DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS ABOUT CHRISTMAS & THE HOLIDAYS How are you spending the holiday and are you happy about it?

  • HndsmKansan

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    Dec 20, 2014 6:10 PM GMT
    We all have different views on this holiday and how we approach it. Over the last week, I've had a half a dozen friends ask me about my plans for the holidays and of course I answer, "to spend it with family and some friends". Some social time, some relaxation, time with the beagles and time in the gym." Going to love it.

    However I've had friends who say they don't "like their parents and aren't planning to be there", some ignoring the holidays and another who is going to be around family constantly and (is going to have a great time doing it). The interesting thing is, all of these friends are planning to enjoy their day, just in very different ways. I find it uncomfortable that society basically paints Christmas as all "family" and if one is alone, somehow that's "sad" or to get away from squabbling family as "negative". Some just want to and I say more power.

    Some however are in circumstances that are challenging and this holiday comes at a bad time. One of my best long term friends told me she and her husband are separating and getting a divorce.... or others who may have lost family. For those, we need to reach out.

    So with the holiday week staring at us, what are your plans?
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    Dec 20, 2014 6:40 PM GMT
    englishdude saidIn short i cant wait untill the 2nd of January and for things to get back to "normal"


    Well there are some years I certainly would agree with
    you. I think this year it will be January 5th since we have the "New Years" weekend. I have to say I'm very glad about that!
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    Dec 20, 2014 6:59 PM GMT
    Business is usually slow and the weather is usually crappy, so I usually do some kind of home improvement project. I was all set to launch into a bunch of cabinet-making, but it occurs to me that I probably should work on details of about a dozen unfinished projects instead.
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    Dec 20, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
    I started to ignore Xmas a couple of years ago and for a while felt pretty good about it, staying away from all that consumerism, gluttony, alcohol and religion. It was just my Jewish husband and I having a lazy day at home and around town.

    However, now I'm starting to miss the Christmas spirit, the looking forward to it, the celebration. Not that I want to restart any of the 'bad' things I listed above, but I'm looking for ideas how to make the time wonderful again. It helps that I'm off work until 01/05.
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    Dec 20, 2014 7:11 PM GMT
    I believe in a deeply traditional Christmas:

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    Dec 20, 2014 7:26 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidI believe in a deeply traditional Christmas:

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    Some "shark skin" boots would be nice under my tree, Jeff...LOL

  • bro4bro

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    Dec 20, 2014 7:45 PM GMT
    For 30+ years I went home to Ohio for a traditional "family" Christmas. It was the one time of the entire year I ever saw my parents or brothers. We were not the closest of families.

    Three years ago my mom passed away and since then I've been spending the day on my own. My brothers and I have quit exchanging gifts (we only did it to make Mom happy).

    At first I was relieved that I no longer had to make the cross-country trek at a time when weather was rotten and airports were ridiculously busy. But I'm getting tired of spending Christmas alone. I need to establish a new holiday tradition for myself - preferably with at least one other breathing human involved.

    However...

    Having worked in a movie theater through college, and having spent Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve, and New Year's Day working till midnight or later, sweeping popcorn and busting people for smoking, drinking, or just plain being assholes in theaters, I swore that for the rest of my life I'd never do anything on Christmas Day that would force other people to work.

    That means no restaurants, no movies, no bars. I'll spend it at my home or someone else's, having a few drinks and a nice dinner, playing music and watching DVDs.
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    Dec 20, 2014 8:45 PM GMT
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    HndsmKansan said
    englishdude saidIn short i cant wait untill the 2nd of January and for things to get back to "normal"


    Well there are some years I certainly would agree with
    you. I think this year it will be January 5th since we have the "New Years" weekend. I have to say I'm very glad about that!
    I lost interest in the Xmas season years ago, just all that hustle and bustle and all that forced happiness with the music in shops makes me cringe and panic. Maybe one year i could have a contented and happy one.


    Agreed! What gets on my nerves is when the malls and stores are advertising Xmas before Halloween, which is the middle of October. Xmas has become a marketing ploy and I'm glad to say that I don't work in banking anymore. I've seen clients get into serious financial problems because they're buying gifts they can't afford. And for what reason….to make an impression? I doubt they did it for the holiday spirit!
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    Dec 20, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
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    FA RA RA RA..RA RA RA RA...!

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  • HndsmKansan

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    Dec 21, 2014 1:54 AM GMT
    Sounds like an awesome goal... meanwhile, have a fantastic Christmas, relaxing and enjoying!



    bro4bro saidFor 30+ years I went home to Ohio for a traditional "family" Christmas. It was the one time of the entire year I ever saw my parents or brothers. We were not the closest of families.

    Three years ago my mom passed away and since then I've been spending the day on my own. My brothers and I have quit exchanging gifts (we only did it to make Mom happy).

    At first I was relieved that I no longer had to make the cross-country trek at a time when weather was rotten and airports were ridiculously busy. But I'm getting tired of spending Christmas alone. I need to establish a new holiday tradition for myself - preferably with at least one other breathing human involved.

    However...

    Having worked in a movie theater through college, and having spent Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve, and New Year's Day working till midnight or later, sweeping popcorn and busting people for smoking, drinking, or just plain being assholes in theaters, I swore that for the rest of my life I'd never do anything on Christmas Day that would force other people to work.

    That means no restaurants, no movies, no bars. I'll spend it at my home or someone else's, having a few drinks and a nice dinner, playing music and watching DVDs.
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    Dec 21, 2014 2:31 AM GMT
    bro4bro said

    But I'm getting tired of spending Christmas alone. I need to establish a new holiday tradition for myself - preferably with at least one other breathing human involved.

    However...

    I'd never do anything on Christmas Day that would force other people to work.

    That means no restaurants, no movies, no bars. I'll spend it at my home or someone else's, having a few drinks and a nice dinner, playing music and watching DVDs.


    Whichever it is, have a pleasant Christmas day.
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    Dec 21, 2014 2:34 AM GMT
    Some years I have spent the week skiing with friends These days, however, seems like everyone is doing that, so it is all too crowded. My favorite Christmas memory in my adult life was arriving in the mountains before Christmas, and then 6 feet of new snow falling. No one who wasn't already there could get there, and we had the mountain to ourselves the next 2 days.

    This year will be a quiet day, ending in dinner with good friends - the gay family I acquired in San Francisco.
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    Dec 21, 2014 4:07 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidHaving worked in a movie theater through college, and having spent Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve, and New Year's Day working till midnight or later, sweeping popcorn and busting people for smoking, drinking, or just plain being assholes in theaters, I swore that for the rest of my life I'd never do anything on Christmas Day that would force other people to work.

    That means no restaurants, no movies, no bars. I'll spend it at my home or someone else's, having a few drinks and a nice dinner, playing music and watching DVDs.

    Not great for the economy but a lovely sentiment nonetheless!

    All that and a beach house too and still alone for the holidays. There Is No Justice.
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    Dec 21, 2014 4:53 AM GMT
    This particular holiday season is a lot different for me than previous years.

    I just finished my first semester of grad school, and I'm the 2nd oldest person in the class---everyone is generally around 23-25 years old, and all of them went home for the break. but i'm still here, because this is where my home is. Having to move every 2-4 years, my home is where I'm currently living. I still have family up in chicago, but I don't consider it my home anymore. and for me, being home during the holidays is where it's at.

    My parents split up 8 years ago, and my mom lives with me now. so i don't have a "home" to really go back to anyway. whenever we go up to chicago, the husbear and I get hotel rooms.

    It's kind of strange trying to explain that to people younger than me.
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    Dec 21, 2014 5:07 AM GMT
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    polfsky said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said

    FA RA RA RA..RA RA RA RA...!

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    Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like a racist. My comment was merely a reference to the movie, "A Christmas Story" where the family had to go to a Chinese restaurant for Christmas dinner. If you've seen the movie you know what I'm talking about. icon_smile.gif



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  • bro4bro

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    Dec 21, 2014 5:18 AM GMT
    Christmas is a huge day at the movie theaters. I never realized that until I worked at one, because my family always stayed home. It never would have occurred to me to go to the movies on Christmas.

    I'm sure the theater owners love being open and raking in the cash.

    But none of us minimum wage workers wanted to be there dealing with crowds all day and into the night on Christmas day.

    I'm sure it's the same at restaurants, convenience stores, and other businesses too. The guy actually doing the work would gladly skip a day's pay to have the holiday off. And if you do have to show up and work, the fewer customers, the better.
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    Dec 21, 2014 6:08 PM GMT
    I LOVE the whole Holiday season!!! ESPECIALLY Christmas!!!

    I decided when I was 18 that I would never spend another Holiday around people I didn't like in some overly heated house trying to choke down food I didn't like and making tedious small talk about things I didn't care about.

    It is said that You can't choose Your family but I tend to disagree a bit. You can't choose who shares Your DNA but You CAN choose Your TRUE family. Often You didn't grow up under the same roof, come from the same place and may not even share much surface commonality - but You know TRUE Family when You find it. That's been My deal for the past few hundred years since turning 18.

    This year has been a very trying often difficult one and I didn't think the Spirit would hit Me. But sure enough it did!!!

    I am living in a 110 year old house in Manhattan with a good friend. We have worked to refurbish it (something I never thought I of ALL People would do) and it has been a true EXPERIENCE. We decorated the hell out of it (3 Christmas Trees!) and I am cooking a couple of major dinners for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.

    The house has been in the same family for decades (since sometime in the late 1920's) and will probably be sold and torn down to,make way for some hideous glass tower that looks like it has been air-lifted from Dubai in the next year or two. But it has been a great experience to taste a bit of NYC history ESPECIALLY at Christmas. I'll never forget it!!!

    I hope EVERYONE has a GREAT Holiday!!!
  • conservativej...

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    Dec 22, 2014 9:53 PM GMT
    Well ...... with children in the house it is AWESOME!!!

    I have always known that the difference between men and boys is the size of their toys.
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    Dec 22, 2014 10:47 PM GMT
    Christmas is for Kids.

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    Dec 22, 2014 11:00 PM GMT
    HikerSkier saidSome years I have spent the week skiing with friends These days, however, seems like everyone is doing that, so it is all too crowded. My favorite Christmas memory in my adult life was arriving in the mountains before Christmas, and then 6 feet of new snow falling. No one who wasn't already there could get there, and we had the mountain to ourselves the next 2 days.

    This year will be a quiet day, ending in dinner with good friends - the gay family I acquired in San Francisco.



    One year, sometime in the 70's, we had four feet of snow on the last day of the winter school vacation. (Quite a lot for this area.) Bonus: Extra week of vacation icon_lol.gif

    ... until the fire department rounded up all the teens and had us shoveling snow off old-folks roofs all week icon_sad.gif
  • wellwell

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    Dec 23, 2014 3:39 AM GMT
    Escaping the Carols. EXTATIC, due to success!
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    Dec 23, 2014 4:24 AM GMT
    englishdude saidIn short i cant wait untill the 2nd of January and for things to get back to "normal"


    I live in New Orleans. The holidays and festivities do not end until Ash Wednesday. January 1 is another big family holiday. Jan 6 is the start of carnival season and king cakes, balls, and street parades culminating on Mardi Gras day. By Ash Wednesday we're exhausted!
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    Dec 23, 2014 4:29 AM GMT
    ^ What I noticed in Spain is that Every Single Weekend is The Festival of some-saint-or-other that is the patron saint of some village in the area. Which basically means that there is always a party going on down the road a little way. Your town only has to host once or twice a year.

    Seems like a pretty good system to me.
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    Dec 23, 2014 6:53 AM GMT
    Oh yeah, I got caught out on Columbus Day once... didn't realize it was a Major Holiday when all the restaurants were going to be closed.

    Siesta, you learn to appreciate, when it's 114° in the afternoons. Aaand you stay out partying until dawn icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 23, 2014 11:31 AM GMT
    mindgarden said^ What I noticed in Spain is that Every Single Weekend is The Festival of some-saint-or-other that is the patron saint of some village in the area. Which basically means that there is always a party going on down the road a little way. Your town only has to host once or twice a year.

    Seems like a pretty good system to me.


    Our Irish and Italian population celebrate St. Patrick's day and St. Joseph's day which usually breaks our Lent with more parades, indulging in beer, and delicious Italian treats from St. Joseph altars.