President Obama has given the country a good Christmas gift

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    Dec 25, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
    The economy is picking up
    Unemployment levels are decent
    Vibrant job market
    Shrinking federal deficit

    Congrats and a Merry Christmas to everyone

    Here's to an even more prosperous New Year to us all.
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    Dec 25, 2014 4:11 PM GMT
    you forgot - Obamacare.
  • mrhappy21

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    Dec 26, 2014 3:06 AM GMT
    And improved relations with Cuba! If it weren't for damn Congress, we'd be free to travel there for the holidays
  • REBEL_YELL

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    Dec 26, 2014 3:27 AM GMT
    Obama is the worst president ever...I can't stand a liar, and that's all he does

  • Dec 26, 2014 3:42 AM GMT
    ^^^ Whhhhaaa???
  • tj85016

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    Dec 26, 2014 3:47 AM GMT
    thanks Federal Reserve, but we'll pay later for it
  • FRE0

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    Dec 26, 2014 3:57 AM GMT
    REBEL_YELL saidObama is the worst president ever...I can't stand a liar, and that's all he does


    I suppose that if Obama stated that the sun rises in the east you could figure that he was lying.

    Like all politicians, and like people in general, he's had a checkered performance.
  • NerdLifter

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    Dec 26, 2014 4:06 AM GMT
    It bothers me how people keep touting all these great numbers and that Wallstreet is having a grand-old-time with its bull market. However, the median income has been stagnant for half a decade now, and nearly all the economic gains have been going to corporate coffers, banks, and the top 1% of the population.

    Corporations and banks are making record profits, and the stock market is hitting record highs, but that does not mean the average worker is feeling it. Oh, and median income, after accounting for inflation, still has not recovered past the pre-2008 crash levels.

    I'm just saying, Obama did a great job for his Corporatist buddies and lying through his teeth that he would not appoint lobbyists to government positions. But what did we expect? His top donors were from the banks and telecomm industry. Quid pro quo is now the status quo here in DC. Bribe your politician of choice with campaign contributions to buy laws, subsidies, and regulatory appointments of your choosing.

    NOTE: I am NOT saying it would be better with a republican president. I'm just a crazy liberal who is very displeased with the horribly corrupt federal government that is for-sale to the highest bidder and how the media is completely complicit and in-bed with the system because those same campaign donors are their donors/advertisers.
  • NerdLifter

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    Dec 26, 2014 4:10 AM GMT
    FRE0 said
    REBEL_YELL saidObama is the worst president ever...I can't stand a liar, and that's all he does


    I suppose that if Obama stated that the sun rises in the east you could figure that he was lying.

    Like all politicians, and like people in general, he's had a checkered performance.

    I think the one lie that really "grinds my gears" is that he said he would not appoint lobbyists, but then made hundreds of exceptions and appointed lobbyists to chair positions in regulatory bodies like the FCC, FDA, etc.
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    Dec 26, 2014 4:25 AM GMT
    I think he has done good. I think he wanted to do great things and ran into Washington and a group of people willing to do the opposite of whatever he wanted, no matter what it was..

    I hope we can build on these things as a country but addressing the real issues has to come from the people.. politicians will never be able to take on their corporate donors.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Dec 26, 2014 5:50 AM GMT
    Is this post for real? Obama has little control over many of those things but likes to take credit for them cuz he hasn't done much good
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    Dec 26, 2014 7:10 AM GMT
    NerdLifter saidIt bothers me how people keep touting all these great numbers and that Wallstreet is having a grand-old-time with its bull market. However, the median income has been stagnant for half a decade now, and nearly all the economic gains have been going to corporate coffers, banks, and the top 1% of the population.

    Corporations and banks are making record profits, and the stock market is hitting record highs, but that does not mean the average worker is feeling it. Oh, and median income, after accounting for inflation, still has not recovered past the pre-2008 crash levels.

    I'm just saying, Obama did a great job for his Corporatist buddies and lying through his teeth that he would not appoint lobbyists to government positions. But what did we expect? His top donors were from the banks and telecomm industry. Quid pro quo is now the status quo here in DC. Bribe your politician of choice with campaign contributions to buy laws, subsidies, and regulatory appointments of your choosing.

    NOTE: I am NOT saying it would be better with a republican president. I'm just a crazy liberal who is very displeased with the horribly corrupt federal government that is for-sale to the highest bidder and how the media is completely complicit and in-bed with the system because those same campaign donors are their donors/advertisers.


    I think he's done a good job considering how Shrub trashed the country for eight years in ways that we will always bear the scars from, such as the immoral Iraq War. But I agree that Obama has not pushed hard enough to reign in the accumulation of wealth among a smaller slice of the population. On the other hand, the GOP legislature has been a complete joke. So, yeah.
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    Dec 26, 2014 2:37 PM GMT
    I think he has shown very good leadership over the Sony Pictures debacle. Okay, so it was a relatively minor thing, but he rebuked Sony Pictures for their timidity and probably authorized a retaliatory cyber attack on North Korea.
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    Dec 26, 2014 2:46 PM GMT
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  • HndsmKansan

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    Dec 26, 2014 3:02 PM GMT
    Being a democrat, certainly an Obama voter. Things are much better than when Bush departed. I've been in support of many of the things done. That said, the manner in which things have been attempted and managed have been challenged. A reasoned approach to action is always prudent, provided there is action.

    Interesting, the change in our approach with Cuba is precisely what I like. No bull, just the announcement based on sound reasoning (whether one agrees with it is their own business). I don't have a hard opinion on that action, but glad he took a stand and made the change.

    Sounds like the economy is finally making some major strides and hope it continues.
  • venue35

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    Dec 26, 2014 3:12 PM GMT

    Expectations were too high-like the Star Wars prequels.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Dec 26, 2014 4:44 PM GMT
    He sure did "change" our country
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    Dec 26, 2014 6:56 PM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidHe sure did "change" our country

    it seems you do "believe" that.
  • OutdoorAdvent...

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    Dec 26, 2014 7:11 PM GMT
    __morphic__ saidyou forgot - Obamacare.

    Yes, now even the poor have access to healthcare!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 26, 2014 7:14 PM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidIs this post for real? Obama has little control over many of those things but likes to take credit for them cuz he hasn't done much good
    Exactly, +1
  • KissTheSky

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    Dec 26, 2014 7:25 PM GMT
    OutdoorAdventurist said
    __morphic__ saidyou forgot - Obamacare.

    Yes, now even the poor have access to healthcare!


    +1
    Let's be honest, this is the single biggest accomplishment of any president since Reagan. The country has wrestled with the problems of the uninsured for more than a century, and Obama is the first president to make massive progress.
    Millions more Americans have access to medical care. In my book that's a good thing.
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    Dec 26, 2014 9:05 PM GMT
    Joeyphx444 said Obama has little control over many of those things



    "Obama has little control over many of those things"



    Hmmm, I don't believe those words were ever uttered when the rightwingers were discussing Ebola, ISIS...and back when unemployment and gas prices were up.

  • LEANDRO_NJ

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    Dec 26, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
    I think that President Obama has done a great job under the circumstances! having to faced multiple social, global, and economic difficulties all at the same time! even then he has kept his cool! unfortunately its being the highly divided American voters, who keep making it more and more difficult for both parties to carry out things that would benefit our country! its being the middle class who have being forgotten by both Republican, Democrats, and the so called Tea Party!
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    Dec 26, 2014 10:24 PM GMT
    ^^^Agreed above poster. Yeah I noticed that he's doing a better/great job too. icon_smile.gif Great!

  • wellwell

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    Dec 27, 2014 2:19 AM GMT
    REBEL_YELL saidObama is the worst president ever...I can't stand a liar, and that's all he does


    All we'll have is liars, until we fall-out-of-love w/ incumbents'.