‘Traditional families’ are no longer the norm in the US

  • metta

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    Dec 28, 2014 7:50 AM GMT
    ‘Traditional families’ are no longer the norm in the US

    Research of census data and other surveys has concluded that an increasing number of children are born outside of marriage or are being brought up by a single parent or same-sex couple

    Its research into modern US families found that, in 2013, 46% of children lived in what some would regard as a ‘traditional’ arrangement: being born to, and living with, a mom and dad in their first marriage. This contrasts with 73% of children back in 1960, when people tended to marry young and start families soon afterwards.

    Similarly, in 1960, only 5% of children were born outside of marriage – a figure that has now risen to 41%.

    The research found that 5% of children are not being raised by either of their parents; often being raised instead by grandparents. It discovered that 15% of children today are living with parents who are in a remarriage, while 34% are living with an unmarried parent. Within this number, the researchers have included the number of children that live with an LGBT parent or same-sex couple.

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    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/%E2%80%98traditional-families%E2%80%99-are-no-longer-norm-us271214
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    Dec 28, 2014 4:31 PM GMT
    That explains a lot.
  • KissTheSky

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    Dec 28, 2014 8:58 PM GMT
    Something the conservatives don't seem to realize is that when they use offensive language to bash non-traditional families, they are insulting the majority of Americans.
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    Dec 28, 2014 9:16 PM GMT
    If by "Traditional Family", you mean "Both parents dead before I was 30", no children, and brothers and sisters who only call me when they need money, medical advice, or to phone in a prescription because they are too cheap to pay their $5.00 copay, then, yes...I'm as traditional as it gets. LOL.
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    Dec 29, 2014 12:59 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidSomething the conservatives don't seem to realize is that when they use offensive language to bash non-traditional families, they are insulting the majority of Americans.



    They understand that are the 15 percenters but they know that their outrageous rants would not be heard if the gay press did not give them air play so they continue.
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    Dec 29, 2014 1:44 AM GMT
    That's not all good news.

    Women left the home and went to work.

    People started working longer hours or were "forced" to work longer hours. And total employee compensation remained under 1% in the U.S. for all that productivity.

    There was the me generation which didn't do a good job at defending the traditional family structure.

    There were political actions that took away the traditional family's economic stability. Globalization and the internet made their contributions as well.

    We couldn't get in and out of a 4-year college for less than $24,000. Some students had to achieve their 4-year college degree while working a 40-hour week. Then after that achievement employers got on a certification kick, for example, a degree in Finance wasn't good enough, now we need you to have series 6/7 and 63.

    Education, career, and financial debt issues definitely damaged the traditional family.
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    Dec 29, 2014 4:58 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidSomething the conservatives don't seem to realize is that when they use offensive language to bash non-traditional families, they are insulting the majority of Americans.


    I don't see how supporting the traditional family insults those who are not in traditional families. Do children of divorced parents feel that it is better or equal that their parents got divorced? That seems silly. I think everyone wants to grow up with a tight-knit family unit. No child wants his single mother working 24/7 to earn enough to support her family and therefore hardly see her and hardly ever to spend time with her.

    This is not to mention the financial and educational and emotional and spiritual advantages and support that naturally come with having 2 spouses and a stable family environment. By every social science metric, kids do better growing up in "traditional families" than "non-traditional families".
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    Dec 29, 2014 5:56 AM GMT
    CLT, sorry for you on your folks, man, I can't imagine.

    On traditional family, in some ways we're headed back to what was tradition when families stayed together for generations, or in today's mobile society's version of moving back together--caring for your elderly while you've still got kids at home.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandwich_generation
    The Sandwich generation is a generation of people who care for their aging parents while supporting their own children.

    According to the Pew Research Center, just over 1 of every 8 Americans aged 40 to 60 is both raising a child and caring for a parent, in addition to between 7 to 10 million adults caring for their aging parents from a long distance. US Census Bureau statistics indicate that the number of older Americans aged 65 or older will double by the year 2030, to over 70 million.


    This is especially true for couples who don't marry and have kids until later in life, like my brother's second marriage. So he wound up with younger kids and aging parents. We've still got my dad with his wife but he could wind up with either one of us if she predeceases him (of course, I've already volunteered my brother) and my brother and s-I-l have already taken care of her dad until he died and now they've got her mom and still have one of three kids at home in his 20s.

    So that's like 1600/1700's traditional.

    And then I'm not sure as to the quality of the figures for a few reasons. For one thing, a lot of babies born out of wedlock weren't reported as bastards. Some children were even raised as a sibling of the parent instead of as their child, raised instead as a child of their grandparents. Maybe not so much in the 60s but in the generation before that.

    And then before inflation drove women into the workforce, who's to say the father was ever really in the house. Those are probably all the divorces that took place later. And I just now googled a graph and that's sure what it looks like.

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    I don't know that source but many looked similar. So it was level before women working. And now level after. With just that rise while women were entering the workforce. So those were all probably bullshit relationships to begin with. Tradition as in Donna Reed probably was bullshit. So I have to wonder if that only existed for TV back then and for today's revisionism and horseshit critiques of where we are supposedly evolving. That the family structure has been in any way harmed. These numbers don't, by themselves, show me damage.
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    Dec 30, 2014 2:35 AM GMT
    ^^ You better watch it man. You aren't toeing the PC correct party line.
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    Dec 31, 2014 10:31 PM GMT
    Are you saying that all those episodes of "Leave it to Beaver" was just bullshit? Wow. I learn something new every day.
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    Jan 01, 2015 8:25 PM GMT
    I understand your point, but I think you maybe missed the first part of KissTheSky's quote. He stipulates "when they use OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE TO BASH non-traditional families..."


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    KissTheSky saidSomething the conservatives don't seem to realize is that when they use offensive language to bash non-traditional families, they are insulting the majority of Americans.


    I don't see how supporting the traditional family insults those who are not in traditional families. Do children of divorced parents feel that it is better or equal that their parents got divorced? That seems silly. I think everyone wants to grow up with a tight-knit family unit. No child wants his single mother working 24/7 to earn enough to support her family and therefore hardly see her and hardly ever to spend time with her.

    This is not to mention the financial and educational and emotional and spiritual advantages and support that naturally come with having 2 spouses and a stable family environment. By every social science metric, kids do better growing up in "traditional families" than "non-traditional families".


  • HottJoe

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    Jan 01, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
    Hm, my mom desperately wants my husband and me to adopt children.icon_neutral.gif God, I hope my lesbian sister takes care of providing her with grandchildren soon.icon_rolleyes.gif

    But that's just me.icon_confused.gif

    If gay people want to become parents then they should not let traditional families stop them.icon_cool.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 03, 2015 5:44 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidHm, my mom desperately wants my husband and me to adopt children.icon_neutral.gif God, I hope my lesbian sister takes care of providing her with grandchildren soon.icon_rolleyes.gif

    But that's just me.icon_confused.gif

    If gay people want to become parents then they should not let traditional families stop them.icon_cool.gif
    You raise kidsicon_question.gif With your marijuana addition and your wacky leftist ideology and abnormally goofy viewpointsicon_exclaim.gif God help us allicon_razz.gif