THE INAUGURATION: A Stunner

  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 20, 2009 6:04 PM GMT
    Regardless of party.... you have to be impressed. Any inauguration is
    intriguing, but beyond the structure, the efforts... and the symbolism is always important. This time it was especially amazing.

    I was pleased the day started out with prayers at St. John's Episcopal Church, the time at the White House and the whole pomp at the Capital, the departure of the former president.. and the installation of the new government.

    It wasn't always so well done.......

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    Jan 20, 2009 6:11 PM GMT
    Wasn't that gay bishop, Gene whoever, supposed to be involved in the ceremonies?

    I liked the last minister's benediction.

    Ok, I was confused....Joseph Lowry, a liberal pastor, was the one to do the benediction.

    Here are his views on gay marriage....

    "I've never said I support gay marriage," he added. "I support gay rights, and I support civil unions. Like a whole lot of people, I have some difficulty with the term 'gay marriage' because...deeply rooted in my heart and mind, marriage is associated with 'man and woman.' So I have a little cultural shock with that, but I certainly support civil unions, and that gay partners ought to have all the rights that any other citizens have in this country."

    http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/Obamas_Inaugural_benediction_pastor_Lowrey_clarifies_stance_on_gay__1224.html

    I would tell him to get over his "cultural shock".....that is no basis for denying full civil rights to anyone. Woud he accept "cultural shock" to deny any right or liberty to a black person?
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 20, 2009 6:11 PM GMT
    Caslon8000 saidWasn't that gay bishop, Gene whoever, supposed to be involved in the ceremonies?

    I liked the last minister's benediction.


    I do think Gene Robinson was supposed to give a prayer. Not sure when it was to occur.
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    Jan 20, 2009 6:38 PM GMT
    Gene did his thing yesterday.

    I thought Joseph Lowery was great. And atheists got a mention as part of the spiritual community of the country for the first time ever at an inauguration. How awesome is that?
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    Jan 20, 2009 6:43 PM GMT
    Gene Robinson delivered the prayer at the opening of yesterday's ceremonies. Unfortunately, he was on at 2:20 and they began airing at 2:30, so he was not seen on TV. HBO has promised to re-air and include him.


    HndsmKansan said
    Caslon8000 saidWasn't that gay bishop, Gene whoever, supposed to be involved in the ceremonies?

    I liked the last minister's benediction.


    I do think Gene Robinson was supposed to give a prayer. Not sure when it was to occur.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Jan 20, 2009 7:04 PM GMT
    Such a stunner that the market drops over 200 pts.icon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gif
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    Jan 20, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
    Virtually everyone in my workplace was watching it. Since I have a confirmed allergy to politicians speaking in platitudes, I remained true to myself and missed the inauguration (I don't think I have ever seen one).

    I am only interested in what a President does, not what he says he is going to do.

    I am happy though that the Bush Presidency has been assigned to the dustbin of history. Now he can concentrate on his Presidential Library. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 20, 2009 7:15 PM GMT
    Why is it that every politician gets clapped in and booed out? Big words and a load of political crap as always no matter which country it represents.
  • drakutis

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    Jan 20, 2009 7:17 PM GMT
    I saw former President Bush's airplane from my house! I said "BYE"!

    That's how close I live to Andrews AFB.
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    Jan 20, 2009 7:20 PM GMT
    aside from a controversial pastor and religious feel, it was a beautiful ceremony with a good speech by president obama, completely un-coated. how about aretha's bow!!? icon_eek.gif
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    Jan 20, 2009 7:24 PM GMT
    I'm not sure if all this excitement is about Obama and the historical significance this date carries or the fact that Bush is finally gone. I've heard a lot of people say this whole thing is a circus and overdone, and when I saw the Obama junk that is being sold, I would agree; however, look at the general feeling in America right now. Let people be happy if they want. Everyone needs something to get excited about right now, and if this is it, then so what? It's not necessarily about 'what Obama is going to do' that this will spark. I am hoping that for many people this excitement will carry over to 'what can I do for my community' or give them that extra boost out of the depression that always hits people between mid-January through about early April.

    Everyone knows that when it comes to jobs, the economy and things related to that, by 2012, we might see no improvement. Obama even admitted that. This problem is larger than any of us realize. But if he can inspire some new thoughts, new ideas, and welcome them rather than this last president who figures anyone with a high school diploma is an elitist, I'm all for it. I don't like how people are already criticizing him when he has barely taken office yet.
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    Jan 20, 2009 7:46 PM GMT
    Well that didn't take long. The wingnuts at Fox News say Back Obama isn't even president because John Roberts flubbed the oath of office. Never mind that the oath is just ceremony.
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    Jan 20, 2009 7:48 PM GMT
    creyente saidGene Robinson delivered the prayer at the opening of yesterday's ceremonies. Unfortunately, he was on at 2:20 and they began airing at 2:30, so he was not seen on TV. HBO has promised to re-air and include him.


    HndsmKansan said
    Caslon8000 saidWasn't that gay bishop, Gene whoever, supposed to be involved in the ceremonies?

    I liked the last minister's benediction.


    I do think Gene Robinson was supposed to give a prayer. Not sure when it was to occur.


    It was a foul up with both sides pointing fingers. It was also reported that he had a bad microphone. I call shenanigans.

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    Jan 20, 2009 7:59 PM GMT
    Caslon8000 saidWasn't that gay bishop, Gene whoever, supposed to be involved in the ceremonies?

    I liked the last minister's benediction.

    Ok, I was confused....Joseph Lowry, a liberal pastor, was the one to do the benediction.

    Here are his views on gay marriage....

    "I've never said I support gay marriage," he added. "I support gay rights, and I support civil unions. Like a whole lot of people, I have some difficulty with the term 'gay marriage' because...deeply rooted in my heart and mind, marriage is associated with 'man and woman.' So I have a little cultural shock with that, but I certainly support civil unions, and that gay partners ought to have all the rights that any other citizens have in this country."

    http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/Obamas_Inaugural_benediction_pastor_Lowrey_clarifies_stance_on_gay__1224.html

    I would tell him to get over his "cultural shock".....that is no basis for denying full civil rights to anyone. Woud he accept "cultural shock" to deny any right or liberty to a black person?


    Theres plenty of people out there in the world who are comfortable with 50 years old men taking 9 year olds as wives. Doesn't that culturally shock you? To people in this country, you could easily marry a woman and be granted these civil rights.

    All I'm saying is that the case must be made for gay marriage. The concept is relatively new and people are ignorant of any case to be made of it.

    As long as we continue to demand without explaination, deferring to slogans and memes as our arguments, we'll continue to get nowhere.
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    Jan 20, 2009 8:01 PM GMT
    I love Rachel Maddow she always sticks it to em!
  • auryn

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    Jan 20, 2009 8:04 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidSuch a stunner that the market drops over 200 pts.icon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gif


    I agree with the spirit of what you're saying mike... If George didn't have his head so far up his ass, President Obama wouldn't have inherited his failed policies and this Bush recession. I believe this is what you were trying to say.

    Hopefully, everyone will now work together and get us out of this rut.


    Thoughts and prayers to Sen. Kennedy and his family.
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    Jan 20, 2009 8:05 PM GMT

    MunchingZombie saidWell that didn't take long. The wingnuts at Fox News say Back Obama isn't even president because John Roberts flubbed the oath of office. Never mind that the oath is just ceremony.


    Not to worry... The oath is not really necessary, they mentioned on the news that the oath was delivered after 12:00pm and that indeed he was already President, with or without an oath. This according to CNN.
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    Jan 20, 2009 8:24 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidWell that didn't take long. The wingnuts at Fox News say Back Obama isn't even president because John Roberts flubbed the oath of office. Never mind that the oath is just ceremony.

    I cant believe that would be a serious commentary! WTF!! And ya know if a Democat appointed CJ was administering to a Republican and did the same thing they would say it was on purpose!
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    Jan 20, 2009 8:25 PM GMT
    drakutis saidI saw former President Bush's airplane from my house! I said "BYE"!

    That's how close I live to Andrews AFB.


    Sayonara! I have been to Waldorf many a times..Know how close it is to Andrews.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Jan 20, 2009 8:35 PM GMT
    Auryn said
    MikemikeMike saidSuch a stunner that the market drops over 200 pts.icon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gif


    I agree with the spirit of what you're saying mike... If George didn't have his head so far up his ass, President Obama wouldn't have inherited his failed policies and this Bush recession. I believe this is what you were trying to say.

    Hopefully, everyone will now work together and get us out of this rut.


    Thoughts and prayers to Sen. Kennedy and his family.


    Not what I was trying to say at all! Do a little more research and look at what Clinton left for Bush. Clinton houses for all and HMO destroying the best healthcare system in the world at one time. -- I remain hopeful, but since the election of President Obama I have lost over 150,000 in the market. Historically the S&P is up 1.6 to 1.7 % increase after a new president is in and we have not seen a decline since 1932. I hope we don't break that trend!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 20, 2009 9:01 PM GMT
    It was a surprisingly normal inauguration by inauguration standards, other than the historic nature of Obama as President. Other than that, I thought his speech was good, not great -- didn't really meet my expectations. I think I've heard him give better, but perhaps he's saving that for his first formal televised Presidential address to the nation, which I suspect will be sooner rather than later. I am hoping he and Michelle get out of the limo and walk the parade.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 20, 2009 9:02 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidSuch a stunner that the market drops over 200 pts.icon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gif


    I noticed the market.. but I think there are things that affect the market more than pomp and circumstance, Mike......
  • GQjock

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    Jan 20, 2009 9:05 PM GMT
    and look at what Clinton left for Bush icon_question.gificon_question.gif

    Umm icon_confused.gif
    Clinton left Bush with a surplus
    Peace at least for this country
    Near resolution in the Mideast

    and Bush did what?
    Like his ancient predecessor before him He fiddled while every around him BURNED
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 20, 2009 9:06 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said I am hoping he and Michelle get out of the limo and walk the parade.


    Clearly a new day for hope for you Todd, it looks like your "hope" has been answered.

    I've had CNN on all day in my office, my staff is probably sick of it, but its all just such a relief......

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    HndsmKansan said
    MikemikeMike saidSuch a stunner that the market drops over 200 pts.icon_sad.gificon_sad.gificon_sad.gif


    I noticed the market.. but I think there are things that affect the market more than pomp and circumstance, Mike......


    This country needs a new set of economic indicators that truly reflect our prosperity, or lack thereof. The current ones created a "smoke and mirrors" effect these past few years.