Gaylard Williams, Anti-Gay pastor at the Praise Cathedral Church of God in Seymour, Indiana Accused of Grabbing Man's Genitals, Soliciting Oral Sex

  • metta

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    Dec 19, 2014 2:23 AM GMT
    INDIANA ANTI-GAY CHURCH PASTOR ACCUSED OF GRABBING MAN'S GENITALS, SOLICITING ORAL SEX: VIDEO



    http://www.towleroad.com/2014/12/gaylard.html?onswipe_redirect=never
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    Dec 19, 2014 2:56 AM GMT
    Typical...
  • jeepguySD

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    Dec 19, 2014 1:02 PM GMT
    "We will engage in those activities which glorify God in our body and which avoid the fulfillment of the lust of the flesh."

    First, in the context of the quote above, I really don't understand why there are so many hang ups about sex. It is so unhealthy.

    Second, I would really like to see a serious, scientifically rigorous, study about the prevalence of cases like this in which the most virulently anti-gay individuals turn out to be closet cases. Many in the gay community assume that those who are most vocally anti-gay are over compensating for their own internal conflict. I wonder how much truth there is in that?

    "The lady doth protest too much?"
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    Dec 19, 2014 2:19 PM GMT
    jeepguySD said
    ...Second, I would really like to see a serious, scientifically rigorous, study about the prevalence of cases like this in which the most virulently anti-gay individuals turn out to be closet cases. Many in the gay community assume that those who are most vocally anti-gay are over compensating for their own internal conflict. I wonder how much truth there is in that.

    Well, we certainly see regular concrete examples of these homophobic closet cases, so it isn't imaginary on our part. But as you suggest, there should be some kind of study, or at least tracking of these virulent gay haters, to get a clearer understanding of their extent, and develop better ways to identify them early. And then to expose and publicize what appears to be a common pattern, to reduce as early as possible the demented damage they attempt to inflict.
  • metta

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    Dec 19, 2014 4:23 PM GMT
    jeepguySD said

    Second, I would really like to see a serious, scientifically rigorous, study about the prevalence of cases like this in which the most virulently anti-gay individuals turn out to be closet cases. Many in the gay community assume that those who are most vocally anti-gay are over compensating for their own internal conflict. I wonder how much truth there is in that.

    "The lady doth protest too much?"


    Like this one?

    Study: Homophobes May Be Hidden Homosexuals
    http://www.livescience.com/19563-homophobia-hidden-homosexuals.html
  • tazzari

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    Dec 19, 2014 6:34 PM GMT
    Color me astonished.
  • jeepguySD

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    Dec 19, 2014 9:45 PM GMT
    metta8 said
    jeepguySD said

    Second, I would really like to see a serious, scientifically rigorous, study about the prevalence of cases like this in which the most virulently anti-gay individuals turn out to be closet cases. Many in the gay community assume that those who are most vocally anti-gay are over compensating for their own internal conflict. I wonder how much truth there is in that.

    "The lady doth protest too much?"


    Like this one?

    Study: Homophobes May Be Hidden Homosexuals
    http://www.livescience.com/19563-homophobia-hidden-homosexuals.html


    Thanks, Metta8. I wish I had the expertise to better evaluate the techniques used in the studies, but at face value the results seem fairly solid. It was very interesting to read. I also noted that the Scottish Play was invoked in the article too: "Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they are fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth protest too much,'" Ryan told LiveScience"
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    Dec 19, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
    This is what happens when you name yer kid "Gaylard."
  • hebrewman

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    Dec 20, 2014 10:35 AM GMT
    hhhhhaaaaaa haaaaaaahhhhhaaaaa neeener neener. i am not surprised in the least. take that right wingers.
  • DanOmatic

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    Dec 20, 2014 6:12 PM GMT
    Seymour, Indiana is a fucked up place, but typical of many small Midwestern towns. Its inhabitants are either hardcore churchy types or meth heads. Wal-mart has essentially decimated the town's local businesses, and everyone weighs 300 lbs.
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    Dec 20, 2014 9:30 PM GMT
    ^ I think that Wal-Mart has probably done way more to damage American businesses and it's economy than that dangerous buffoon in North Korea has.
  • KissTheSky

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    Dec 20, 2014 9:36 PM GMT
    When I hear conservatives and Republican bigots ranting about how much they hate gay people, I just assume they are repressed queens with mental problems. Genuinely straight men do not sit around thinking about gay sex all the time.
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    Dec 20, 2014 10:27 PM GMT
    Dude's name is "Gaylard?" Talk about low-hanging fruit.
  • hebrewman

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    Dec 21, 2014 9:56 AM GMT
    DanOmatic saidSeymour, Indiana is a fucked up place, but typical of many small Midwestern towns. Its inhabitants are either hardcore churchy types or meth heads. Wal-mart has essentially decimated the town's local businesses, and everyone weighs 300 lbs.


    ahhhhh. so it's located in what we airline personnel call
    ''FLYOVER AMERICA''. i wonder how many closet cases live there. as for the weight, i bet the walmart there has way too many power assisted wheel chair carts. sad. really sad.
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    Dec 21, 2014 1:47 PM GMT
    bon_pan saidThis is what happens when you name yer kid "Gaylard."

    That's nothing - the same parents named their other son "Fagfat".
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    Dec 21, 2014 1:59 PM GMT
    HEBREWMAN said
    ...i bet the walmart there has way too many power assisted wheel chair carts. sad. really sad.

    And the practice by overweight people of using them that has twice denied my husband their use after he was released from the hospital following surgery (hip replacement and heart bypass). That's one of my pet peeves, especially in supermarkets.

    Their fat asses are wider than the carts, drooping off the seats like sacks of loose potatoes. Yet they don't have handicapped car parking permits, as my husband & I do, so they'll park the cart in the lobby and walk clear across the parking lot to their car that's in a regular space. Or will drive the cart to their car and just leave the thing there to block other drivers' doors, and for an employee to retrieve. icon_mad.gif

    I almost wish stores didn't provide the damn things. Or else issue a key at the customer service desk, after suitable proof is presented of a legal handicap. Yet in all fairness I have seen them used properly, for instance by leg amputees. I just hope no amputee is ever denied one because a lazy, fat-ass porker is running around playing bumper cars.
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    Dec 21, 2014 5:20 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
    HEBREWMAN said
    ...i bet the walmart there has way too many power assisted wheel chair carts. sad. really sad.

    And the practice by overweight people of using them that has twice denied my husband their use after he was released from the hospital following surgery (hip replacement and heart bypass). That's one of my pet peeves, especially in supermarkets.

    Their fat asses are wider than the carts, drooping off the seats like sacks of loose potatoes. Yet they don't have handicapped car parking permits, as my husband & I do, so they'll park the cart in the lobby and walk clear across the parking lot to their car that's in a regular space. Or will drive the cart to their car and just leave the thing there to block other drivers' doors, and for an employee to retrieve. icon_mad.gif

    I almost wish stores didn't provide the damn things. Or else issue a key at the customer service desk, after suitable proof is presented of a legal handicap. Yet in all fairness I have seen them used properly, by leg amputees. I just hope no amputee is ever denied one because a lazy, fat-ass porker is running around playing bumper cars.

    Says the person who has been "overweight" (per your profile) on here for years - even BEFORE your prostate cancer treatment (which you are blaming on your current porky proclivities).

    You're slipping - usually your gratuitous personal attacks on me are better focused and have more teeth.

    The issue raised was morbidly obese people who ride around in electric shopping carts because they're too lazy to walk, although they can. And who don't have an officially recognized mobility handicap.

    I am admittedly overweight, but losing it. Not obese, and I don't use electric carts for my convenience, while the more seriously handicapped must wait or go without. Although I would in fact be eligible for cart use, since I limp heavily with a cane, and I've already qualified for a handicapped car parking permit for the last 12 years in 2 different states due to severe, doctor-certified mobility limitations.

    And BTW, I never blamed my prostate cancer ON porky proclivities. I correctly blamed the cancer FOR my additional weight gain. When a man has all the testosterone deliberately removed from his body as part of his treatment (effectively a chemical castration with Lupron injections) he will lose muscle mass and gain fat, to some extent a eunuch's build. But I appreciate your typical misrepresentation and insensitivity to a serious health issue I faced.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Dec 21, 2014 7:35 PM GMT
    Such a familiar ring. I guess he could arrange a video presentation to parishioners at his church, bawling and could say, "I have sinned" and ask for forgiveness... or get lessons from Republican Craig from Idaho and just resorting to bathroom stalls.

    Pathetic...

    I wonder what he wants for Christmas?
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    Dec 21, 2014 7:35 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco saidI am admittedly overweight, but losing it.


    Many here would say you lost it years ago. icon_wink.gif




    Now it's the holiday season, lets be nice!

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    Dec 21, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidSuch a familiar ring. I guess he could arrange a video presentation to parishioners at his church, bawling and could say, "I have sinned" and ask for forgiveness... or get lessons from Republican Craig from Idaho and just resorting to bathroom stalls.

    Pathetic...

    I wonder what he wants for Christmas?

    His own private lake, where he can molest men in peace without fear of the police in turn molesting him?

    Because I'm sure like Larry Craig he'll claim the accusations are false, his word against the guy in the car. Who misunderstood his innocent intentions, with the police intruding and overreacting without adequate proof of a crime.

    Just as Craig's playing footsie wasn't what it seemed, playing ballsy with this car guy by the lake was taken completely out of context and misrepresented. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • FRE0

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    Dec 21, 2014 9:11 PM GMT
    HEBREWMAN said
    DanOmatic saidSeymour, Indiana is a fucked up place, but typical of many small Midwestern towns. Its inhabitants are either hardcore churchy types or meth heads. Wal-mart has essentially decimated the town's local businesses, and everyone weighs 300 lbs.


    ahhhhh. so it's located in what we airline personnel call
    ''FLYOVER AMERICA''. i wonder how many closet cases live there. as for the weight, i bet the walmart there has way too many power assisted wheel chair carts. sad. really sad.


    Power assisted steering has also contributed to obesity.
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    Dec 21, 2014 9:17 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    HEBREWMAN said
    ...i bet the walmart there has way too many power assisted wheel chair carts. sad. really sad.

    And the practice by overweight people of using them that has twice denied my husband their use after he was released from the hospital following surgery (hip replacement and heart bypass). That's one of my pet peeves, especially in supermarkets.

    Their fat asses are wider than the carts, drooping off the seats like sacks of loose potatoes. Yet they don't have handicapped car parking permits, as my husband & I do, so they'll park the cart in the lobby and walk clear across the parking lot to their car that's in a regular space. Or will drive the cart to their car and just leave the thing there to block other drivers' doors, and for an employee to retrieve. icon_mad.gif

    I almost wish stores didn't provide the damn things. Or else issue a key at the customer service desk, after suitable proof is presented of a legal handicap. Yet in all fairness I have seen them used properly, for instance by leg amputees. I just hope no amputee is ever denied one because a lazy, fat-ass porker is running around playing bumper cars.


    Back in 2006, when I had a broken leg and had to use crutches, I greatly appreciated the electric grocery vehicles. Shopping would have been much more difficult without them. However, I put it away properly after unloading it into my car; I even plugged it in. The only (temporary) proof I had of being (temporarily) handicapped was the card that enabled me to use handicapped parking places. I didn't use it if regular parking places were reasonably close.

    It's certainly true that some people have become disabled because of obesity. Their extreme weight damages their joints and their damaged joints cannot support their weight.
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    Dec 21, 2014 9:36 PM GMT
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    Back in 2006, when I had a broken leg and had to use crutches, I greatly appreciated the electric grocery vehicles. Shopping would have been much more difficult without them. However, I put it away properly after unloading it into my car; I even plugged it in. The only (temporary) proof I had of being (temporarily) handicapped was the card that enabled me to use handicapped parking places. I didn't use it if regular parking places were reasonably close.

    It's certainly true that some people have become disabled because of obesity. Their extreme weight damages their joints and their damaged joints cannot support their weight.

    Yours was the appropriate use of this assistive equipment that I expect to see. And I realize that obesity can cause genuine & disabling joint problems (although in most cases I think they would come under the heading of what we unsympathetically termed in the Army a "self-inflicted wound").

    But if there is genuine joint damage causing limited mobility, as I have due to arthritis and injuries, then that is easily established medically and officially by the State. As you appropriately did when you got a temporary (red?) car parking permit during your convalescence.

    BTW, we sometimes don't use our handicapped permits, either (we each have our own). But it's more because a non-handicapped open space is occasionally closer to where we need to go than the handicapped. The placement of marked handicapped parking spaces is often inconsistent and illogical, and not always the most convenient.

    One nice feature of handicapped permits in most of Florida, however, is that they negate the need to pay into public parking meters, when not parking in a handicapped space (which are all unmetered). Your parking becomes free. And in some places like Key West they override their 12-hour maximum use local rule for a space - you can park in place continuously for days, which we've done.

    Another thing: while some days we feel "chipper" when we arrive, and could easily walk from farther away, we can't be sure we'll feel that way when we leave a place some time later. My joints can start howling without warning. And if we're carrying stuff on the way out, even pushing a heavy cart, we really need to be closer to the exit. So we do get good and appropriate use from our permits.
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    Dec 22, 2014 6:41 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidSuch a familiar ring. I guess he could arrange a video presentation to parishioners at his church, bawling and could say, "I have sinned" and ask for forgiveness... or get lessons from Republican Craig from Idaho and just resorting to bathroom stalls.

    Pathetic...

    I wonder what he wants for Christmas?


    Bet he's hoping to stay up to see Santa and offer him a blow job.