Plastic Surgery?

  • BloodFlame

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    Jan 06, 2015 4:41 AM GMT
    Plastic surgery is definitely a mixed topic but I'm just genuinely curious. What do you think about it?

    I personally think that if the person can afford it and wants to have, they have the right to. They certainly need to know that there is risk that it could go either way (favorable or unfavorably).

    I feel that it's a double edged sword however because when someone who is considered "ugly" in the face, decides to try to do something about it, they are then thought to be horrible people for changing their face. I honestly don't get that. I'm aware that there are some disaster stories like the infamous "Cat lady", Jocelyn Wildenstein and similar but they seem to be rare cases of getting way too much.

    But anyway, what are your thoughts on Plastic Surgery?
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    Jan 06, 2015 4:47 AM GMT
    I think is fine for people to want to look good, I guess they want to seek that acceptance that the social culture demands sometimes. What is bad is when the person gets obsessed and does not stop getting surgeries after getting the first one, and I know a lot of people like that
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    Jan 06, 2015 4:55 AM GMT
    Small surgeries in my opinion are fine (nose job, tummy tuck etc), it's just when people try to change their whole face or get addicted (as with any addiction) is when it can become an issue which may impact their physical or mental health.

    I always like to think too much of anything isn't too good.
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    Jan 06, 2015 5:07 AM GMT
    think or feel it is fine as long as you don't have horrible self esteem/dismorphia issues--no amount of surgery will change the way you truly see yourself.
  • BloodFlame

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    Jan 06, 2015 5:24 AM GMT
    I agree with you guys generally. Little things are fine and can make a difference but when you go overboard, that's when it starts to look very weird.

    However, I did come across a rather interesting surgery. This Brazilian man had 10 plastic surgeries to look Korean. I didn't know something like this was possible.

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    Jan 06, 2015 5:42 AM GMT
    Dunno. If I could slip some cash to my younger self, I'd subsidize getting the crooked teeth and the crooked toes straightened out. But that's about as far as I'd let him go. Except to set him straight about nutrition and exercise.

    Maybe in the future we will have more control over our appearance and maybe it will even be reversible. I hope that people use the power to choose unique expressions, rather than grotesque homogeneity.
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    Jan 06, 2015 11:39 AM GMT
    I don't see any problem with having plastic surgery as long as it's not in excess (like anything really). You can't judge somebody for wanting to change or fix something about themselves especially when you don't know the reasons why. Live and let live right?
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    Jan 06, 2015 12:30 PM GMT
    Plastic surgery is misunderstood and much aligned. First of all only 1/3 of the plastic surgery done in the USA is cosmetic. The rest is reconstructive after trauma orAh. Evening shift. Nice. That way you always have mornings for groceries and gym. But you can still sleep at night cancer.
    Second, plastic surgeons can only do so much. And they won't do whatever you ask them to do. Plastic surgery doesn't make you 'fake' anymore than getting a paint job for your car makes it a fake car. It's merely giving the best version of yourself/the car. If you get a face lift it's still you. Just a younger looking you.
  • 24hourguy

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    Jan 06, 2015 3:10 PM GMT
    I'm for it! -saving for lower eye blepharoplasty -hopefully this year! tired of looking tired!
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    Jan 06, 2015 3:53 PM GMT
    I am going to get shoulder pad implants and eyeballs tattooed onto My eyelids so that when I pass out at parties everyone will still think I am awake.

    Anything else just seems frivolous.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 06, 2015 4:14 PM GMT
    Cash saidI am going to get shoulder pad implants and eyeballs tattooed onto My eyelids so that when I pass out at parties everyone will still think I am awake.

    Anything else just seems frivolous.

    I want triceratops cheek bones to match my belt.icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 06, 2015 4:44 PM GMT
    I'm not doing it. But if someone else wants to that is their decision
  • venue35

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    Jan 06, 2015 4:51 PM GMT
    it depends..some hollywood actresses have gone overboard
    Melanie Griffith , Meg Ryan look so different these days.
    I think if you eat right and take care ofyourself by exercising , all you will need after 40 is a little botox and rystalene. Faye Dunaway had a bad facelift and lets not forget Joan Rivers who at 80 looked like Lucy Liu.
    Oh and Michael Jackson my god. That pooricon_cry.gif nose
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    Jan 06, 2015 5:09 PM GMT
    human nature is to self modify.

    There is a low 3-5% probability of initial failure in any surgery.

    not likely the surgery will hold up over time, say 20-30years?
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    Jan 06, 2015 5:29 PM GMT
    I've never seen it not look weird, if not right away, then eventually.

    And I've seen it done by the so-called best. The most bizarre that I'll never forget was a lady so dripping in money that she had diamonds screwed into her finger nails. Granted that she had a beautiful face. So youthful. But it did not match her 80something year old body. If you want to make of yourself as a beautiful work of art, Picasso maybe shouldn't be your first pick.

    I do enjoy the idea of having that option, but also I wonder if in twenty years or thirty years I'd want to see what I'd have looked like naturally and then I wouldn't have that option.

    So for someone disfigured in a car accident, I think it is wonderful. But ultimately for myself I don't like the idea of taking that option now which would deny me my option later.

    I'd be curious to see how many guys complain about being circumcised but then go get their nose done.
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    Jan 06, 2015 7:51 PM GMT
    I have no problem with people doing with they want to themselves and spending their own money to do it. Even if they "go overboard" they aren't hurting me. So, so the fuck what? Although, I do reserve the right to snicker behind their backs.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 06, 2015 8:12 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidI have no problem with people doing with they want to themselves and spending their own money to do it. Even if they "go overboard" they aren't hurting me. So, so the fuck what? Although, I do reserve the right to snicker behind their backs.

    Yeah, but think of the children. They're scared!icon_eek.gif
  • BloodFlame

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    Jan 06, 2015 8:37 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    UndercoverMan saidI have no problem with people doing with they want to themselves and spending their own money to do it. Even if they "go overboard" they aren't hurting me. So, so the fuck what? Although, I do reserve the right to snicker behind their backs.

    Yeah, but think of the children. They're scared!icon_eek.gif


    Maybe, but they were going to see it sooner or later lol.

    Here's another popular one that raised many eyebrows a few years back. Justin Jedica (aka "The Living Ken Doll") Pretty much got a big makeover.

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    And Valeria Lukyanova

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    I mean, I'm happy that they were able to achieve what they wanted but seems like a very painful procedure to have the whole body done. And I wonder if they'll be able to sustain these bodies in the next 20-30 years.
  • FRE0

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    Jan 06, 2015 9:20 PM GMT
    The fact that people have a right to have plastic surgery does not mean that it is always a reasonable thing to do. The most common type of plastic surgery is reconstructive. Surely it is reasonable to want to restore one's normal appearance after an accident. Also, some people are born with an anomalous appearance that is considered unattractive and which causes them social problems. Surely having that corrected is a reasonable thing to do.

    Having plastic surgery simply to look younger or more attractive is another matter. If people want to have it done and are willing to pay for it, they should be able to. However, accepting unnecessary surgical risks seems unwise.
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    Jan 06, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
    pazzy saidunnecessary cosmetic surgery is for folks with no confidence. shit is cringeworthy. what is the point? all of that wouldn't be necessary if you have confidence and accept yourself. the only time i think that shit is appropriate is let's say... someone got burned badly where they need skin grafts or lost their nose or their nose got torn off or something of that nature where it would make sense for them to get surgery to fix that. then that person has a reason for it then. other than that, if someone is just doing that shit because they hate their face or can't stand their arms or titties... sad shit. all that money should go towards counseling or seeing a shrink to figure out where the self hate is coming from where they would alter themselves in that nature.


    yes.

    um, wasn't there a thread exactly about this subject made not too long ago?



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    SEXY.
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    Jan 06, 2015 11:04 PM GMT
    being a human Barbie is like the ultimate Russian/Korean dream nowadays.

    they're going crazy with that shit.


  • madsexy

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    Jan 06, 2015 11:30 PM GMT
    I won't suggest what I think of the self-esteem issues that go along with non-reconstructive plastic surgery (overhauls as my mother calls them). What I will say is that I know a guy (used to work with him) who had
    Cheekbones
    Chin
    Pec implants
    Ab sculpting
    Ass implants
    and you guessed what is coming
    Penis alteration which consisted of injections and cutting the ligament so he now points out and down when he is hard. It is probably the most unattractive penis I have ever seen (so we are talking a very wide sample population here!).

    His right? Absolutely.

    Good idea? Not even close.
  • Webster666

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    Jan 07, 2015 12:31 AM GMT
    A long time ago, I read that, if you hate some part of your looks badly enough, you should go ahead and have it changed.

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    Jan 07, 2015 1:15 AM GMT
    I'm getting older and I don't look as great as I did in my 20's or 30's. I might consider getting something done in the next few years. I'd need assurances that I wouldn't end up like Bruce Jenner:
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    Jan 07, 2015 1:43 AM GMT
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    Restylane (injections) might be the answer for me some day. I know three people who've had this done, and they're about seven to ten years older than I am. They all look great - like 20 years younger than they are - and natural, healthy, just really great. Only catch: It has to be redone about every 3 to 4 months, I'm told. Still - - - better than surgery, I'm thinking.