Racism makes us falter and it slows down progress

  • Paperless_Pen

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    Dec 24, 2014 10:21 AM GMT
    It is a long article and I suggest we all read it.

    Racism causes distrust. We cannot help each other if we see threats all the time. This becomes circular if we see threats from one side and then the other side react to it aggressively so it spirals out of control.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/11/science-of-racism-prejudice

    Of course it slows down progress. It hinders cooperation. We see things that aren't there. It stokes hostility and we blame others because it is easier to point the finger and say it.

    Motherjones.comBut it's not just guns and tools flashing on the screen: Before each object you see a face, either white or black. The faces appear for a split second, the objects for a split second, and then you have to press a key. If you are faster and more accurate at identifying guns after you see a black face than after you see a white face, that would suggest your brain associates guns (and threat) more with the former. You might also be more inclined to wrongly think you see a gun, when it's actually just a tool, right after seeing a black face. (The weapons task was created by psychologist Keith Payne of the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill in response to the tragic 1999 death of Amadou Diallo, a Guinean immigrant shot by New York City police after the officers mistook the wallet in his hand for a weapon.)


    Some things I question. Why buy a toy gun that looks like a real gun? Are we teaching young kids to be violent? The police also need to practice restraint when young people are present. The police should be equipped with better protection. You can't just shoot whenever you feel threatened.
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Dec 24, 2014 3:51 PM GMT
    Homophobia would also slow down progress I would imagine.
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 24, 2014 3:56 PM GMT
    1AlanZSky saidHomophobia would also slow down progress I would imagine.

    No, it's not really the same thing. Gay people aren't segregated. Our closest allies are our families. We get most of our support from straight people who have "evolved." I don't really see the same people evolving when it comes race issues.
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Dec 24, 2014 4:25 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    1AlanZSky saidHomophobia would also slow down progress I would imagine.

    No, it's not really the same thing. Gay people aren't segregated. Our closest allies are our families. We get most of our support from straight people who have "evolved." I don't really see the same people evolving when it comes race issues.


    Not really implies it still could be. Our allies also come from straight people these days, only recently. Yes. I suppose you are right in that gay people tend to view other races as less favorable compared with white gay men.
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Dec 24, 2014 4:34 PM GMT
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    Dec 24, 2014 4:37 PM GMT
    Some white gay men may be quite delusional when it comes to their perceived place in the hierarchy they imagine.

    Having a look that suggests European nobility...and an excellent dental plan....will only take you so far.

    Discipline, drive and enthusiasm will take you to success, perhaps even the Presidency of the USA.
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    Dec 24, 2014 4:40 PM GMT
    Progress?

    Progress would be better schools for all, so at least the next generation can suffer less poverty. A lot more important than the good feeling we would all get if there were less racism.
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 24, 2014 4:43 PM GMT
    Determinate saidSome white gay men may be quite delusional when it comes to their perceived place in the hierarchy they imagine.

    Having a look that suggests European nobility...and an excellent dental plan....will only take you so far.

    Discipline, drive and enthusiasm will take you to success, perhaps even the Presidency of the USA.

    Omg, are you saying I might get shot by the police for DWW?icon_eek.gif

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    Dec 24, 2014 4:46 PM GMT
    Puppenjunge saidProgress?

    Progress would be better schools for all, so at least the next generation can suffer less poverty. A lot more important than the good feeling we would all get if there were less racism.

    Ending racism is about more than just warm fuzzy feelings for white people. Sheesh! I can't believe how white guys have to make everything all about them.icon_evil.gif
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    HottJoe said
    Determinate saidSome white gay men may be quite delusional when it comes to their perceived place in the hierarchy they imagine.

    Having a look that suggests European nobility...and an excellent dental plan....will only take you so far.

    Discipline, drive and enthusiasm will take you to success, perhaps even the Presidency of the USA.

    Omg, are you saying I might get shot by the police for DWW?icon_eek.gif



    NOT a reference to you at all. " Sheesh! I can't believe how white guys have to make everything all about them."icon_twisted.gif
  • AMoonHawk

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    Dec 24, 2014 4:50 PM GMT
    It is not so much racism that is the problem. It is prejudice and bigotry that is the real problem. Think of bigotry as a really big circle. Inside the circle you will find prejudice and then inside that circle you will find racism. It is amazing how people will bitch about racism, but yet those same people are prejudice against other society segments, eg., the handicapped, the poor and homeless, transsexual, bi sexual and gay people, Mormons, Catholics, and Jehovah's Witnesses and the list goes on and on. And even within each of those segments is bigotry and prejudice within their own social segments. For instance, masculine gays can be prejudice against fem and twink gays. So while racism is a problem, it is not the root or whole of the problem. What society needs to do is root out all hate and prejudice against others and promote acceptance of everyone for their differences.
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 24, 2014 4:51 PM GMT
    Determinate said
    HottJoe said
    Determinate saidSome white gay men may be quite delusional when it comes to their perceived place in the hierarchy they imagine.

    Having a look that suggests European nobility...and an excellent dental plan....will only take you so far.

    Discipline, drive and enthusiasm will take you to success, perhaps even the Presidency of the USA.

    Omg, are you saying I might get shot by the police for DWW?icon_eek.gif



    NOT a reference to you at all. " Sheesh! I can't believe how white guys have to make everything all about them."icon_twisted.gif

    Well played, haha.icon_redface.gif

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  • 1AlanZSky

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    Dec 24, 2014 5:11 PM GMT
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    Dec 24, 2014 5:24 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Puppenjunge saidProgress?

    Progress would be better schools for all, so at least the next generation can suffer less poverty. A lot more important than the good feeling we would all get if there were less racism.

    Ending racism is about more than just warm fuzzy feelings for white people. Sheesh! I can't believe how white guys have to make everything all about them.icon_evil.gif
    Well, if all we white guys became good Christians, and loved our neighbors (I can think of a few hot neighbors that could use some gay loving), thus ending racism, poor minority kids in lousy schools would still end up as poverty-stricken adults. That would make their lives just purrfect?
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Dec 24, 2014 5:30 PM GMT
    Can non-christians not practise good will and kindness?
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    Dec 24, 2014 5:35 PM GMT
    1AlanZSky saidCan non-christians not practise good will and kindness?

    It's the Christians that have "the golden rule" of Jesus, and thus ordained for them.
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    Dec 24, 2014 5:41 PM GMT
    1AlanZSky saidhttp://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/dec/24/rush-limbaugh-idris-elba-james-bond-black

    He should be James Bond and I think he is hot. I would not mind sleeping with him. #
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  • 1AlanZSky

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    Dec 24, 2014 5:46 PM GMT
    Puppenjunge said
    1AlanZSky saidCan non-christians not practise good will and kindness?

    It's the Christians that have "the golden rule" of Jesus, and thus ordained for them.


    I don't believe in "God". I don't believe in Original Sin. I don't believe in the resurrection of Jesus. I find the idea of a personal God offensive. He created Adam and Eve and they sinned. Well, given a long enough time they would have sinned anyway. So Jesus died for our sins and it is through him we are saved and his salvation will save us. UTTER RUBBISH.

    Ephesians 2:8 says it is through faith

    The reason why we "sin" is because we are animals. Over millions of years of evolution mammals have an instinct and we are not robots where we are programmed to act in a certain way. Feelings and emotions are here with us. For that reason empathy is the reason we are fair and loving. It is through love and fairness that we breed our children. That works. If we are rude to others then we won't have that spouse or friend or colleague.

    Jesus did not die. He never made a sacrifice if he resurrected. That is not logical. But the Christian argument is that He loves us. So He waited for so long for the Old Testament to pass and the New Testament to take over. The Jews must be wrong!

    The teachings of Jesus are sound. But I do not believe in the resurrection of Jesus because it is offensive to human nature that we cannot reach salvation on our own but through this Jesus we can. Is he saying we human beings are at fault because Adam and Eve did not obey God? Why condemn the descendants of Adam and Eve?

    I do not accept Christianity and it is through Christianity that it will fail.
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    Dec 24, 2014 5:50 PM GMT
    1AlanZSky said
    Puppenjunge said
    1AlanZSky saidCan non-christians not practise good will and kindness?

    It's the Christians that have "the golden rule" of Jesus, and thus ordained for them.


    I do not accept Christianity and it is through Christianity that it will fail.

    Do you believe in Islam?
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Dec 24, 2014 5:53 PM GMT
    __morphic__ said
    1AlanZSky said
    Puppenjunge said
    1AlanZSky saidCan non-christians not practise good will and kindness?

    It's the Christians that have "the golden rule" of Jesus, and thus ordained for them.


    I do not accept Christianity and it is through Christianity that it will fail.

    Do you believe in Islam?


    I do not believe in God. That should answer your question. I do not like Islam either. I don't like the way women are covered up and I know it is a choice but many Arab countries do not allow women to be free. Even the Turkish president said women are not equal and women should not laugh.

    I dislike monotheism and the Abrahamic faiths.

    Perhaps you disagree with me?
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    1AlanZSky said
    __morphic__ said
    1AlanZSky said
    Puppenjunge said
    1AlanZSky saidCan non-christians not practise good will and kindness?

    It's the Christians that have "the golden rule" of Jesus, and thus ordained for them.


    I do not accept Christianity and it is through Christianity that it will fail.

    Do you believe in Islam?


    I do not believe in God. That should answer your question. I do not like Islam either. I don't like the way women are covered up and I know it is a choice but many Arab countries do not allow women to be free. Even the Turkish president said women are not equal and women should not laugh.

    I dislike monotheism and the Abrahamic faiths.

    Perhaps you disagree with me?

    Nope. I don't believe in any religion either. So I agree with you.
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    Dec 24, 2014 6:05 PM GMT
    I misread the thread title as "Racism makes us fatter and it slows down progress"

    That would also make for some very interesting reading!
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    Dec 24, 2014 8:33 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidI misread the thread title as "Racism makes us fatter and it slows down progress"

    That would also make for some very interesting reading!

    Well then, by reducing racism in the country, we would reduce obesity.