House boys

  • Latenight30

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    Jan 13, 2015 5:44 PM GMT
    Thinking about finding a house boy. Was curious if anyone on here has been a house boy or employs one for their chores?
    Not trying to find a sex slave or anything like that, that isn't the attempt. Seriously need help with the home.
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    Jan 13, 2015 6:50 PM GMT
    If you are looking for full-time or live-in help I would suggest an agency. Your profile states you are in Atlanta so it should be easy to find one. Or several.

    Be VERY clear about what you want and THOROUGHLY interview any applicants. Full-time help is a very close working relationship that often borders on Family.

    If you are looking for part-time, a few days a week...ask friends if they can recommend someone. That is always the best way.

    Local publications usually have ads as well.

    It may take some time but don't rush it, the right one will come along.

    Good luck!





    P.S.

    The term "house boy" is rarely used in the U.S. and usually only then by fleshy elderly gentleman with a penchant for kaftans, cocktail rings and show tunes.

    Housekeeper, House Manager, or P.A. are really more appropriate.

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    Jan 13, 2015 7:17 PM GMT
    Well, I have a few times, for help around the house and the ranch. There wasn't any sort of sex involved. It was a way to leverage unused rooms to pay, in part, for help. Not much different from how farm hands have been compensated around here for generations. Or from renting out a spare room for cash. The only difference is that by seeking out a gay assistant, you don't have to worry (well, not too much anyway) about offending him/her with certain aspects of your lifestyle.

    Overall, it is probably less hassle, if somewhat more expensive (maybe), to simply hire local live-out help that goes home at the end of the day.

    Beware also, that many, if not most, of the guys who advertise "houseboy" services are simply hustlers. (And probably most of the guys seeking them are simply johns.) Yeah, that once led to an interview that was confusing and embarrassing on all sides. icon_rolleyes.gificon_redface.gif
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 13, 2015 7:32 PM GMT
    I think you need to approach it very professionally. Make sure you have a set structure and list of responsibilities written for any applicants. Make it clear why you seek a "house boy" and what you "don't seek" as a part of employment. I think this process yields a higher degree of success than "throwing the dice" and hoping to find someone who might be good in your home.
  • Latenight30

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    Jan 13, 2015 8:02 PM GMT
    I appreciate everyone's insight and thoughts.
    Thank you so much and if it happens I'll definitely report back.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 13, 2015 9:07 PM GMT
    hire a few of those illegal Mexicans that hang out in front of Home Depot at 6AM
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    Jan 13, 2015 9:17 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidhire a few of those illegal Mexicans that hang out in front of Home Depot at 6AM

    Do they do that in New York too? I was thinking it was only a California thing.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 13, 2015 9:21 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    tj85016 saidhire a few of those illegal Mexicans that hang out in front of Home Depot at 6AM

    Do they do that in New York too? I was thinking it was only a California thing.


    I learned about it in Arizona - pruning and topping off palm trees is a real bitch
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    Jan 13, 2015 9:26 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    tj85016 saidhire a few of those illegal Mexicans that hang out in front of Home Depot at 6AM
    Do they do that in New York too? I was thinking it was only a California thing.
    I learned about it in Arizona - pruning and topping off palm trees is a real bitch

    At first I was puzzled as to what they were doing standing out there but then my brother, who works in construction, made some non-specific remark about them and I put 2 and 2 together and figured it out.

    How useful are they if you don't know Spanish? I'm guessing that their English is limited.

  • tj85016

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    Jan 13, 2015 9:30 PM GMT
    ^^

    well it's all yard or construction work, my Spanish is mediocre at best, but 20 or so phrases from Google Translate and you're done
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    Jan 13, 2015 9:44 PM GMT
    ^^ Like most popular culture, I learned about them from South Park.



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  • christastic

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    Jan 13, 2015 11:02 PM GMT
    lmao, any reason why it couldn't be a female housekeeper?
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 13, 2015 11:11 PM GMT
    christastic saidlmao, any reason why it couldn't be a female housekeeper?

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    Jan 13, 2015 11:11 PM GMT
    christastic saidlmao, any reason why it couldn't be a female housekeeper?


    It is sometimes easier or morE comfortable for certain individuals to have a Male staff.

    Also, depending on the type of work required, in certain cases Men are more likely/ willing candidates.

    The OP stated there is not a sexual element to it.
  • christastic

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    Jan 13, 2015 11:21 PM GMT
    ^^Alan Rekers said the same thing about his "travel assistant".

    Most housekeepers are women, so that the wife, who's at home more often, doesn't feel uncomfortable. The same would apply to a gay household, no?
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    Jan 13, 2015 11:30 PM GMT
    Latenight30 saidThinking about finding a house boy. Was curious if anyone on here has been a house boy or employs one for their chores?
    Not trying to find a sex slave or anything like that, that isn't the attempt. Seriously need help with the home.


    What? No sex? That better come with dental then.

    No sex? What the hell kind of a job comes with no sex?
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    You could do one of those reality shows. I don't watch them but you could do one. Co-starring Cholly from Mr. Magoo.
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    And then you can do a holiday special starring George Jetson as Bob Cratchit.
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    Jan 13, 2015 11:50 PM GMT
    I've had approximately as many female assistants as "houseboys." They were nice people, but the difference is that on days that the women were going to be here, I had to alter my lifestyle: put on unnecessary clothes, make sure that anything like lube or porn was out of sight, not have stuff like RealJock on in the office, change my workout schedule, make sure their hours didn't overlap with certain guests, etc. It would be a real strain to keep that up 24/7.

    I wonder if it is actually illegal to consider gender or sexual orientation when hiring a live-in assistant? Possibly it would be unwise to advertise such...

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    Jan 14, 2015 12:22 AM GMT
    http://www.lsnjlaw.org/Jobs-Employment/Domestic-Workers/Pages/Domestic-Workers-Info.aspx
    Federal discrimination laws exclude or most often do not apply to domestic workers because they only apply when employers have multiple employees.

    Federal discrimination laws regarding race and disability only apply to employers who have at least 15 employees, and laws regarding age discrimination only apply to employers who have at least 20 employees


    Never mind that advertising for a houseboy probably won't get many housegirl responses.
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    Jan 14, 2015 12:44 AM GMT
    Yeah, but that's the feds. Around here, it's the State Board of Labor and Industries that goes after stuff like that... pretty aggressively. Like they call up craigslist ads, posing as applicants. Last month they fined some guy $40,000 because he didn't want to rent the apartment at his business (a funeral home) to people with small children. Even though the "people" harmed were fictitious. (Actually, I kinda want to see what sort of people would apply for that. The Addams Family?)
  • TheBaise

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    Jan 14, 2015 12:48 AM GMT
    Partner and I have a house"man" and he's a cool dude who also attends the local community college around his work hours. He does everything for us, since we both work all day. We've had 3 guys before him. They leave us when they graduate. We get them from the college. Every job around the house / some gardening / taking care of the cooking / laundry / all cleaning / car cleaning. We have a written agreement about the responsibilities and hours. No problems. Our dude receives a salary, plus guest quarters of his own / 2 days off a week / flexible hours around his course load.

    By having a dude instead of a lady, we can just be ourselves / not having to put 'things' away or curtail guests' hours / or be closeted in any way. Our housemen have been both gay and straight.
  • dilfforrent

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    Jan 14, 2015 1:16 AM GMT
    ^^The real question isn't whether they're gay, but were they attractive?
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    Jan 14, 2015 1:22 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidYeah, but that's the feds. Around here, it's the State Board of Labor and Industries that goes after stuff like that... pretty aggressively. Like they call up craigslist ads, posing as applicants. Last month they fined some guy $40,000 because he didn't want to rent the apartment at his business (a funeral home) to people with small children. Even though the "people" harmed were fictitious. (Actually, I kinda want to see what sort of people would apply for that. The Addams Family?)


    Double check but I think there's a difference whether a situation exists in your own home or in a unit you own. And I checked into that in Florida because I've a rental and I was considering bringing in a roommate into my own home and I found there a difference in how the two are handled.

    Which makes sense, because how could anyone force you to live with someone you don't want to live with, outside of a best avoided bad relationship, of course.

    So when taking money (for rent) you can in your home openly discriminate, at least here in Florida. There might be rules for paying money (as in domestic help), I don't know, but I'd think they'd be similar because its within the private home.
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    Jan 14, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
    theantijock said

    Never mind that advertising for a houseboy probably won't get many housegirl responses.


    Possibly relevant: I was reading a story about one of the "gay" versions of AirBnB which said that single college girls do seek them out because they feel "safer." And of course, the apartments are better decorated.

    Of course, in that case, the "guests" aren't expected to put the sex toys away or clean the room...
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    Jan 14, 2015 4:30 AM GMT
    mindgarden said
    theantijock said

    Never mind that advertising for a houseboy probably won't get many housegirl responses.


    Possibly relevant: I was reading a story about one of the "gay" versions of AirBnB which said that single college girls do seek them out because they feel "safer." And of course, the apartments are better decorated.

    Of course, in that case, the "guests" aren't expected to put the sex toys away or clean the room...


    But ick, they're gurls.

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    Oh, I don't do toys, so no worries there. I'm saving that for my 70s or 80s when I might need to spice things up. Still good. No accessorizing required. And cockrings freak me out anyway. I wear no jewelry so, um, certainly I've no intention of decorating the cock.

    If I'm touching a guy's bod and hit metal, there better be a damned good reason for it being there and aesthetics ain't one of'm. I find it too distracting. Piercings especially freak me out. I can't even stick silverware into meat. That's why I'm vegetarian.
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    Jan 14, 2015 5:27 AM GMT
    TheBaise saidPartner and I have a house"man" and he's a cool dude who also attends the local community college around his work hours. He does everything for us, since we both work all day. We've had 3 guys before him. They leave us when they graduate. We get them from the college. Every job around the house / some gardening / taking care of the cooking / laundry / all cleaning / car cleaning. We have a written agreement about the responsibilities and hours. No problems. Our dude receives a salary, plus guest quarters of his own / 2 days off a week / flexible hours around his course load.

    By having a dude instead of a lady, we can just be ourselves / not having to put 'things' away or curtail guests' hours / or be closeted in any way. Our housemen have been both gay and straight.


    I actually put up a flyer at the local CC jobs board once, when I wanted an assistant to help with some technical projects. I got applications from the instructors. Considering the pay scale, I guess I should have expected that. I told them I could only pay kids wages, not professional wages, but they wanted in anyway. icon_neutral.gif That's how I got one of the women.