getting out of the military soon and looking to move to San Francisco


  • Jan 17, 2015 2:47 PM GMT
    currently stationed overseas and will be separating from the Navy in the next couple of months. looking to relocate to San Francisco. would appreciate any leads on places to stay, volleyball/tennis clubs and any other useful information. thanks and look forward to the move.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 17, 2015 5:47 PM GMT
    San Francisco is very expensive, probably the most expensive city in the US. You would be very wise to check out other cities along the West Coast and in the intermountain west. Don't restrict yourself to just one major city. There is happy, prosperous gay life well beyond the corporate boundaries of the City and County of San Francisco.
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    Jan 17, 2015 6:54 PM GMT
    curious_athlete saidcurrently stationed overseas and will be separating from the Navy in the next couple of months. looking to relocate to San Francisco. would appreciate any leads on places to stay, volleyball/tennis clubs and any other useful information. thanks and look forward to the move.


    Welcome!

    I have lived in the East Bay for the past 7.5 years, which is not quite the same, but I work in SF and am very familiar with life there.

    To advise you on where to stay...do you have a reliable (and high) stream of income? I have not found a 1 bedroom in SF for less than $1600, and at that price they tend to be far out and dingy. Many people share space with housemates well into their thirties. Oakland and Berkeley are much more affordable - for now - but it will be a somewhat different lifestyle. Not better or worse, just different.

    If you're a tech startup worker or need the club scene, you'll want to be in SF, expenses be damned. For me, my location works very well and I appreciate the space and the head start to Tahoe and Yosemite. Also, having a car will probably be a pain in the ass in SF, but it could be useful in the East Bay.

    I don't know about volleyball or tennis clubs, but I had an ok tennis game back in high school and I'd play icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 17, 2015 9:18 PM GMT
    Volleyball is more of a socal beach thing.
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    Jan 18, 2015 4:54 AM GMT
    As a Bay Area resident of 2 and a half years, the whole area is pretty expensive but San Francisco itself is wayyy too pricey average rents for one BR about $2500, 2 BR $3000 +.

    Live outside of the city, Oakland, Berkeley, Hayward, San Leandro, Walnut Creek or Concord. All of those locations are accessible by BART train to SF. Plus in the summer, you will appreciate the warmer and sunnier weathericon_biggrin.gif As far as tennis/ volleyball clubs, there is a LGBT volleyball club that meets in Oakland ( view info on meetup.com). Not sure about tennis.

  • Jan 18, 2015 7:54 AM GMT
    thanks everyone for taking time to reply. i was recently stationed in San Diego and have also considered going back there or Hawaii if i decide against the bay area. i just like the vibe, people and the amount of activities that the bay area has to offer.
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    Jan 18, 2015 6:16 PM GMT
    curious_athlete saidthanks everyone for taking time to reply. i was recently stationed in San Diego and have also considered going back there or Hawaii if i decide against the bay area. i just like the vibe, people and the amount of activities that the bay area has to offer.


    I lived in SF for 25 years, but moved to SD 12 years ago because SF just got too crazy; too many bums and freeloaders everywhere, whom I refused to subsidize by paying SF's high taxes and prices. I also lived in LA for a year, so I think I've got a pretty good idea of what it's like to live in CA's major cities. SD wins hands-down: best climate, friendliest people, good balance of urban and rural, much more affordable than either SF or LA, and a good gay community that doesn't consider itself the center of the universe, as the ones in SF or LA do. Also, as ex-Navy, like me, you may find yourself more at home in SD's large military presence, though it isn't at all oppressive or all-encompassing, as Norfolk's can seem at times. If you do end up in SF, there are volleyball leagues all over town, the best one being that which plays west of Marina Green near the St. Francis YC. And, try to live near a BART or MUNI station, so you can minimize the expensive hassle of parking and driving that is another of SF's downsides. Good luck to you wherever you go - and thanks for your service!
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    Jan 19, 2015 2:13 AM GMT
    Portland is San Francisco's low-rent evil twin, and I wouldn't recommend moving here without a job.

    Maybe use your GI Bill, and get into UC Berkeley and take advantage of the "more affordable" student housing.
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    Jan 19, 2015 4:39 AM GMT
    FredPDX saidMaybe use your GI Bill, and get into UC Berkeley and take advantage of the "more affordable" student housing.

    The GI Bill now isn't the same as when I was in the Navy back in the 70s. Now you have to pay into it to get anything when you get out. I don't know how much you have to pay into it, but it's definitely no longer free like it used to be. I'm willing to bet some Republican pushed that law through.

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    Jan 19, 2015 8:53 AM GMT
    SF is very expensive these days. Some neighboring suburbs less so. (You can find rental ads on craigslist -where most people look - and get an idea of prices.

    Most of San Francisco is cold and windy most of the summer - but has a few neighborhoods that are not so cold, and periods of several days of high temperatures. Same with close suburbs to the south. Eastbay suburbs and north and far south suburbs are much warmer in summer. Winters are rarely very cold in the city (if you come here, the locals refer to SF as "the city", and never call it "Frisco"), and September and October are usually warm.

    Tennis: search for "San Francisco Gay and Lesbian tennis Federation"

    If you plan on attending school, there are a number of educational institutions around.
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    Jan 19, 2015 3:11 PM GMT
    "Frisco" is fine. actually, the only people I've heard complain about it are transplants icon_razz.gif but for the love of god, don't say "San Fran"!

    Also, it's really not that cold or windy. Constantly 60-something, which I love. Over 70 degrees and I start to wilt.
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    Jan 19, 2015 4:59 PM GMT
    curious_athlete saidthanks everyone for taking time to reply. i was recently stationed in San Diego and have also considered going back there or Hawaii if i decide against the bay area. i just like the vibe, people and the amount of activities that the bay area has to offer.

    Since you mentioned San Diego or Hawaii, you probably like warm weather. Some of the beach towns in the LA area are great. Young crowds, activities - lots of things to do.
  • wesv

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    Jan 22, 2015 12:50 PM GMT
    The Ingleside and Excelsior districts are less expensive but still not so affordable. Hunters' Point isn't a very good option as it's very ghetto.
  • TheBaise

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    Jan 24, 2015 3:27 AM GMT
    Crunch Gym on Polk Street in SF is where I go / I'm there every month on business. Totally cool place / very gay / but masculine dudes working their programs. 20's, 30's 40's / any age. The vibe is so cool. A frickin' lot of other spots to work out / no limits. You'll have fun meeting dudes and guys to be buds with.

    One thing man. Nobody / I mean nobody says Frisco or San Fran. Geez, I made that mistake once / only once and all my co-workers jumped all over my ass about it. Just say the whole name or The City, and you won't come off as some wannabe ass /like I did.
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    Jan 24, 2015 3:56 AM GMT
    CFL_Oakland said
    curious_athlete saidcurrently stationed overseas and will be separating from the Navy in the next couple of months. looking to relocate to San Francisco. would appreciate any leads on places to stay, volleyball/tennis clubs and any other useful information. thanks and look forward to the move.


    Welcome!

    I have lived in the East Bay for the past 7.5 years, which is not quite the same, but I work in SF and am very familiar with life there.

    To advise you on where to stay...do you have a reliable (and high) stream of income? I have not found a 1 bedroom in SF for less than $1600, and at that price they tend to be far out and dingy. Many people share space with housemates well into their thirties. Oakland and Berkeley are much more affordable - for now - but it will be a somewhat different lifestyle. Not better or worse, just different.

    If you're a tech startup worker or need the club scene, you'll want to be in SF, expenses be damned. For me, my location works very well and I appreciate the space and the head start to Tahoe and Yosemite. Also, having a car will probably be a pain in the ass in SF, but it could be useful in the East Bay.

    I don't know about volleyball or tennis clubs, but I had an ok tennis game back in high school and I'd play icon_cool.gif


    wow, I never knew it was that expensive there. The mortgage on my entire 3 bedroom house and 2 car garage with property taxes and insurance is less then $600/month.
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    Jan 24, 2015 6:31 PM GMT
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    curious_athlete saidcurrently stationed overseas and will be separating from the Navy in the next couple of months. looking to relocate to San Francisco. would appreciate any leads on places to stay, volleyball/tennis clubs and any other useful information. thanks and look forward to the move.


    Welcome!

    I have lived in the East Bay for the past 7.5 years, which is not quite the same, but I work in SF and am very familiar with life there.

    To advise you on where to stay...do you have a reliable (and high) stream of income? I have not found a 1 bedroom in SF for less than $1600, and at that price they tend to be far out and dingy. Many people share space with housemates well into their thirties. Oakland and Berkeley are much more affordable - for now - but it will be a somewhat different lifestyle. Not better or worse, just different.

    If you're a tech startup worker or need the club scene, you'll want to be in SF, expenses be damned. For me, my location works very well and I appreciate the space and the head start to Tahoe and Yosemite. Also, having a car will probably be a pain in the ass in SF, but it could be useful in the East Bay.

    I don't know about volleyball or tennis clubs, but I had an ok tennis game back in high school and I'd play icon_cool.gif


    wow, I never knew it was that expensive there. The mortgage on my entire 3 bedroom house and 2 car garage with property taxes and insurance is less then $600/month.


    And you probably have a good size lot? Lots in SF are tiny, although they come with $1+million houses (helps to have bought here when they were cheaper.)