I'm Too Thin for my Age and Height- Advice on Gaining More Mass

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    Jan 05, 2015 3:29 AM GMT
    I just had a guy at a bar tell me I was cute but too slim after trying to strike up a conversation with him and while my initial reaction was "your loss" I can't help but think I am too thin.

    I'm wondering what the best way to gain a bit more muscle mass would be for an ectomorph? I've read doing cardio can make you loose weight and of course you need to eat more but loading up on meat may cause live/ kidney trouble down the road.

    Any advice. I'm probably am below my BMI and it's healthier long term to be more in balance I'm guessing.
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    Jan 05, 2015 3:42 AM GMT
    Just a preliminary question: Does your doctor say that you are "too thin?" Or just assholes?
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    Jan 05, 2015 4:48 AM GMT

    At 6'5, you normally should be about 200 lbs, that is probably without a muscle build. One problem I always had being young and thin was I could not afford to eat the required amount of calories to gain weight, (at the time I was told by a trainer I needed 3,500 cal a day) along with genetics, you may either have to wait until your metabolism slows down (could be not until 40) or if you can afford to eat like Michael Phelps, then try his diet while you work out, I know how hard it is, been there, wish you well


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    Jan 05, 2015 4:53 AM GMT
    I have been thinking of putting on a bit more mass for a a few years but when this guy mentioned it struck a chord... IDK. I'm healthy by all other accounts though according to my doctor.

    scruffLA said
    At 6'5, you normally should be about 200 lbs, that is probably without a muscle build. One problem I always had being young and thin was I could not afford to eat the required amount of calories to gain weight, (at the time I was told by a trainer I needed 3,500 cal a day) along with genetics, you may either have to wait until your metabolism slows down (could be not until 40) or if you can afford to eat like Michael Phelps, then try his diet while you work out, I know how hard it is, been there, wish you well


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    I'm aiming for 165- 170lbs. But 4,000 calories per day? icon_eek.gif That's a bit much... I have a fast metabolism but I'm not sure that's very healthy to eat like that everyday.
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    Jan 05, 2015 5:16 AM GMT
    Erobert saidI have been thinking of putting on a bit more mass for a a few years but when this guy mentioned it struck a chord... IDK. I'm healthy by all other accounts though according to my doctor.

    scruffLA said
    At 6'5, you normally should be about 200 lbs, that is probably without a muscle build. One problem I always had being young and thin was I could not afford to eat the required amount of calories to gain weight, (at the time I was told by a trainer I needed 3,500 cal a day) along with genetics, you may either have to wait until your metabolism slows down (could be not until 40) or if you can afford to eat like Michael Phelps, then try his diet while you work out, I know how hard it is, been there, wish you well


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    I'm aiming for 165- 170lbs. But 4,000 calories per day? icon_eek.gif That's a bit much... I have a fast metabolism but I'm not sure that's very healthy to eat like that everyday.



    Well then don't complain that you are too thin. Michael Phelps is 6'4 and 195 and he has to eat like this in order to maintain this weight for his height while training. So yes, 4,000 calories per day while you work out, you have to take your height into account of your BMI, that is how BMI is calculated. 6ft BMI, without muscle mass, is low, 170 lbs- high 180 lbs. You are 6'5, you should weigh as much as Phelps. And he really isn't "muscular" by any means. You first must be able to gain extra weight before it turns to muscle

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    Jan 05, 2015 6:09 AM GMT
    Phelps diet is irrelevant. He burns that many calories in a day.

    Note that the chart lists 4000 calories per meal. That's 12000 per day!
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    Jan 05, 2015 6:13 AM GMT
    You gotta lift hard and eat more.
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    Jan 05, 2015 6:17 AM GMT
    scruffLA said
    At 6'5, you normally should be about 200 lbs, that is probably without a muscle build. One problem I always had being young and thin was I could not afford to eat the required amount of calories to gain weight, (at the time I was told by a trainer I needed 3,500 cal a day) along with genetics, you may either have to wait until your metabolism slows down (could be not until 40) or if you can afford to eat like Michael Phelps, then try his diet while you work out, I know how hard it is, been there, wish you well


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    That's one version. I read another article where he listed his diet during his Olympic training. Part of his diet included eating entire large pizzas. icon_eek.gif
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    Jan 05, 2015 3:13 PM GMT
    OP, you have to accept that, at your height, current weight and body type, you will NEVER be muscular. The amount of mass you would need to gain, just to reach a lanky, swimmer like muscularity, would make any 5'10 look like a monster. To actually look mesomorphic -- and by no means big -- you would have to gain somewhere close to 100lbs. This is not attainable naturally. What's more attainable naturally is somewhere around 30lbs, which will look like nothing on someone of your stature.

    Bottomline: accept that you will be thin forever. If you don't accept it, fine, but do know that this implies chemical assistance.
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    Jan 05, 2015 3:38 PM GMT
    Don't feel bad.. Im almost 52 and im 6-4 155... About same as you. Been that way all my life. I do have a gym membership and do workout. Im mostly toned up and my legs still look like twigs below the knees. When I was still in HS, I was 6-3 125... So I guess Ive only gained about 30 lbs over 30 yrs. Which most if not all of it was from daily activity and working out.
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    Jan 05, 2015 4:17 PM GMT
    It is really hard (and expensive) to eat healthy and lean and gain mass if you're an ectomorph. I think the best way is just to add more protein and the best way to do that cheaply is protein powder and water. Add a couple of protein drinks to your day and especially right after working out. Find one that is about 40 grams and less than 100 calories per drink. You also need some carbs and healthy fats but if your diet is generally thoughtful you can get that there. And hit the gym a lot. I go almost every day, usually about 6pm which is easy to do because seldom is there a scheduling conflict. That delays dinner to later than optimum but I eat healthy meat and veggies only for dinner and all carbs and fats are taken earlier.
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    Jan 05, 2015 5:46 PM GMT
    Erobert saidI just had a guy at a bar tell me I was cute but too slim after trying to strike up a conversation with him and while my initial reaction was "your loss" I can't help but think I am too thin.

    I'm wondering what the best way to gain a bit more muscle mass would be for an ectomorph? I've read doing cardio can make you loose weight and of course you need to eat more but loading up on meat may cause live/ kidney trouble down the road.

    Any advice. I'm probably am below my BMI and it's healthier long term to be more in balance I'm guessing.

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    Jan 05, 2015 7:21 PM GMT
    if you are going for working out, try protein powders. it really works. 2 years back, when i was 19, i used it, for 4 months, i gained 10 kg extra.
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    Jan 05, 2015 10:30 PM GMT
    I can relate to being too thin. My body is just constantly trying to burn off whatever little gains i make. Even though it feels futile at times, I keep trying. I wont give up, but in the mean time I'm lucky so many guys out there are actually into slim guys like me.
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    Jan 05, 2015 11:33 PM GMT
    randy406 saidif you are going for working out, try protein powders. it really works. 2 years back, when i was 19, i used it, for 4 months, i gained 10 kg extra.


    Unfortunately 10kg of lean mass will look like nothing on someone of OP's stature.
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    Jan 06, 2015 2:41 AM GMT
    ^

    OP will not look significantly different with 30+ lbs of lean mass. You are not short but if he had your stature it would be a lot easier for him.

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    Jan 06, 2015 4:08 AM GMT
    / Agree with that. For shorter guys it seems easier to gain weight and put of muscle mass. Taller guys, especially at my height, mass is elongated (not the right word really but hopefully some can imagine what I'm talking about) At least that's my theory for how height plays into gaining muscle.

    Although, I'm as tall as some basketball players and many are muscular... Some could be taking steroids though.

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    Jan 06, 2015 4:50 AM GMT
    ^
    Your bucket will fill as fast as anybody else's, but because your bucket is so large, it will always look emptier than smaller buckets which have as much water as yours.
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    Jan 06, 2015 7:47 AM GMT
    Glad someone pointed out ol" Phleps eats 12,000 KCals a day while training not 4K. Not much in the way of fruits and vegies or high quality protein either(?)
    One would think that also means a lot of time in the outhouse??? Eat 3-4x more than the avg man, and... well...

    Enjoy being slim. Tell anyone who doesn't like it to piss up a rope. Not likely you'll be a type II diabetic w/your build unless your diet is a mess(?). Blood lipids look good? Blood pressure? RBC/white count and ALT/AST in range? All respond to less body fat. You've probably got them all nailed.

    If you gain weight your cloths wont fit either.

    A dear friend and long ago ex is 6'10" and is currently 185lbs. He was 175 lbs, when we were together 20 years ago. Loved that bod and he's quite happy w/his current partner and life and visa versa w/partner.
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    Jan 06, 2015 5:32 PM GMT
    You're 6'5, and 160. I was once too tall, too skinny. (6'2, 165). I wanted to start on the water polo team. The coach knew I needed to bulk up and he put me on a program of weights (low numbers of reps, increasing the weights) and diet changes. He had me eating lots more protein. Big breakfasts, eggs, ham, solid hunks of tuna, blender drinks with protein powder, desicated liver powder). Lots of lunch and dinner. Just low carbs. No cookies, no pasta. Anyway - with intense work outs and increased eating, I did it - over a summer. I built my body and sculpted it up to 180 pounds of solid muscle. You CAN do it!