Catholic Bishops: Obama's 'Gender Identity' Order Is Anti-Church

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    Dec 09, 2014 4:34 PM GMT
    What the fuck part of separation of church and state do they not understand? The OCD of religion, control everyone icon_rolleyes.gif


    http://www.newsmax.com/US/bishops-Catholics-gender-identity-workplace/2014/12/09/id/611939/

    The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops is criticizing steps taken by the Department of Labor to enforce a presidential executive order that forbids federal contractors and subcontractors from discriminating "on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity," CNS News reported.

    The bishops issued a statement asserting that while they oppose "unjust discrimination" against gays, adhering to the order would force Catholics to violate the teachings of their Church.



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    Dec 09, 2014 5:29 PM GMT
    scruffLA saidWhat the fuck part of separation of church and state do they not understand? The OCD of religion, control everyone icon_rolleyes.gif


    http://www.newsmax.com/US/bishops-Catholics-gender-identity-workplace/2014/12/09/id/611939/

    The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops is criticizing steps taken by the Department of Labor to enforce a presidential executive order that forbids federal contractors and subcontractors from discriminating "on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity," CNS News reported.

    The bishops issued a statement asserting that while they oppose "unjust discrimination" against gays, adhering to the order would force Catholics to violate the teachings of their Church.





    Bishops, just remember "render onto Caesar (I.e. The secular government) those things that are Caesars'..." and butt out. It says so in your instruction amanual for your religion, after all....
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    Dec 09, 2014 6:26 PM GMT

    Oh, that's right, I forgot, we are communists icon_rolleyes.gif


    Rick Santorum: Separation Of Church And State A Communist Idea, Not An American One
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  • tazzari

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    Dec 09, 2014 9:48 PM GMT
    These people do not speak for all Christians, or even all Catholics. And they drive more people away every time they open their mouths and spew this kind of un-Christian garbage.
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    Dec 09, 2014 10:28 PM GMT
    The US Constitution as explained clearly by Founding Father Thomas Jefferson instructs that we don't have to give a rat's ass about their bible.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States
    ...the phrase "separation of church and state" in this context is generally traced to a January 1, 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper....

    ...Jefferson wrote, "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State...


    But their bible instructs them to obey our Constitution.

    http://www.openbible.info/topics/obeying_the_law
    Romans 13:1-5
    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment....


    So I think we win that one.
  • FRE0

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    Dec 10, 2014 11:08 PM GMT
    The position of the Roman Church on the relationship of church and state was established quite early. It's position is that, as the (presumed) vicar of Christ, the Bishop of Rome, commonly known as the pope, has been given all authority on earth, both religious and secular. Thus, there is no recognition of the principle of separation of church and state. Or course the Bishop of Rome is unable to exercise that degree of authority which is certainly fortunate.
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    Dec 10, 2014 11:11 PM GMT
    theantijock saidThe US Constitution as explained clearly by Founding Father Thomas Jefferson instructs that we don't have to give a rat's ass about their bible.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States
    ...the phrase "separation of church and state" in this context is generally traced to a January 1, 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper....

    ...Jefferson wrote, "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State...


    But their bible instructs them to obey our Constitution.

    http://www.openbible.info/topics/obeying_the_law
    Romans 13:1-5
    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment....


    So I think we win that one.


    Yes, I agree that we win that one, but the official position of the Roman Church, which is seldom explicitly stated, is very different.