Palestinians Celebrate Terror Attack

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    Jan 13, 2015 11:41 PM GMT
    http://unitedwithisrael.org/palestinians-celebrate-terror-attack-praise-martyrs-and-heroes/
  • crosswinds

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    Jan 14, 2015 8:20 AM GMT
    Radd saidhttp://unitedwithisrael.org/palestinians-celebrate-terror-attack-praise-martyrs-and-heroes/


    Just like they celebrated 9/11...

    The sun rises, and everything stays the same.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 15, 2015 7:40 AM GMT
    did France celebrate when they invaded Lebanon and most of the Middle East for 300 years? probably
  • j_enn

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    Jan 15, 2015 8:17 AM GMT
    Radd saidhttp://unitedwithisrael.org/palestinians-celebrate-terror-attack-praise-martyrs-and-heroes/


    The website looks a little biased don't you think? Regardless of that they always complain why other countries support Israel. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 15, 2015 4:31 PM GMT
    tj85016 saiddid France celebrate when they invaded Lebanon and most of the Middle East for 300 years? probably

    Just as Arabs celebrated when they spread across the Levant, North Africa and into Spain, as did Turks when they reached the gates of Vienna.

    All of which was hundreds of years ago.

    This thread references people, today, celebrating the massacre of innocent civilians.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 15, 2015 8:15 PM GMT
    mwolverine said
    tj85016 saiddid France celebrate when they invaded Lebanon and most of the Middle East for 300 years? probably

    Just as Arabs celebrated when they spread across the Levant, North Africa and into Spain, as did Turks when they reached the gates of Vienna.

    All of which was hundreds of years ago.

    This thread references people, today, celebrating the massacre of innocent civilians.


    well, the US in Vietnam taught us that there are no innocent civilians - just a body count
  • crosswinds

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    Jan 15, 2015 11:08 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    mwolverine said
    tj85016 saiddid France celebrate when they invaded Lebanon and most of the Middle East for 300 years? probably

    Just as Arabs celebrated when they spread across the Levant, North Africa and into Spain, as did Turks when they reached the gates of Vienna.

    All of which was hundreds of years ago.

    This thread references people, today, celebrating the massacre of innocent civilians.


    well, the US in Vietnam taught us that there are no innocent civilians - just a body count


    OK, bud.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 16, 2015 1:02 AM GMT
    ^^

    it's true, the US slaughtered tens of thousands of civilians in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia

    Iraqi's and Afgani's also
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 16, 2015 1:54 AM GMT
    Civilians have been killed in all wars.
    Why don't you also use the US "slaughtering" civilians during WW II in your non-sequitur?

    Humans share 95% of their DNA with monkeys.
    It's the other 5% that is relevant.
    Or as the French would say, "vive la petite difference".

    The relevant difference, with respect to this thread:

    1. US/Allied forces did not TARGET civilians.
    The incidental death of civilians was not a "slaughter" or "murder".

    2. Americans did not CELEBRATE the death (NOT COLD-BLOODED MURDER) of civilians.

  • tj85016

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    Jan 16, 2015 3:50 AM GMT
    I know for a fact the US gave orders to slaughter civilians in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.

    A friend of mine was an Army Major and a member of Project Phoenix after getting drafted as a language major at Union College in New York. He had 3 uniforms (US, French and Canadian).
  • j_enn

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    Jan 16, 2015 6:10 AM GMT
    mwolverine saidCivilians have been killed in all wars.
    Why don't you also use the US "slaughtering" civilians during WW II in your non-sequitur?

    Humans share 95% of their DNA with monkeys.
    It's the other 5% that is relevant.
    Or as the French would say, "vive la petite difference".

    The relevant difference, with respect to this thread:

    1. US/Allied forces did not TARGET civilians.
    The incidental death of civilians was not a "slaughter" or "murder".

    2. Americans did not CELEBRATE the death (NOT COLD-BLOODED MURDER) of civilians.



    Native Americans. 'Nuff said.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 16, 2015 8:09 AM GMT
    ^^ How many generations, hundreds of years ago, are you talking about?
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 16, 2015 8:14 AM GMT
    tj85016 saidProject Phoenix

    It didn't target innocent (protected) civilians.
    It was shutdown due to public outcry.
    That's the opposite of being celebrated by the public.
  • j_enn

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    Jan 16, 2015 8:29 AM GMT
    mwolverine said^^ How many generations, hundreds of years ago, are you talking about?

    You act like it's a long time ago.
    It's no longer than 200 years ago, and the US foreign policy remained similar to 1900. When they became a superpower, they altered their policy.

    I don't know why you keep branding the U.S. as the savior of the free world lol.

    My Lai massacre was a bit interesting. The people who committed such atrocities still roam free today and barely got punished.

    When the Vietnam war ended, the U.S. neglected the fact that 1/4 of Cambodians population are getting killed by the Khmer Rouge, and guess what, the U.S. government sent guns over there in order to arm the Khmer Rouge against the Vietnamese.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 16, 2015 9:13 AM GMT
    j_enn> It's no longer than 200 years ago, and the US foreign policy remained similar to 1900.

    Yup, in human terms, that's a long time ago.
    No one from the 19th century is alive today. [OK, about 5 people born in 1898 or 1899 are still alive]
    This thread discusses CURRENT EVENTS.


    j_enn> I don't know why you keep branding the U.S. as the savior of the free world lol.

    I do?


    j_enn> My Lai massacre was a bit interesting. The people who committed such atrocities still roam free today and barely got punished.

    Was the My Lai massacre celebrated by the public in the USA?


    j_enn> 1/4 of Cambodians population are getting killed by the Khmer Rouge

    Was this celebrated by the public in the USA?


    Reminder, this is the thread topic:

    Palestinians Celebrate Terror Attack
  • tj85016

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    Jan 16, 2015 8:16 PM GMT
    mwolverine said
    tj85016 saidProject Phoenix

    It didn't target innocent (protected) civilians.
    It was shutdown due to public outcry.
    That's the opposite of being celebrated by the public.


    oh I guess a first hand account of what was was done doesn't outweigh some bullshit government report you read on wikipedia lol
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 16, 2015 9:12 PM GMT
    You really aren't very bright, are you? Never mind that an alleged "first hand account" from a friend of someone posting on the internet doesn't carry much if any weight, but why did you ignore the 2 (out of 3) lines that were relevant to this thread?

    It was shutdown due to public outcry.
    That's the opposite of being celebrated by the public.


  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 17, 2015 5:38 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    mwolverine said
    tj85016 saidProject Phoenix

    It didn't target innocent (protected) civilians.
    It was shutdown due to public outcry.
    That's the opposite of being celebrated by the public.


    oh I guess a first hand account of what was was done doesn't outweigh some bullshit government report you read on wikipedia lol
    Pay that pro Israel lunatic mwolverine no mind. He is a blind sycophant for that terrorist that Israel has for leader, Bibi Netanyahu who is vicious and needs to be taken out.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 17, 2015 6:38 PM GMT
    RoadRageRob saidPay that pro Israel lunatic mwolverine no mind. He is a blind sycophant for that terrorist that Israel has for leader, Bibi Netanyahu who is vicious and needs to be taken out.

    As usual, RRR can't address a topic and can only vent his hate.
    Recall this is the person who said that "Jews have it coming" and "need to learn a hard lesson".
    Netanyahu is a skapegoat. RRR hated Jews/Israel before his election, too.
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    Jan 17, 2015 6:51 PM GMT
    Ok, since some Americans apparently think it's politically incorrect/hypocritical to criticize the behaviour of the Palestinians supporting the terrorists, I (as a Canadian) will have no problem doing so!

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    Jan 17, 2015 9:11 PM GMT
    And these are the supposed "oppressed" people that the international community is trying to stick up for?!

    Our planet's moral compass is fucked up.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 18, 2015 9:26 PM GMT
    From the "Je Suis Charlie" thread:

    AyaTrollah pouncer said|| Olivier Roy, a former consultant to the French Foreign Ministry and professor at the European University Institute. “The people who say [the perpetrators] are radicalized by politics or Palestine — that’s not the case.... [it is] a Columbine phenomenon,… young people who open fire in public to kill as many as possible. They are fascinated with violence,” he said, adding that popular video games often feed into the bloodlust. Islam was just a “pretext.”"

    Yet in that very thread he was arguing the politics and attacking Charlie Hebdo.
    Seeking to rationalize and justify the attack based on beliefs and politics.
    Only to then tell us it's not about politics?

    Not done trying to have his cake and eat it too, Propaganda pouncer then reversed himself again, quoting the pope saying "These people provoke and then [something can happen]." That is, these aren't crazy individuals who are fascinated with violence and played too many video games. They were "provoke[d]" and are just responding. (You know, just how men are provoked by a woman dressing up nicely and thus end up raping her or another woman.)

    Is it just a coincidence that in virtually all such attacks the target is alleged enemies of Islam, be it cartoonists or Jews (the follow-up attack being at a Kosher market)?

    In Columbine and I think all other such shootings, the perpetrators took action in THEIR school. They didn't go across town and attack their rival school.

    Unlike these murderers, they don't select amongst their victims and seek out Jews or non-Muslims.
    http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/01/09/erin-intv-bramly-cousin-paris-terror-victim.cnn
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/kenya-bus-attack-28-nonmuslims-killed-after-being-unable-to-recite-koran-in-suspected-alshabab-attack-9877181.html

    Are we also really to believe that Muslims have a monopoly on "fascinat[ion] with violence" and "video game... bloodlust"?
    What percentage of such attacks in Europe are perpetrated by Muslims rather than by non-Muslim Europeans?

    Sure, what immediately comes to mind is Anders Breivik in Norway, but how sick would someone have to be to say (or repeat) that his attack was NOT politically motivated? That he was just "fascinated by violence" and had spent too much time playing "video games"?

    Perhaps the new "Politically Correct" terminology shouldn't be "terrorist" or even "militant", but "video gamer"?

    Not only do we see how AyaTrollah pouncer argues from contradicting premises (he still doesn't understand the logical fallacy in saying "A → B" and "NotA → B", revealing that all he really cares about is "proving" B, regardless if he has to argue one thing or its opposite to rationalize it), but did we see any such thing as this following the Breivik attack in Norway?

    https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=967063056669448
  • mwolverine

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    Feb 06, 2015 4:05 AM GMT
    Playstinian saidUnitedwithIsrael.org is not even a realible source. Get real.

    Ah, playing the source game despite many other news reports?
    Ironically, in his next post, he admits that the report is correct.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/middle-east-unrest/three-americans-among-four-rabbis-slaughtered-jerusalem-synagogue-n250556

    || Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri praised it and called for more bloodshed.


    Playstinian said this thread is disrespectful to all Palestinians. Some guys celebrated the death of the Israeli Rabbis and they doesn't represent all of Palestinian people as a whole.

    The thread reports what happened.
    That is not disrespectful.
    The real problem is that such atrocities are celebrated.
    And not just by "some".

    In the most recent PCPSR poll (December, 2014), 79% of Palestinian Arabs in the disputed territories support the "Hamas way" (terrorism over negotiations).
  • mwolverine

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    Feb 21, 2015 8:52 PM GMT
    || Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri praised it and called for more bloodshed.

    In the most recent PCPSR poll (December, 2014), 79% of Palestinian Arabs in the disputed territories support the "Hamas way" (terrorism over negotiations).


    Samer> It is because the poll said something it doesn't means it supports the crimes.

    At least you, unlike AyaTrollah pouncer, admit that these are "crimes" (rather than pretending it is legitimate "resistance" to "occupation").

    But which "it" (your 3rd one) doesn't support the crimes?

    When will we see a reaction similar to Israel's after an innocent Arab youth was murdered in Jerusalem?

    || Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned the murder, said "I do not distinguish between terrorism and terrorism"[107] and urged a swift inquiry into the "reprehensible murder" and called on people to respect the rule of law.[108] Nir Barkat, Mayor of Jerusalem, said the killing was "a horrible and barbaric act which I strongly condemn. This is not our way, and I am fully confident that our security forces will bring the perpetrators to justice. I call on everyone to exercise restraint."[109]

    || Rachel Fraenkel, mother of 16 year-old Naftali, when she heard that a Palestinian teenager had been murdered in apparent revenge for her son, condemned it immediately. She broke into her own period of mourning to issue a statement: "There is no difference between blood and blood. Murder is murder. There is no justification and no atonement for murder."[115]

    || In another occasion Rachel Fraenkel stated: "Even in the abyss of mourning for Gil-Ad, Eyal and Naftali, it is difficult for me to describe how distressed we are by the outrage committed in Jerusalem – the shedding of innocent blood in defiance of all morality, of the Torah, of the foundation of the lives of our boys and of all of us in this country. Only the murderers of our sons, along with those who sent them and those who helped them and incited them to murder – and not innocent people – will be brought to justice: by the army, the police, and the judiciary; not by vigilantes. No mother or father should ever have to go through what we are going through, and we share the pain of Mohammed's parents."[116][117]

    I doubt even 1% of Israelis supported the murder, let alone 79%.

    The murderers were quickly apprehended by Israel and will be in jail for a very long time. Unlike Palestinian Arab terrorists, they or their families will not receive terrorism "pensions" from the government.