Are Saunas the Next Big Performance-Enhancing “Drug”?

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    Jan 09, 2015 12:19 AM GMT
    What guy? It's a female doctor.http://youtu.be/aHOlM-wlNjM



    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/05/24/sauna-benefits.aspx
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    Jan 09, 2015 12:52 AM GMT
    It's interesting to hear a scientific explanation for the benefits of sauna. I already knew decades ago, from my own experience, that sauna helped me perform better physically. And that my muscle recovery after exercise was improved, too.

    What is not mentioned in this article is protection from head colds. Except for a general reference to viruses & infection:

    "Furthermore, viruses and toxin-laden cells are weaker than normal cells and tolerate heat poorly, so raising your body temperature helps heal infections quicker."

    What I found, and I realize this is subjective, is that my winter head colds, and especially my chronic sinus problems, were greatly reduced with regular sauna use. Other sources I've read on the subject claim that the cause of many head colds, the rhinovirus, cannot survive much above 105° F. And that breathing the hot sauna air can kill those viruses.
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    Jan 09, 2015 1:30 AM GMT
    "Give me a fever, and I can cure any illness." -- Hippocrates
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    Jan 09, 2015 1:34 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said.. scientific explanation ...


    Check the URL - a well known quack. icon_rolleyes.gif
    For example, this guy also claims, that AIDS is psychosomatic.
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    Jan 09, 2015 1:37 AM GMT
    Dang. The only sauna I've been to was at a Turkish bath in Budapest, and the only reason why I haven't again gone to one is because I go to a pretty gay gym and the sauna here are full of creeps.
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    Jan 09, 2015 3:43 AM GMT
    I enjoy sauna, and I don't mind creeps. It's very relaxing and energizing. During winter, I go to sauna almost every day.
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    Jan 09, 2015 5:03 AM GMT
    Mercola? What's next, advice from Dr. Oz?
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    Jan 09, 2015 5:15 AM GMT
    mindgarden said
    Art_Deco said.. scientific explanation ...


    Check the URL - a well known quack. icon_rolleyes.gif
    For example, this guy also claims, that AIDS is psychosomatic.

    Ah, thank you, I didn't know that.

    But I'll stand by my own statements, based on my own experiences, and what I read decades ago. I'm a sauna fan, and have read & owned a number of books on the topic.

    And quack or not, at least some of the things he said mirror multiple other sources.
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    Jan 09, 2015 5:49 AM GMT
    mindgarden said
    Art_Deco said.. scientific explanation ...


    Check the URL - a well known quack. icon_rolleyes.gif
    For example, this guy also claims, that AIDS is psychosomatic.


    What guy? It's a female doctor.http://youtu.be/aHOlM-wlNjM
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    Jan 09, 2015 3:18 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI may have to try this.

    of course you do.
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    Jan 09, 2015 3:45 PM GMT
    I used to get flue infections for months. Someone said the sauna helps if you have a lung infection. I never tried it because:

    a) couldnt bring my self to dose up enough acetaminophen to prevent coughing
    b) thought at the time it was a social bad to possibly spread disease they my body was struggling with for months.

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    Jan 09, 2015 3:50 PM GMT
    pellaz saidI used to get flue infections for months. Someone said the sauna helps if you have a lung infection. I never tried it because:

    a) couldnt bring my self to dose up enough acetaminophen to prevent coughing
    b) thought at the time it was a social bad to possibly spread disease they my body was struggling with for months.


    Yeah, it's good that you avoided the sauna when you're sick. A little bit of cough or leaky nose is fine, but when someone is suffering from an infectious disease, they should avoid sauna like they would avoid any other public places.
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    Jan 09, 2015 3:52 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidCheck the URL - a well known quack...


    yes it a quack:
    ck the wiki(Mercola AIDS)

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola



    QUACK
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    Jan 09, 2015 3:54 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI may have to try this.

    Good. And I have a few reasons for promoting saunas. I truly think they can be beneficial to guys, especially for those engaged in athletic activities. But public saunas can be difficult to find in the US, and many are in rather poor condition.

    Demand for them might help change that, with more being installed in gyms, and hotels. That would benefit me personally, because the lack of good saunas when I use gyms and travel is something I wish was corrected.
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    Jan 09, 2015 6:43 PM GMT
    pellaz saidI used to get flue infections for months. Someone said the sauna helps if you have a lung infection. I never tried it because:

    a) couldnt bring my self to dose up enough acetaminophen to prevent coughing
    b) thought at the time it was a social bad to possibly spread disease they my body was struggling with for months.



    I went to a banya ( Russian sauna) and they had a steam room
    with euclalyptus in the steam and that really cleaned out my sinuses. I also was beaten with birch branches but that's another story.
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    Jan 09, 2015 7:05 PM GMT
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    I went to a banya ( Russian sauna) and they had a steam room
    with euclalyptus in the steam
    and that really cleaned out my sinuses. I also was beaten with birch branches but that's another story.

    I've used US steam rooms that added menthol to the steam, which was automatically temperature controlled. It was lovely, like sitting inside a giant Vicks vaporizer.

    It was the best thing in winter months, especially if you did have some nose or chest congestion. I alternated with a sauna, which I used almost exclusively in the summer. Some saunas placed aromatic woods on the rocks, for a pleasant scent.
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    Jan 09, 2015 7:21 PM GMT
    Be careful how often you hit the sauna or steam room; too much time in either fosters the formation of kidney stones, which are EXTREMELY painful and can affect both young and old.
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    Jan 09, 2015 8:28 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    mindgarden said
    Art_Deco said.. scientific explanation ...
    Check the URL - a well known quack. icon_rolleyes.gif
    For example, this guy also claims, that AIDS is psychosomatic.
    What guy? It's a female doctor.   http://youtu.be/aHOlM-wlNjM

    Rhonda Patrick, the "sensei of biohacking"? That was good for a laugh.
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    Jan 09, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
    It is rare to find a true sauna in America, especially in gyms where they proclaim to have an oxymoronic "dry sauna." The sauna is Finnish, where in a natural wood room stones are heated up on a sauna stove, traditionally a wood-burning stove. The proper ritual involves remaining in the sauna for a sufficiently long time until the body is heated to the point of desiring relief. The skin will be quite dry. At this point, a ladle of water from the bucket of water in the sauna is taken and splashed over the stones, which instantly converts the water to this magnificent rush of steam throughout the sauna and immediately induces a great pore-cleaning sweat on those in the sauna. At some point in this process one is also traditionally beaten with the birch branches (not a completely necessary part, btw). The birch switching produces a slightly stinging sensation on the skin. Then, comes the hardest part to replicate in America, but delicious when one can: one exits the sauna, goes outside, and rolls in the fresh snow, which produces a refreshing tingling all over the body. (About the best one can often do in America is to plunge into the gym's preferably unheated swimming pool.) At this point, one then retreats back to the sauna for additional cycles. All of this is done naked, too.

    A steam room is not a sauna, nor is a Turkish Bath. Those are separate and also enjoyable experiences. Nor are these oxymoronic "dry saunas" which forbid the use water to produce the steam cycle.

    The sauna experience could well have health benefits, both from deep natural cleaning of the pores of the skin to killing germs lurking in the air passages of the body sensitive to elevated temperatures. It is also quite relaxing. In any event, it sure feels invigorating.
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    Jan 09, 2015 8:56 PM GMT
    Reminds me of when I was in Finland. Our tour guide was teasing us from the US for pronouncing it as saw-na while in Finland it's pronounced sow-na. So if you're ever in Finland looking for a sauna, remember to pronounce it correctly.
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    Jan 09, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
    Sulla said (About the best one can often do in America is to plunge into the gym's preferably unheated swimming pool.) At this point, one then retreats back to the sauna for additional cycles. All of this is done naked, too.

    Because of the limitations at US public sauna locations (for instance, no more male-only swimming pools, so a naked plunge is out), I have developed my own mens sauna routine.

    I sit for about 10-12 minutes in the heat, then I go for a cold shower for roughly 3 minutes. I return to the heat for another 12 minutes, then shower again. I return for a final heat session, and then a long shower, warming up the water a little as I cool down. The whole process takes about 45-50 minutes.

    Then I sit in the locker room for a while longer, or the mens lounge if they have one. I take my time, to make sure my heart rate is down and my body has cooled and I'm not sweating before I put my clothes back on.

    It's no doubt a routine that causes younger guys to think some of us are "old creepers" because we don't get dressed immediately like they do. But being retired I'm in no similar hurry, I let my body set its own natural pace.
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    Jan 09, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidReminds me of when I was in Finland. Our tour guide was teasing us from the US for pronouncing it as saw-na while in Finland it's pronounced sow-na. So if you're ever in Finland looking for a sauna, remember to pronounce it correctly.


    ^Yes, indeed.
    It is one of the three essences of being Finnish. I can't recall the spelling of the third word, but the saying is "sisu, ________, and sauna"
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    Jan 09, 2015 11:42 PM GMT
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    pellaz saidI used to get flue infections for months. Someone said the sauna helps if you have a lung infection. I never tried it because:

    a) couldnt bring my self to dose up enough acetaminophen to prevent coughing
    b) thought at the time it was a social bad to possibly spread disease they my body was struggling with for months.



    I went to a banya ( Russian sauna) and they had a steam room
    with euclalyptus in the steam and that really cleaned out my sinuses. I also was beaten with birch branches but that's another story.

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    Jan 10, 2015 1:14 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidReminds me of when I was in Finland. Our tour guide was teasing us from the US for pronouncing it as saw-na while in Finland it's pronounced sow-na. So if you're ever in Finland looking for a sauna, remember to pronounce it correctly.

    My first introduction to Finnish sow-na was around 1960. I didn't take one, but saw one.

    I was with my parents at a house party. And the hosts were subjecting us to a typical ordeal of that era: the 35mm travel slide show, projected onto a big screen set up in their living room. I doubt many guys here remember that ritual.

    Finland was part of their itinerary, accompanied by another local couple who went with them. And there were slides of them in a Finnish sauna.

    Separate pics of the men & women, implying they weren't together, but all naked. Strategically covered only by birch branches they held. My 11-year-old eyes almost popped out of my head. I couldn't believe they showed those, and with other kids present.

    Along with slides of them rolling naked in the snow. No frontals, but it was still an eye-opener to a kid in 1960.

    Maybe that began my interest in sauna, I dunno. I haven't done a roll in the snow yet, certainly not in Florida now, but who knows?
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    Jan 10, 2015 1:31 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    I'm gonna try to go at least three to four times a week.

    Already planning on going Saturday and Sunday. icon_cool.gif

    As MGINSD said, don't overdo it. Moderation in all things. But it can be wonderful, can't it? icon_biggrin.gif