New California Law Aims To Help Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender-Owned Businesses

  • metta

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    Jan 05, 2015 7:17 AM GMT
    New California Law Aims To Help Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender-Owned Businesses

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/01/02/new-california-law-aims-to-help-lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-owned-businesses/
  • wesv

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    Jan 05, 2015 3:35 PM GMT
    That's pretty interesting. I have a friend who would totally support that. He lives in WeHo and prefers to go to the actual gay-owned businessss there. His argument is that his money should go back to the community.

    I wonder if protecting gay-owned businesses would someday help make a nationwide gay chain spread. Like a restaurant chain owned by gays.
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    Jan 05, 2015 5:05 PM GMT
    in a time gays are getting assimilated into society?
    most gay men's gay agenda extends only as far them selves and their current lay.
    gay men, especially those my age, really suffer form a Peter Pan theme; they refuse to grow up, over the top emotions.
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    Jan 05, 2015 5:35 PM GMT
    pellaz saidin a time gays are getting assimilated into society?
    most gay men's gay agenda extends only as far them selves and their current lay.
    gay men, especially those my age, really suffer form a Peter Pan theme; they refuse to grow up, over the top emotions.

    Please note that this is a pre-existing broad-based effort that helps many people, like disabled military veterans, not just LGBT and "their current lay". The change in California has been to add LGBT to this law.

    Minority efforts like these have existed for decades. What is happening now is the LGBT are being welcome, too. My husband & I will be attending a "Mack Planet" luncheon in Fort Lauderdale tomorrow (Tue) that helps LGBT business people to network.

    But, about 1/3 of the attendees are straight, and many of the businesses represented are straight, too. Or simply have no orientation, catering to everyone.

    Because the straight community wants our money. It's isn't just gays isolating ourselves, but rather a 2-way street. Ways by which we're "boot-strapping" to get positive visibility, to overcome the prejudices and exclusions that straights had been imposing on us.

    We also have "AVER" active here (American Veterans for Equal Rights), "WIN" (Women in Networking), "SAGE" (Seniors Active in a Gay Environment), and other groups with a gay focus, some political. Groups and actions like these are exactly how you DO achieve acceptance, integration, and equal rights.
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    Jan 05, 2015 6:18 PM GMT
    Count me skeptical and cynical about these sorts of laws. They just create useless bureaucracy and waste without really benefiting anybody.

    It has been a long time since I had to worry about it, but there used to be some sort of official certificate that you needed to be an official minority-owned business. In order to survive, pretty much every company that did any sort of government contracting had to get one of these certificates, usually by transferring ownership through wives (who may or may not have actually been involved in the business) or some other sort of figurehead angle.

    So, will small business owners just have to open a Grindr account to get their rubber stamp? Or will they have to show proof of penetration? Maybe an Xtube video or two on their resume? I'm sensing both business and recreational opportunities there icon_razz.gif

    During the Clinton era, I wurked for a GoCo. First there were quotas, but then the Word Came Down from On High. ALL (100%) of procurements had to be from official minority businesses. The problem was that the stuff that I needed was highly technical supplies and services, (in addition to some more mundane stuff like office supplies.) There simply wasn't any place to buy them. Even if you could find a woman-owned shop, she didn't have her Official Certificate.

    So what happened was a dozen lawyers set up sham businesses in town with a minority woman figurehead. They took our orders and turned around and relayed the order to legitimate businesses. It added a couple of weeks (more) delay to everything we did and they were allowed IIRC a 17% mark-up. It would have been a lot more efficient to just give cash to those lawyers directly and leave us out of it. I'm sure the figureheads weren't getting much more than a secretary's pay.

    I remember one summer, my work was pretty much shut down over a silly thing like running out of laboratory reagents. At first, I thought I'd made a mistake - I ordered a jar of ammonium chloride and (eventually) received a jar of sodium chloride (cheap table salt.) Eventually I realized that a bunch of my orders were getting changed - potassium chloride, ammonium chloride, molybdenum chloride, no matter what I was ordering, I just got sodium chloride (and similar problems.) When I finally got through to the Official Minority Woman on the phone, her response was, "What difference does it make which brand of chloride we send you?" icon_mad.gificon_eek.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    By the time I left, there were some ominous rumblings in the system over some pretty large construction projects that were contracted to a real, but tiny Native American owned contractor. Of course, they subcontracted all the actual work to large companies, but were really in way over their heads when things started to to wrong.
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    Jan 05, 2015 10:47 PM GMT
    Another stupid law. How would the state verify if one is gay? Are they going to issue gay cards?
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    Jan 09, 2015 5:19 AM GMT
    Attention Liberals: Equal Rights doesn't mean giving sig's (special interest groups) more rights than others.

    Try working instead of depending on some handout.