Is there a difference between organic and non-organic beans? (srs)

  • infinitefrien...

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    Jan 01, 2015 12:40 AM GMT
    From a health perspective.

    Would appreciate a real answer instead of the typical 'one is organic and the other is not'.

    Thanks
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    Jan 01, 2015 12:43 AM GMT
    The farts produced from non-organic beans can be toxic to people in the area. But the farts produced from organic beans can spontaneously combust and burn down the house. Or at least char the tablecloth.
  • metta

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    Jan 02, 2015 3:34 AM GMT
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  • metta

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    Jan 02, 2015 3:35 AM GMT
    From an environmental perspective. Using less chemicals helps to protect groundwater, wildlife, and hopefully make it less dangerous (not including possible physical injuries) for farmers/laborers to work in the fields.
  • BmwKid92

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    Jan 02, 2015 3:46 AM GMT
    your mind is all over the place kitten with a flower
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    Jan 02, 2015 4:30 AM GMT
    metta8 saidFrom an environmental perspective. Using less chemicals helps to protect groundwater, wildlife, and hopefully make it less dangerous (not including possible physical injuries) for farmers/laborers to work in the fields.


    False. And a false premise. The chemicals approved by the "organic" scammers are more toxic than the ones used by rational farmers and many of them do not degrade. They stay in the soil forever. And the amount applied is thousands if times more than the amount used by rational farmers. I work with this stuff every day. (AND my Ph.D. work was in measuring the fate of chemicals in soil.)

    The "organic" scammers base their judgement on how much money they get paid in kickbacks and "how scary the names sound." Which, ironically, means that they don't approve organic chemicals because the names "sound scary" to retards.
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    Jan 02, 2015 8:10 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidbecause the names "sound scary" to retards.

    Same with my irritation with how people get freaked out about hydrocolloid food additives that are natural but have scary sounding names. For example, carrageenan is found in dairy products and it's made from seaweed, xanthan gum is some bacteria they grow on wheat or corn. I had a coworker who was freaked out when she heard that a brand of yogurt had tapioca in it; tapioca comes from the cassava root.
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    Jan 02, 2015 10:24 PM GMT
    infinitefriend9 saidFrom a health perspective.

    Would appreciate a real answer instead of the typical 'one is organic and the other is not'.

    Thanks


    Uh, from a "health perspective" or any other perspective, ALL beans are organic. Organic means that the compound is made up of chemicals based on the Carbon atom, as contrasted "inorganic," all other compounds not so based (such as stainless steel, porcelain, salts, etc.) Thus, all living things-plant or animal-are organic, so whether you should be eating them or not has little to do with their "organicness".

    The touchy-feely foodie set misappropriated the term "organic" about 45 years ago or so and started ignorantly calling plants grown where the farmer only pissed on the plant to kill the bugs because that was "natural" as being organic and better for you. Today, we have more than a cottage industry based on this nonsense about some food being non-organic. Hello??? Anyone home upstairs???
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 02, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
    I eat a bean/battery hybrid. It's good for fiber, antioxidants, and I can see in the dark without a flashlight.
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    Jan 02, 2015 10:44 PM GMT
    Sulla said
    infinitefriend9 saidFrom a health perspective.

    Would appreciate a real answer instead of the typical 'one is organic and the other is not'.

    Thanks


    Uh, from a "health perspective" or any other perspective, ALL beans are organic. Organic means that the compound is made up of chemicals based on the Carbon atom, as contrasted "inorganic," all other compounds not so based (such as stainless steel, porcelain, salts, etc.) Thus, all living things-plant or animal-are organic, so whether you should be eating them or not has little to do with their "organicness".

    The touchy-feely foodie set misappropriated the term "organic" about 45 years ago or so and started ignorantly calling plants grown where the farmer only pissed on the plant to kill the bugs because that was "natural" as being organic and better for you. Today, we have more than a cottage industry based on this nonsense about some food being non-organic. Hello??? Anyone home upstairs???


    Well, actually "organic" means, more or less "from life," and when early chemists discovered that carbon-containing chemicals were like stuff found in living organisms and vice verse, they started calling those "organic compounds." What the froot-loops mean by it is never actually defined, except with a string of meaningless buzz-words and nonsense phrases. Empirical observation would suggest that the only thing it means to them is "you have to pay me money to use that wurd!"
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 02, 2015 10:46 PM GMT
    mindgarden said
    Sulla said
    infinitefriend9 saidFrom a health perspective.

    Would appreciate a real answer instead of the typical 'one is organic and the other is not'.

    Thanks


    Uh, from a "health perspective" or any other perspective, ALL beans are organic. Organic means that the compound is made up of chemicals based on the Carbon atom, as contrasted "inorganic," all other compounds not so based (such as stainless steel, porcelain, salts, etc.) Thus, all living things-plant or animal-are organic, so whether you should be eating them or not has little to do with their "organicness".

    The touchy-feely foodie set misappropriated the term "organic" about 45 years ago or so and started ignorantly calling plants grown where the farmer only pissed on the plant to kill the bugs because that was "natural" as being organic and better for you. Today, we have more than a cottage industry based on this nonsense about some food being non-organic. Hello??? Anyone home upstairs???


    Well, actually "organic" means, more or less "from life," and when early chemists discovered that carbon-containing chemicals were like stuff found in living organisms and vice verse, they started calling those "organic compounds." What the froot-loops mean by it is never actually defined, except with a string of meaningless buzz-words and nonsense phrases. Empirical observation would suggest that the only thing it means to them is "you have to pay me money to use that wurd!"

    This isn't the full story. Non organic seeds can be patented, which makes them legally different, of not scientifically different.
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    Jan 02, 2015 11:09 PM GMT
    Um... no. You can patent (or try to patent) any new plant variety. Whether or not you've paid the scammers to call it "organic" has nothing to do with patentability.