cash!! (guess the Gov. will use their power to print money, if they don't, who the hell will loan us anymore after all that was barrowed for the war? LOL !!) I certainly don't know of a better solution though. >>>>>>>>>>>> Stem cell research will be one of the first, Guantonamo will be closing ( could actually take a year or so to accomplish, but he'll sign the order right away), I think he'll denounce torture (enhanced interrogations) and reiterate our commitment to treaties, and conventions, international law. and he'll get things going right away in cooperation with world efforts to slow global warming. He's probably got a list of things that he needs to do right away to undo bush damages from executive orders. I DO NOT ENVY OBAMA'S MONUMENTOUS TASK IN FOLLOWING THE BUSH ACT
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 4:55 AM GMT
    1. Repeal of DADT
    2. Fewer filibusters and bottlenecks in Congress
    3. A more positive/progressive administration
    4. A lot of benign bellyaching from the Rep. minority
    5. A slow, but definite, economic recovery
    6. Less cow-towing to big oil (but other special interests will likely take their place at the trough)
    7. Improved relations with our allies
    8. An end to the Iraq occupation (with an increase in troops in Afghanistan)
    9. Cautiously optimistic that pro-civil rights policies (esp. related to FISA) will be reinstated or implemented
    10. An even bigger deficit
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 5:18 AM GMT
    My main wishes for Obama would be to dismantle the Department Of Homeland Security, repeal the Patriot Act, make the Constitution relevant again, and restore the civil liberties that were taken away from us during the Bush regime.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 5:25 AM GMT
    xrichx saidMy main wishes for Obama would be to dismantle the Department Of Homeland Security, repeal the Patriot Act, make the Constitution relevant again, and restore the civil liberties that were taken away from us during the Bush regime.


    A-men - you said it way better than I did. icon_cool.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 7:09 AM GMT
    First, I hope he, along with his cabinet, can really do the creation of the 3.5 million jobs that will come with the infrastructure, energy revamp and even now, more govt job openings. Short term--the extension of unemployment benefits, a way to make community college free, close quantanimo (sp?)-why do we have a military installation in Cuba anyway? Get out of Iraq, get Afghnistan under control, reset our image and place in the world, and the following for the gay community-

    HRC's Blueprint for Positive Change, the top five things your administration can do to promote LGBT equality:

    -- Issue an Executive Order within the first 100 days that reaffirms protections for federal workers based on sexual orientation and expands them to also include gender identity;

    -- Work with Congress to sign Hate Crimes legislation into law within 6 months;

    -- Support only a fully inclusive Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA);

    -- In the first 100 days develop a plan to begin the process of eliminating the failed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy; and

    -- Work with Congress to end unequal tax treatment of domestic partner benefits.
  • GQjock

    Posts: 11649

    Jan 19, 2009 10:51 AM GMT
    Dismantle every Friggin' Policy that was brought upon us by the last administration
  • HndsmKansan

    Posts: 16311

    Jan 19, 2009 1:33 PM GMT
    Trance24 saidLots of changes likely.

    Financed with money we don't have even more likely.





    I'm talking about a different course of action... we've already had that for 8 years.
  • CuriousJockAZ

    Posts: 19138

    Jan 19, 2009 2:10 PM GMT
    I think many of you will be surprised when not all that much changes. Obama probably has a real rude awakening facing him, if he hasn't already, once he begins learning things that only the President and his cabinet are privy too. I truly believe that very real dangers lurk out there that the average American has no idea about.

    As for the economy making a turnaround...Obviously that will happen sooner or later. If it happens sooner, at least SOME credit should go to President Bush -- of course that will NEVER happen -- and the swift actions he and his administration took to shore things up in the waning months of his Presidency.

    All in all, suffice to say, Obama will be faced with many challenges and he will surely make his share of mistakes along the way like any President. I expect, and hope, he has many successes, and a hugely effective and successful Presidency that equals the historic nature of it. However, those expecting a miracle worker will be disappointed. At the end of the day, Obama is just one man and he is only human.
  • Timbales

    Posts: 13993

    Jan 19, 2009 2:13 PM GMT
    I have no expectations.
  • rnch

    Posts: 11525

    Jan 19, 2009 2:13 PM GMT
    i am hoping for a swift and total reverse of dubja's moronic refusal to embrase cell stem research.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 2:47 PM GMT
    Whatever happened to space exploration? icon_sad.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 2:59 PM GMT
    Tax and spend.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 3:41 PM GMT
    Luckydog76 saidTax and spend.

    As compared to Bush's spend, spend, spend and don't tax, so that we become the greatest debtor nation on Earth, crippled with a burden of 8 TRILLION dollars that is helping to strangle the economy. Yeah, I much preferred that... icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 3:47 PM GMT
    I have a giant laundry list of things I hope he takes care of in his first term. But since this is a fitness site, I will just right about nutrition policy.

    We spend over $180 Billion a year in farm subsidies. 2/3 of that money goes to giant agro corporations. We pay that money out to growers of corn and soy. Corn gets turned into high fructose corn syrup and cattle feed, ensuring that we have plenty of soda and plenty of cheap burgers. Soy gets turned into everything else. These are huge farms dependent on petroleum based fertilizers and pesticides. The carbon footprint of a tomato grown in New Jersey is sometimes greater than a kiwi in New Zealand, which includes transit to your local market.

    I hope we spend those billions in a smarter way. Shifting funding to local, smaller farms to a diversity of crops. That will lessen the need for fertilizer, pesticides, and trucking while shifting the price of corn-sugar and beef. Perhaps people wont drink soda as much if it isn't the same price as water.
  • Timbales

    Posts: 13993

    Jan 19, 2009 3:53 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidI have a giant laundry list of things I hope he takes care of in his first term. But since this is a fitness site, I will just right about nutrition policy.

    We spend over $180 Billion a year in farm subsidies. 2/3 of that money goes to giant agro corporations. We pay that money out to growers of corn and soy. Corn gets turned into high fructose corn syrup and cattle feed, ensuring that we have plenty of soda and plenty of cheap burgers. Soy gets turned into everything else. These are huge farms dependent on petroleum based fertilizers and pesticides. The carbon footprint of a tomato grown in New Jersey is sometimes greater than a kiwi in New Zealand, which includes transit to your local market.

    I hope we spend those billions in a smarter way. Shifting funding to local, smaller farms to a diversity of crops. That will lessen the need for fertilizer, pesticides, and trucking while shifting the price of corn-sugar and beef. Perhaps people wont drink soda as much if it isn't the same price as water.


    That's a very thoughtful post.

    I think it feeds into a major issue with our economy. For the past 60+ years, our economy has been focused on the illusion of spending to earn. We have transitioned away from producing locally any of the items used in our daily lives. Everything is cheap, foreign and disposable.

    If you went back to as little as 100 years ago, you would see people using everything until it could no longer be used. A shirt that couldn't be mended would become part of a quilt, or a rug, or used as a rag. Now we are fine with another country being polluted with toxic chemicals and species being killed off so we can buy one for $9.99 at WalMart.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 4:01 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said
    I'm talking about a different course of action... we've already had that for 8 years.


    The difference is Obama will try and bring real improvements rather than waste money.

    Example: A real reduction in unplanned teen pregnancies with proper sex education rather than just teaching abstinence.

    In 4-8 years we'll see plenty done along with plenty more debt to finance it all. Nothings going to change on that front. You can't have universal healthcare, government bailouts, and massive transportation and energy overhauls and not add to the growing debt.
  • Koaa2

    Posts: 1556

    Jan 19, 2009 4:12 PM GMT
    I want the whole last 8 years reversed!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 19, 2009 4:15 PM GMT
    Timberoo said
    MunchingZombie saidI have a giant laundry list of things I hope he takes care of in his first term. But since this is a fitness site, I will just right about nutrition policy.

    We spend over $180 Billion a year in farm subsidies. 2/3 of that money goes to giant agro corporations. We pay that money out to growers of corn and soy. Corn gets turned into high fructose corn syrup and cattle feed, ensuring that we have plenty of soda and plenty of cheap burgers. Soy gets turned into everything else. These are huge farms dependent on petroleum based fertilizers and pesticides. The carbon footprint of a tomato grown in New Jersey is sometimes greater than a kiwi in New Zealand, which includes transit to your local market.

    I hope we spend those billions in a smarter way. Shifting funding to local, smaller farms to a diversity of crops. That will lessen the need for fertilizer, pesticides, and trucking while shifting the price of corn-sugar and beef. Perhaps people wont drink soda as much if it isn't the same price as water.


    That's a very thoughtful post.

    I think it feeds into a major issue with our economy. For the past 60+ years, our economy has been focused on the illusion of spending to earn. We have transitioned away from producing locally any of the items used in our daily lives. Everything is cheap, foreign and disposable.

    If you went back to as little as 100 years ago, you would see people using everything until it could no longer be used. A shirt that couldn't be mended would become part of a quilt, or a rug, or used as a rag. Now we are fine with another country being polluted with toxic chemicals and species being killed off so we can buy one for $9.99 at WalMart.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DAMN !!!!!! I THINK BOTH OF YOU GUYS HIT ON GREAT POINTS !!!!! Timbaroo !!!! going back to conservation pratices of the past as you describe makes a lot of sense, doing so would be a win/win situation for everyone.
  • HndsmKansan

    Posts: 16311

    Jan 19, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI think many of you will be surprised when not all that much changes. Obama probably has a real rude awakening facing him

    As for the economy making a turnaround...Obviously that will happen sooner or later. If it happens sooner, at least SOME credit should go to President Bush -- of course that will NEVER happen -- and the swift actions he and his administration took to shore things up in the waning months of his Presidency.

    All in all, suffice to say, Obama will be faced with many challenges and he will surely make his share of mistakes along the way like any President. I expect, and hope, he has many successes, and a hugely effective and successful Presidency that equals the historic nature of it. However, those expecting a miracle worker will be disappointed. At the end of the day, Obama is just one man and he is only human.



    Well Todd, I'm in total disagreement of your political commentary. The only point you make that I might agree with is your assessment of the length of time necessary to make an economic recovery.

    My question wasn't the difference Obama will make (which I think will be substantial), but the democrats in general. I think a goodly amount of legislation will be passed (and signed) by the democrats. Much will be done.

    As far as your comments about Bush, I would expect you and other die hards to make those comments... and probably will 5 years from now.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 20, 2009 5:45 AM GMT
    I hope he will do well. It will be interesting to see which side of the "fence" he falls to.
    (And I don't mean Rep. vs. Dem.)
    His recent trip to Europe was paid for by Bushies and "that sort or group" to introduce him to the people "they had been working with". I'm sure lots of attractive apples were dangled in front of him to keep some of the less than stellar activities going.
    NOW it will be up to O'Bama to decide what he wants to do with that. Will he do the right thing? Or will he follow the status quo that has been going on with some key players for the last eight years in some rather shady business. It's really his call now...and I hope he will do the right thing.
    But we shall see.
    People back East have told me they are hoping that with his younger age and some of his better ideals, they may be able to work with him to do the better thing...but they are still watching at this point to see if they can work with him or not. So people are hopeful. We'll just have to see...and it won't take long to get the indicators as to which side of things he will operate on.