'I am a Palestinian, I am gay'

  • metta

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    Dec 25, 2014 5:10 PM GMT
    I am a Palestinian, I am gay


    http://honisoit.com/2014/09/i-am-a-palestinian-i-am-gay/
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    Dec 25, 2014 5:36 PM GMT
    And not living in Palestine.
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    Dec 25, 2014 6:01 PM GMT
    metta8 saidI am a Palestinian, I am gay

    And a shmuck with a chip on his shoulder.
    Pass.
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    Dec 26, 2014 3:16 AM GMT
    pouncer said
    Sharkspeare said
    metta8 saidI am a Palestinian, I am gay

    And a shmuck with a chip on his shoulder.
    Pass.

    You would sport a chip too had your family suffered war crimes and crimes against humanity at the hands of a state still widely believed to uphold an unequaled standard of purity of arms.
    ship up u ugly ugly troll !!! How many tockets killed egpytians ? Hundreds u nasty pig virgin . Why is hamas firing rockets at egpyt ? They rejected 2 great peace plans in 2000and 2008 pig face
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    Dec 26, 2014 3:16 AM GMT
    Great article.
    It's also great to see more and more people in the US seeking the truth of what's going on in the region.
    Israel is such an atrocious country.
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    Dec 26, 2014 3:18 AM GMT
    Fact is in palestine and your gay your good as dead . Every year hundreds try to sneak into israel . Hamas made it clear any1 who is gay they wi kill
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    Dec 26, 2014 3:19 AM GMT
    canadian_stud saidGreat article.
    It's also great to see more and more people in the US seeking the truth of what's going on in the region.
    Israel is such an atrocious country.
    haha ! Your from turkey . Your country killed all the christians in turkey ! Millions killed ! Turkey forces the kurds to live in mountains , they bomb and kill them for fun
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    Dec 26, 2014 3:38 AM GMT
    canadian_stud saidGreat article.
    It's also great to see more and more people in the US seeking the truth of what's going on in the region.
    Israel is such an atrocious country.
    wasn't it turkey who forced hamas to reject the ceasefires ? Ya that's what I thought . Turkey nazi president to this day denies the genocide of christian occurred . It was turkeys president who denied the kurds from crossing into syria to help fellow kurds . Most Americans see what's going on tbe region, the whole Middle East is on fire
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 26, 2014 4:16 AM GMT
    canadian_stud saidIsrael is such an atrocious country.

    Oh, dear, and here I thought this was about GAY Palestinians.
    Not Israel.

    The author of the link was similarly only out to demonize Israel.

    How sad. The author has sold his gay brothers & sisters in the territories down the river. Attacking Israel is shamefully his priority. The word peace doesn't even pretend to appear in his article. If the conflict with Israel persists for another 70 or 150 years, gay rights in the territories will just have to wait....

    Further odd that the author states: "Western discussions of queer rights in the Middle East miss without fail: the voices of queers in the region" when smugly writing in Australia. Even as his gay brethren in the territories are deprived a voice and instead speak with their feet - fleeing for the safety of Israel (and in at least one case, a Jewish village - "settlement" - in the territories). Yes, despite the "25 foot wall of concrete" (95% of the security barrier is a fence, except in areas where Palestinian Arab terrorists used to shoot across the ceasefire line at Israeli civilians on the other side).

    Note that the LGBT organizations servicing this population (Al Qaws and Aswat) are located not in the PA/Hamas territories but in Israel.

    See also:

    "Palestine" is the Latin/European name for Eretz Yisrael, the Jewish homeland
    - and early 20th century Arab denials of the existence of "Palestine".

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/349491

    The Palestine Paradox
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2652202

    Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people.
    (Judaism is a religion, Jews are an ethnic group)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/494893

    Arabs are not indigenous to Israel - now confirmed by Hamas
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/979648

    1947-1948: Arabs reject compromise and attack Israel
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/960691

    Jerusalem
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/887747

    The two-state solution: Revisiting the Clinton Compromise Parameters and the Olmert Plan.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2670812


    Countries that support gays or kill them
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/984797

    Gay Palestinians
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1061322?forumpage=4

    Israel Plans Monument to Gays Persecuted by Nazis
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3401610
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    Dec 26, 2014 4:36 AM GMT
    pouncer said
    Sharkspeare said
    metta8 saidI am a Palestinian, I am gay

    And a shmuck with a chip on his shoulder.
    Pass.

    You would sport a chip too had your family suffered war crimes and crimes against humanity at the hands of a state still widely believed to uphold an unequaled standard of purity of arms.

    Um, they did. It was called the Holocaust. I expect you're one of those Holocaust-deniers, though.
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 26, 2014 5:21 AM GMT
    Before AyaTrollah pouncer twists that to mean that the Arabs of Palestine suffered a Holocaust, let me voice that during the "Final Solution" stage, thousands of Jews were methodically murdered every DAY. Day after day, week after week, month after month... for more than 3 years.

    During the entire 1948 war (the Naqba or catastrophe), which lasted 15 months, there were about 800 Arabs killed extra-judiciously (according to Prof. Benny Morris, one of the foremost experts on the subject). The war, a result of the violent Arab rejection of the UN partition compromise of 1947, produced 700,000 Arab refugees (some expelled, the majority fleeing the Arab-initiated violence) and over 850,000 Jewish refugees (primarily from Arab countries, but also from areas conquered by invading Arab armies).

    1947-1948: Arabs reject compromise and attack Israel
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/960691

    In modern times, Propaganda pouncer and I were just debating if 50 or 56 people were killed in the "Jenin 'Massacre'" (at least half and probably 60% were terrorists and it is likely most of the few civilians killed died from terrorist booby traps rather than the IDF). This in 3 weeks of fighting in an area much more densely populated than Gaza City.

    Hopefully this puts things in perspective.

    During the Holocaust and WW II, partisans primarily attacked German army units and infrastructure. The Jewish Resistance in the Warsaw Ghetto attacked German troops, it didn't fire rockets at civilians in Warsaw or blow up civilian buses, cafes, nightclubs, markets, restaurants, hotels and schools in Warsaw or Berlin.

    Furthermore, had the UN (or League of Nations) offered a compromise, or had President Clinton (or Roosevelt or Churchill) devised a compromise giving the Jews 97% of what they wanted, they would have accepted rather than reject solutions for generations even while complaining how horrible their conditions are (while boasting of how they sacrifice for the cause and will settle for nothing short of total victory).

    The two-state solution: Revisiting the Clinton Compromise Parameters and the Olmert Plan.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2670812
  • tj85016

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    Dec 26, 2014 6:15 AM GMT
    Sharkspeare said
    metta8 saidI am a Palestinian, I am gay

    And a shmuck with a chip on his shoulder.
    Pass.


    wouldn't he be an Israeli if he were a schmuck?
  • danielek

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    Dec 26, 2014 7:34 AM GMT
    One thing is certain: you don't want to be gay in an Arab country.
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    Dec 26, 2014 8:47 AM GMT
    The writer is off his rocker - proud to be a Palestinian and gay - yet admitting he can't come out and be open. He must know his Palestinian bretheren would kill him if they knew he was gay.

    Yet his is not an enviable situation - A gay Palestinian's only hope is to leave the country - but 99% could never get a visa to go anywhere. So he has to suppress his sexuality whether or not he fights in some way against Israel, knowing that his comrades would not accept him as gay.
  • johnnyqhomo7

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    Dec 26, 2014 10:39 AM GMT
    That must be hard, i hear in islam they kill gay people outright..
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 26, 2014 3:33 PM GMT
    canadian_stud saidGreat article.
    It's also great to see more and more people in the US seeking the truth of what's going on in the region.
    Israel is such an atrocious country.
    Thank you. Israel has become a terrorist nation-state thanks to that despicable Bibi Netanyahu. That man needs to be taken out.
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    Dec 26, 2014 9:11 PM GMT
    Does anyone really care?
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    Dec 26, 2014 9:12 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidDoes anyone really care?

    egg-jactly
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    Dec 26, 2014 9:15 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    canadian_stud saidGreat article.
    It's also great to see more and more people in the US seeking the truth of what's going on in the region.
    Israel is such an atrocious country.
    Thank you. Israel has become a terrorist nation-state thanks to that despicable Bibi Netanyahu. That man needs to be taken out.
    shut up u ugly balding toad
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 26, 2014 9:35 PM GMT
    I'm guessing no one bothered to read AyaTrollah pouncer's screed which is his usual web of lies. Indeed, like any two-bit troll, he can never discuss a topic in its thread. So here he posts one sentence (that doesn't even support his claim given the lack of scope) while ignoring paragraphs of evidence already cited in the thread discussing that topic. He's hoping to find a "useful idiot" to fool and recruit.

    To underscore the mentally depravity of Propaganda pouncer, suffice to look at these 2 comments:

    pp> [Hamas terrorists] could have achieved a far higher death toll had they targeted civilians.

    As if the nearly 5,000 rockets they launched at Israeli urban population centers weren't targeting civilians? The reason they failed to kill more than a few Israeli civilians is thanks to Israel's investment in defense: early warning system, anti-missile missiles and bomb shelters.


    pp> The Nazis killed far less people in Ležáky than Israel in Jenin

    The claim is false at every level.

    The nazis murdered, in cold blood, all 33 adults in the village, and later gassed 11 of 13 children (the other 2 survived in an Aryanization Program). Another adult committed suicide. So we have a death toll of 45, 44 of whom were murdered in cold blood. Furthermore, the entire village was razed to the ground.

    The death toll in Jenin was 50ish. Of these, 30ish were terrorists. Of the 20ish civilians killed, it is estimated that less than half were killed by the IDF (the others by the terrorists). Not in cold blood, but during fighting.

    How sick must someone be to juxtapose these?!

    A more apt comparison might be to American troops operating in Fallujah (Iraq) in 2004. During the battle, some 200 of Zarqawi's terrorists were killed, along with about 600 civilians. (In such urban fighting civilian casualties are usually 80-90%, so 75% is relatively better than average). Later that year Allied forces again fought there, killing some 1,350 terrorists and 800 civilians.

    What we learn here is how propagandists like pouncer abuse language and sling slogans, vapid soundbites and libelous labels. In any battle, if even 1 Arab civilian is inadvertently killed by Israel, it's a "war crime" and "massacre". You begin to understand why despite "dozens" or even "hundreds" of "massacres" in the 1948 war (over 15 months), only about 800 Arab civilians were killed. Fewer than have been killed in Syria or Iraq, in recent years, in at times 1 DAY.

    AyaTrollah pouncer hates Jews and all things Jewish (he's railed against Hebrew, the Jewish language, Judaism, the Jewish religion, Jewish history and, of course, Israel, the Jewish state). He couldn't care less how many HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people are killed by Israel's enemies today. He's too obsessed hating Jews/Israel. For simpletons like him, the enemy of his enemy is his friend, and he'll even embrace the ilk of Hamas, Hizbullah and Al Qaida.
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 26, 2014 9:36 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIsrael has become a terrorist nation-state thanks to that despicable Bibi Netanyahu. That man needs to be taken out.

    Which doesn't explain why this rabid Anti-Semite voiced - when Olmert was Prime Minister of Israel - that "Jews have it coming". It becomes clear that he uses Netanyahu as an effigy for Israel, and Israel as code for Jews.

    A few weeks ago he blamed the regions problems on Netanyahu (Syria? Iraq? Iran? Afghanistan? North Africa?), calling him (aka Israel/Jews) "international troublemakers" and added that he hoped "you Jews learn a hard lesson".

    AyaTrollah pouncer was delighted to have encountered a similarly (sick) minded idiot and refused to disagree.
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    Dec 26, 2014 9:40 PM GMT
    mwolverine said
    roadbikeRob saidIsrael has become a terrorist nation-state thanks to that despicable Bibi Netanyahu. That man needs to be taken out.

    Which doesn't explain why this rabid Anti-Semite voiced - when Olmert was Prime Minister of Israel - that "Jews have it coming". It becomes clear that he uses Netanyahu as an effigy for Israel, and Israel as code for Jews.

    A few weeks ago he blamed the regions problems on Netanyahu (Syria? Iraq? Iran? Afghanistan? North Africa?), calling him (aka Israel/Jews) "international troublemakers" and added that he hoped "you Jews learn a hard lesson".

    AyaTrollah pouncer was delighted to have encountered a similarly (sick) minded idiot and refused to disagree.
    who cares what virgin pouncer and rob the toad think ? Both are nasty disgusting vile serpants of satan . Rob unlocked his private photos , I habe no idea why I clicked on them . Eeeew
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    Dec 26, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
    pouncer u filthy animal. get your facts straight! over the PAST year HAMAS has luanched hundreds of rockets in egpyt! they have no system like israel. israeli have thirty seconds to get to bunkers , we got iron drone. the fact is hundreds of egptyians have died from hamas rockets and terror
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    Dec 26, 2014 10:01 PM GMT
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4550220,00.html
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    Dec 26, 2014 10:17 PM GMT
    pouncer saidc> AyaTrollah pouncer was delighted to have encountered a similarly (sick) minded idiot and refused to disagree

    Oh dear, and how did c characterize this refusal at the time?

    || pp> [disagrees]


    Seriously, how lucky am I that this is the quality of my enemies?
    u not speak for us, the only refugees are jews. the jews got kicked out of every middle eastern country , thats right we are zionist , and are G!D protects us,