Biological bad luck blamed in two-thirds of cancer cases

  • metta

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    Jan 02, 2015 9:06 PM GMT
    Biological bad luck blamed in two-thirds of cancer cases


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/biological-bad-luck-blamed-in-two-thirds-of-cancer-cases/ar-BBhqxBi?ocid=anshlthreu11
  • bobbobbob

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    Jan 03, 2015 6:16 AM GMT
    Finally they are being honest about it.

    One of my neighbors of 12 years is a oncologist and has been diplomatic about saying that.

    I doubt we've heard the last of this.
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    Jan 03, 2015 3:13 PM GMT
    It's important to say that it claims on "two thirds" of cancer types.

    Different cancer types (stomach, ovary, throat, skin, and a long etc...) vary a lot in incidence (for example blood cancer happens less often than skin cancer)

    So "two thirds" of different cancer types is not equal to "two thirds" of all cancer cases! - just because some types are way more common than others.

    Also, some cancer types are far more complicated and destructive than others (skin=easy, pancreas=awful)

    Anyways, if you live in the USA, the prostate-breast-lung-colon is the worst risk combo because of their cancer frequency and complication danger.

    This full combo was, it turns out, either in the "remaining third" of non-random cancers, or in the "non-analysed" data set of this study!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30641833
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    Jan 04, 2015 6:41 AM GMT
    rodo saidIt's important to say that it claims on "two thirds" of cancer types.

    Different cancer types (stomach, ovary, throat, skin, and a long etc...) vary a lot in incidence (for example blood cancer happens less often than skin cancer)

    So "two thirds" of different cancer types is not equal to "two thirds" of all cancer cases! - just because some types are way more common than others.

    Also, some cancer types are far more complicated and destructive than others (skin=easy, pancreas=awful)

    Anyways, if you live in the USA, the prostate-breast-lung-colon is the worst risk combo because of their cancer frequency and complication danger.

    This full combo was, it turns out, either in the "remaining third" of non-random cancers, or in the "non-analysed" data set of this study!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30641833


    Interesting and important differentiation.
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    Jan 05, 2015 2:31 PM GMT
    There were many cancers and ailments in the past that they couldn't explain, but now they can. It's probably the best they can say right now. In a few years they may find that there are other factors that predisposed these cancers. The effects of electromagnetic radiation, plastics, low dose pesticides and herbicides, antibiotic residues in food, fluoridation, chlorination, radiation accumulation, and the list goes on.

    Who knows, but I'm sure the scientific community will not solely rely on this study. There will be those that will always be searching for reasons. Unfortunately I know the public reads the headlines and puts the wrong slant on study.
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    Jan 05, 2015 3:04 PM GMT
    rodo said
    Anyways, if you live in the USA, the prostate-breast-lung-colon is the worst risk combo because of their cancer frequency and complication danger.

    This full combo was, it turns out, either in the "remaining third" of non-random cancers, or in the "non-analysed" data set of this study!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30641833

    All pieces of a puzzle, but I don't think the complete cancer picture has emerged yet. The danger to the general public is that they'll read the summarized findings of studies like this, that layman can misinterpret and misapply to themselves.

    "Well, if two-thirds of cancer is merely bad luck, the natural odds being stacked against me, why should I be overly concerned with following a healthy lifestyle? My fate's already been determined." And people will think that way.

    My own oncologist told me that my prostate cancer DOES run in families, (my father had it before me), and I understand that's true for women's breast cancer, as well. That's not bad luck, that's genetic.

    And that understanding offers a useful red flag for people to be practicing early detection. And for many cancer types early detection and treatment can be extremely effective.