Giving advice...

  • iHavok

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    Oct 02, 2007 4:29 PM GMT
    I'm someone who constantly has to put my two cents in, regardless of whether it's warrented or not, or whether I have any knowledge in the subject whatsoever or not.
    Lately I've begun to second guess myself in the forums because there are so many experts here. Sometimes it seems like there are people from all walks of life, and it's nice to have access to that, however I don't want to appear like an ass, giving bad advice to people who are seriously looking for answers.

    Is it better for those of us who are relatively new around here to sit back and absorb what we can, letting those who are more knowledgeable speak, or is it a situation where all help is welcome?
  • Nudista

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    Oct 02, 2007 5:42 PM GMT
    I suggest you put your two cents in any topic you find relevant to your life...regardless of whether someone considers it "expert advice" or not. As long as you remember you are simply giving your own opinion...and don't come out as "this is it guys"....always respecting others views, then go for it man!

    Variety of opinions and suggestions is great...it keeps the whole population "in the game" and no one pool of people get bumped out to the sidelines. I sometimes have very different opinions than the rest and will on occasion go against the forum current...but always try to do so without any offense.

    Above all just be respectful budd....that said...say whats on your mind!!
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Oct 02, 2007 6:11 PM GMT
    For me I like to here everyone opinion and advice, even if they are not experts. I may not agree with the advice thoughicon_biggrin.gif

    Don't stop giving your two cents worth.

    Mike
  • GQjock

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    Oct 03, 2007 12:12 AM GMT
    Hawk...don't doubt yourself
    If you say something and someone comes back with something better that makes sense
    ...I'd just say..Hmm that's cool I didn't know that
    Thx
    Thats what Life is..a constant uphill learning curve
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    Oct 03, 2007 7:47 AM GMT
    I agree... put in your two cents worth, always having respect for others and always looking at it as an opportunity to perhaps learn something new. Whether you have "expert" advice or not... you may have a suggestion that works better for that person/situation than what the "experts" have to offer. Everyone's frame of reference is different because we all have different life experience.

    BTW... I had a teacher back in I think 8th grade who defined "expert" this way...

    "ex" = has been or was

    "spurt" = a small quantity of liquid expelled under high pressure

    That always gives me a laugh and keeps me from doubting myself around "experts"... icon_wink.gif

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    Oct 03, 2007 10:35 AM GMT

    all people can be experts in giving advices .. everyone has a different angle of seing things that's why we want to hear all the opinions regardless to how much this person is experienced in that certain topic.. so keep give us your 2 cents , 50 cents it doesn't matter as long as it's YOUR opinion and it's your angle.
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    Oct 03, 2007 2:03 PM GMT
    There is an old proverb or two that says, "in many words there is error" and "Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue."

    But on the other hand, it is human to want to be inclusive and try to help. Sometimes it is not so much that someone likes to talk but they want to be heard.
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    Oct 03, 2007 2:20 PM GMT
    One more thing, these are forums that are meant for talking and discussing. Not all things are a matter of right and wrong. Certainly speaking AND listening are tools for learning, so no one should feel bad for speaking even if what he says is "wrong" icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 03, 2007 2:59 PM GMT
    Humility has its virtue.
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    Oct 03, 2007 6:00 PM GMT
    Speak your mind, if people think you are off base hopefully they will let you know in a civilized and intelligent fashion. I learn more in life from my mistakes then anything else. I also like hearing from people from different age groups and generations, not just from my own peers.
  • Laurence

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    Oct 03, 2007 6:09 PM GMT
    No, Briarhawk. Keep those ill informed remarks coming, it gives us all something to laugh about.

    ;)

    No really, humour aside, one man's opinion is as good as another's, some of the so called experts on here are often off the mark. So I for one value all the varying opinions. Life has taught me there is seldom one correct answer and most times lots of differing good advice.

    Lozx
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Oct 03, 2007 6:24 PM GMT
    jbedwards said, "I learn more in life from my mistakes then anything else"

    That is so true. Like the saying, "anyone who never made a mistake, made fuck all"

    Mike
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    Oct 04, 2007 9:43 AM GMT
    I think also we can all become entrenched in a certain philosophy and if yuo treat every post as a question even if someone states this is the way to do it.

    Then you can gain an understanding of their perspective or take on things and it maybe a piece of the puzzle we have forgotten about.

    Most training and diet related things seem to have had this mystical over complication added to them over the years. When really keeping it simple helps you achieve better in my opinion

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    Oct 04, 2007 10:53 AM GMT
    Giving advise is just that...giving advise. By no means does anyone profess to know it all.
    Most of the time when people "seek advise" it is because their own ways of thinking and debating about something is no longer sufficient and they want another perspective on it. And what better way to get perspective than by posting a question on a forum like this.

    So by all means, give your opinion (that's what psychologists and psychiatrists do anyway based on background information and clinical knowledge). As long as you don't expect everyone to just accept your advise as the truth.

    And by giving advise, you should also be willing to take any critique that comes with it..
  • DiverScience

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    Oct 04, 2007 1:06 PM GMT
    The key is admitting when you don't know something, or deferring if someone clearly knows more than you on a subject.

    "In my experience"

    "I'm not and expert, but X seems logical given that"

    Are very useful phrases that allow you to try to help without falsely representing yourself.
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    Oct 04, 2007 2:23 PM GMT
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    Spot the scientist :-)
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    Oct 04, 2007 2:43 PM GMT
    briarhawkIs it better for those of us who are relatively new around here to sit back and absorb what we can, letting those who are more knowledgeable speak, or is it a situation where all help is welcome?

    I think anyone who has a clue what they're talking about should speak up, regardless of whether they're new or not. Unless you are truly an expert in some way, everyone's opinion should carry equal value. Who's to say that one person is more "knowledgeable" on a certain topic than anyone else? Because they claim they are? Don't think so.

    The larger variety of views, the better and more constructive the discussions will be. Helps to avoid groupthink.