Muslim groups in Detroit donate $100,000 to help avoid water shutoffs for residents

  • metta

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    Jan 09, 2015 3:17 AM GMT
    Muslim groups in Detroit donate $100,000 to help avoid water shutoffs for residents


    The Michigan Muslim Community Council has partnered with Islamic Relief USA, the largest Muslim charity organization in the country, to help thousands of households at risk of having their water shut off.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/08/1356350/-Muslim-groups-in-Detroit-donate-100-000-to-help-avoid-water-shutoffs-for-residents
  • tj85016

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    Jan 09, 2015 5:55 PM GMT
    that's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in
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    Jan 09, 2015 7:03 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidthat's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in

    ^+1!
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    Jan 09, 2015 7:04 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidthat's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in


    I'll tell ya, I'm in Detroit often and in Dearborn Heights and Dearborn, almost nothing but.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 09, 2015 7:51 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    tj85016 saidthat's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in


    I'll tell ya, I'm in Detroit often and in Dearborn Heights and Dearborn, almost nothing but.

    Maybe you should reach out and be more neighborly, rather than make assumptions.
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    HottJoe said
    freedomisntfree said
    tj85016 saidthat's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in


    I'll tell ya, I'm in Detroit often and in Dearborn Heights and Dearborn, almost nothing but.

    Maybe you should reach out and be more neighborly, rather than make assumptions.


    I think you're making assuptions. I take EVERYONE as individuals until they prove to me otherwise. In fact, I'm very friendly and generally bring the best in folks.

    My california GP Dr. is black
    My friend who helped me the car restoration (very important thing in my life) is black, very black.
    My dentist is Japanese
    Eye Dr. is Japanese
    CPA is Iranian.
    My ex is a ricer.
    ex before that rice
    ex before that Mexican

    I'm not at all like so many lefties who I've known who by their behavior can be very racist.

  • HottJoe

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    Jan 09, 2015 8:13 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    HottJoe said
    freedomisntfree said
    tj85016 saidthat's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in


    I'll tell ya, I'm in Detroit often and in Dearborn Heights and Dearborn, almost nothing but.

    Maybe you should reach out and be more neighborly, rather than make assumptions.


    I think you're making assuptions. I take EVERYONE as individuals until they prove to me otherwise.

    My california GP Dr. is black
    My friend who helped me the car restoration (very important thing in my life) is black, very black.
    My dentist is Japanese
    Eye Dr. is Japanese
    CPA is Iranian.
    My ex is a ricer.
    ex before that rice
    ex before that Mexican

    I'm not at all like so many lefties who I've known who by their behavior can be very racist.


    That may be true -- we are the most diverse country, after all -- but you make racially divisive posts and use derogatory terms to describe Muslims. That is your behavior on RJ. I can imagine you're very different in person than you are online, but this is a place where you express your opinions, and we have very different opinions on these issues, to say the least.

    (But we're getting better at avoiding the name calling, don'tcha think?) icon_wink.gif
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 09, 2015 8:19 PM GMT
    Could it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.
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    Jan 09, 2015 8:30 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidthat's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in


    Spoken like Hitler.
    Your the scum bag. Trying to use the misrepresentation of a minority to represent the majority. Your type of people just hate and want to see anyone different from you suffer from prejudice and oppression.
    Trash like yourself is no different then the terrorists. Booth of you want to oppress and spread fear.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 09, 2015 8:31 PM GMT
    fuck all these recent muslim immigrant assholes. they don't want to integrate into society, just build their own little sick societies

    islam is a gutter religion (but aren;t they all)
  • tj85016

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    Jan 09, 2015 8:32 PM GMT
    canadian_stud said
    tj85016 saidthat's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in


    Spoken like Hitler.
    Your the scum bag. Trying to use the misrepresentation of a minority to represent the majority. Your type of people just hate and want to see anyone different from you suffer from prejudice and oppression.
    Trash like yourself is no different then the terrorists. Booth of you want to oppress and spread fear.


    ever read any of their Sharia law dumb ass? ignorant moron
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 09, 2015 8:35 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidCould it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.

    Most of the radicalized terrorists are homegrown. One of the jihadists in a recent attack in Syria was from the public school system in my very own school district. He wasn't an immigrant. He was a US citizen and his family was shocked. They said he had mental health issues, which is common for anyone who commits mass violence, whether they have a popular religious ideology or not.

    I think you're being too simplistic and placing blame on innocent people. These terrorists are like the Manson gang, if the Manson gang had gone international. They are psychos that recruit impressionable youth. They're not families. They're runaways.

    All religions have good intentions. They're equal, equally wrong and equally dangerous.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 09, 2015 8:49 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    AMoonHawk saidCould it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.

    Most of the radicalized terrorists are homegrown. One of the jihadists in a recent attack in Syria was from the public school system in my very own school district. He wasn't an immigrant. He was a US citizen and his family was shocked. They said he had mental health issues, which is common for anyone who commits mass violence, whether they have a popular religious ideology or not.

    I think you're being too simplistic and placing blame on innocent people. These terrorists are like the Manson gang, if the Manson gang had gone international. They are psychos that recruit impressionable youth. They're not families. They're runaways.

    All religions have good intentions. They're equal, equally wrong and equally dangerous.

    Actions, speak louder than words.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 09, 2015 9:05 PM GMT
  • FRE0

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    Jan 09, 2015 9:25 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    freedomisntfree said
    tj85016 saidthat's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in


    I'll tell ya, I'm in Detroit often and in Dearborn Heights and Dearborn, almost nothing but.

    Maybe you should reach out and be more neighborly, rather than make assumptions.


    That's a good point.

    At one time, people made all sorts of assumptions about those of us who are gay. Actually, making such assumptions has not completely ended. It was said that because we cannot reproduce, we have to recruit. It was said that if any city enacted legislation to protect our rights, all the gay persons in the country would migrate to that city. Of course those assumptions were eventually demonstrated to be lies. Having experienced this, we should be careful not to be bamboozled by claims that most Muslims are potentially violent and are determined to take over the world.

    At one time, blacks were characterized as uncivilized savages little above apes. There were cartoons showing ghastly looking black men intent on raping little girls. Such characterizations enabled the KKK to grow and also resulted in Jim Crow laws and traditions. People who are socially aware will realize that such tactics can be, and are being used, to demonize other groups of people, including Muslims.

    It is only a small minority of Muslims who engage in or support terrorism or other acts of violence. In fact, many imams preach against such behavior. Unfortunately, because preaching against violence does not make exciting and attention-gripping news, the media rarely report on it. The result is that people of limited perception see most Muslims as potential terrorists.

    Those who demonize all Muslims as threats to our civilization are guilty of bearing false witness. They lack either the ability or the willingness to think clearly and analyze. Instead of stooping to the level of the small number of Muslims who are renegades and intent on using all available methods to force their will upon others, they should set a better example.
  • FRE0

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    Jan 09, 2015 9:30 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidCould it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.


    You have forgotten about the Pilgrims who migrated to colonial American to escape religious persecution but later, for religious reasons, persecuted the same Native Americans who helped them survive the first winter.

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "Help wanted. No Irish need apply".

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "No Jews and dogs allowed".

    I wonder just how thoroughly you have studied American history. Perhaps your knowledge of American history is limited to the sanitized version you learned in high school.
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    HottJoe said
    freedomisntfree said
    HottJoe said
    freedomisntfree said
    tj85016 saidthat's because they're building their own little caliphate in Detroit - like most of Europe, we will rue the day we let these muslim scum bags in


    I'll tell ya, I'm in Detroit often and in Dearborn Heights and Dearborn, almost nothing but.

    Maybe you should reach out and be more neighborly, rather than make assumptions.


    I think you're making assuptions. I take EVERYONE as individuals until they prove to me otherwise.

    My california GP Dr. is black
    My friend who helped me the car restoration (very important thing in my life) is black, very black.
    My dentist is Japanese
    Eye Dr. is Japanese
    CPA is Iranian.
    My ex is a ricer.
    ex before that rice
    ex before that Mexican

    I'm not at all like so many lefties who I've known who by their behavior can be very racist.


    That may be true -- we are the most diverse country, after all -- but you make racially divisive posts and use derogatory terms to describe Muslims. That is your behavior on RJ. I can imagine you're very different in person than you are online, but this is a place where you express your opinions, and we have very different opinions on these issues, to say the least.

    (But we're getting better at avoiding the name calling, don'tcha think?) icon_wink.gif


    "derogatory terms to describe Muslims"

    Such as Muzzies?

    "avoiding the name calling, don'tcha think"

    Proof's in the puddin' Let's see how long you can keep it up.

  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 09, 2015 10:26 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk saidCould it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.


    You have forgotten about the Pilgrims who migrated to colonial American to escape religious persecution but later, for religious reasons, persecuted the same Native Americans who helped them survive the first winter.

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "Help wanted. No Irish need apply".

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "No Jews and dogs allowed".

    I wonder just how thoroughly you have studied American history. Perhaps your knowledge of American history is limited to the sanitized version you learned in high school.

    All of your quotes state 'not allow' or 'need not apply', they don't state 'will be beheaded'. As long as they continue to condone the beheading of gays and others, they are not fit for humanity.

    If you are still confused, just search on the word behead in youtube

  • FRE0

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    Jan 09, 2015 11:49 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk saidCould it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.


    You have forgotten about the Pilgrims who migrated to colonial American to escape religious persecution but later, for religious reasons, persecuted the same Native Americans who helped them survive the first winter.

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "Help wanted. No Irish need apply".

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "No Jews and dogs allowed".

    I wonder just how thoroughly you have studied American history. Perhaps your knowledge of American history is limited to the sanitized version you learned in high school.

    All of your quotes state 'not allow' or 'need not apply', they don't state 'will be beheaded'. As long as they continue to condone the beheading of gays and others, they are not fit for humanity.

    If you are still confused, just search on the word behead in youtube



    I am not the one who is confused. You are apparently assuming that the violent terrorists represent most Muslims; they do not.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 09, 2015 11:55 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk said
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk saidCould it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.


    You have forgotten about the Pilgrims who migrated to colonial American to escape religious persecution but later, for religious reasons, persecuted the same Native Americans who helped them survive the first winter.

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "Help wanted. No Irish need apply".

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "No Jews and dogs allowed".

    I wonder just how thoroughly you have studied American history. Perhaps your knowledge of American history is limited to the sanitized version you learned in high school.

    All of your quotes state 'not allow' or 'need not apply', they don't state 'will be beheaded'. As long as they continue to condone the beheading of gays and others, they are not fit for humanity.

    If you are still confused, just search on the word behead in youtube



    I am not the one who is confused. You are apparently assuming that the violent terrorists represent most Muslims; they do not.

    You are wrong. Most do condone beheading in the name of their religious beliefs. Still can't see the difference? Then you are also a part of the problem and are no different then the Germans that said nothing as they knew that Hitler was murdering millions of Jews, or Spaniards that bashed in the heads of American Indian babies, or the religious zelots that walked around thumping their bibles while men enslaved other men because of the color of their skin. You are one and the same.
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    Jan 10, 2015 12:30 AM GMT
    Islamic Relief USA is by definition Anti-Gay because Islam is Anti-Gay.

    A majority of Muslims are Anti-Gay.

  • FRE0

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    Jan 10, 2015 12:32 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk said
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk saidCould it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.


    You have forgotten about the Pilgrims who migrated to colonial American to escape religious persecution but later, for religious reasons, persecuted the same Native Americans who helped them survive the first winter.

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "Help wanted. No Irish need apply".

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "No Jews and dogs allowed".

    I wonder just how thoroughly you have studied American history. Perhaps your knowledge of American history is limited to the sanitized version you learned in high school.

    All of your quotes state 'not allow' or 'need not apply', they don't state 'will be beheaded'. As long as they continue to condone the beheading of gays and others, they are not fit for humanity.

    If you are still confused, just search on the word behead in youtube



    I am not the one who is confused. You are apparently assuming that the violent terrorists represent most Muslims; they do not.

    You are wrong. Most do condone beheading in the name of their religious beliefs. Still can't see the difference? Then you are also a part of the problem and are no different then the Germans that said nothing as they knew that Hitler was murdering millions of Jews, or Spaniards that bashed in the heads of American Indian babies, or the religious zelots that walked around thumping their bibles while men enslaved other men because of the color of their skin. You are one and the same.


    MOST? Exactly how have you determined that MOST Muslims condone such barbaric practices?

    Most Muslims are not Arabs. In fact, the country with the most number of Muslims is Indonesia. Such behavior does not occur in Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, and in most countries with a high Muslim population.

    I have known a number of Muslims personally and all of them have been very reasonable and responsible people.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 10, 2015 12:40 AM GMT
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk said
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk said
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk saidCould it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.


    You have forgotten about the Pilgrims who migrated to colonial American to escape religious persecution but later, for religious reasons, persecuted the same Native Americans who helped them survive the first winter.

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "Help wanted. No Irish need apply".

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "No Jews and dogs allowed".

    I wonder just how thoroughly you have studied American history. Perhaps your knowledge of American history is limited to the sanitized version you learned in high school.

    All of your quotes state 'not allow' or 'need not apply', they don't state 'will be beheaded'. As long as they continue to condone the beheading of gays and others, they are not fit for humanity.

    If you are still confused, just search on the word behead in youtube



    I am not the one who is confused. You are apparently assuming that the violent terrorists represent most Muslims; they do not.

    You are wrong. Most do condone beheading in the name of their religious beliefs. Still can't see the difference? Then you are also a part of the problem and are no different then the Germans that said nothing as they knew that Hitler was murdering millions of Jews, or Spaniards that bashed in the heads of American Indian babies, or the religious zelots that walked around thumping their bibles while men enslaved other men because of the color of their skin. You are one and the same.


    MOST? Exactly how have you determined that MOST Muslims condone such barbaric practices?

    Most Muslims are not Arabs. In fact, the country with the most number of Muslims is Indonesia. Such behavior does not occur in Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, and in most countries with a high Muslim population.

    I have known a number of Muslims personally and all of them have been very reasonable and responsible people.

    So now you want to blame Arabs? Now you're reaching in trying to support a "humanitarian" stance. But your "humanitarian" stance doesn't hold water because it still does not excuse the condoning of beheadings by the Muslim religion. If they were marching holding up signs condemning these practices, then you would have an argument. But so far none that I have seen have come out condemning their religion for the belief of beheading, burning people alive and killing people because they bare different beliefs.
  • FRE0

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    Jan 10, 2015 1:55 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk said
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk said
    FRE0 said
    AMoonHawk saidCould it be because all other racial and religious groups that have come to your countries have not openly and vocally acknowledged their hatred and intolerance of other religions, sexes and life styles such as Muslims have. In the US, most of its immigrants have come here seeking to get away from their country's oppressions, however in recent years people are immigrating to the US to destroy it from within and for the greed of money. The Corner Stone of our gates state:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    No where does it state to bring the greedy and those who hate us and wish to oppress us.


    You have forgotten about the Pilgrims who migrated to colonial American to escape religious persecution but later, for religious reasons, persecuted the same Native Americans who helped them survive the first winter.

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "Help wanted. No Irish need apply".

    You have forgotten about signs reading, "No Jews and dogs allowed".

    I wonder just how thoroughly you have studied American history. Perhaps your knowledge of American history is limited to the sanitized version you learned in high school.

    All of your quotes state 'not allow' or 'need not apply', they don't state 'will be beheaded'. As long as they continue to condone the beheading of gays and others, they are not fit for humanity.

    If you are still confused, just search on the word behead in youtube



    I am not the one who is confused. You are apparently assuming that the violent terrorists represent most Muslims; they do not.

    You are wrong. Most do condone beheading in the name of their religious beliefs. Still can't see the difference? Then you are also a part of the problem and are no different then the Germans that said nothing as they knew that Hitler was murdering millions of Jews, or Spaniards that bashed in the heads of American Indian babies, or the religious zelots that walked around thumping their bibles while men enslaved other men because of the color of their skin. You are one and the same.


    MOST? Exactly how have you determined that MOST Muslims condone such barbaric practices?

    Most Muslims are not Arabs. In fact, the country with the most number of Muslims is Indonesia. Such behavior does not occur in Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, and in most countries with a high Muslim population.

    I have known a number of Muslims personally and all of them have been very reasonable and responsible people.

    So now you want to blame Arabs? Now you're reaching in trying to support a "humanitarian" stance. But your "humanitarian" stance doesn't hold water because it still does not excuse the condoning of beheadings by the Muslim religion. If they were marching holding up signs condemning these practices, then you would have an argument. But so far none that I have seen have come out condemning their religion for the belief of beheading, burning people alive and killing people because they bare different beliefs.


    Imams have preached against barbaric acts. Of course the media rarely report that since it is less lurid, dramatic, and attention grabbing than reporting on barbaric acts.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 10, 2015 2:22 AM GMT
    But how many condemn vs support this?

    Looking at Britain 7 years ago (2 years after the 7/7 bombing), 1 in 7 Muslim youth in the UK (aged 16-24) admired Al Qaida and were prepared to fight the West. 28% of British Muslims openly desired that the UK become a "fundamentalist Islamic state" while 1/3rd believed "Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it". Nearly 1/4 (of British Muslims!) justified the 7/7 attacks in London!

    It will be interesting to compare views in France following recent events.


    On the other hand, there has been progress over the last decade:

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