Protesters surround conference put on by Texas Muslims: ‘You are not Americans’

  • metta

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    Jan 21, 2015 1:47 AM GMT
    Protesters surround conference put on by Texas Muslims: ‘You are not Americans’


    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/watch-protesters-surround-conference-put-on-by-texas-muslims-you-are-not-americans/
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 21, 2015 2:06 AM GMT
    Americans extremists scare me.icon_cry.gif
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 21, 2015 2:24 AM GMT
    That's how we do things in the United States ... We protest and carry signs ... we don't cut people's heads off and stone them in public and throw them off of towers

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    Jan 21, 2015 12:03 PM GMT
    "A young woman, part of a group of counter-protesters, explained, 'People are here to stand up with the Prophet against hate and intolerance.'"

    Lie! Her "prophet" was a maniacal warmonger and killer. Islam was spread by the sword.
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    Jan 21, 2015 12:04 PM GMT
    Whatever happened to freedom of religion?. And correct me if I'm wrong. Has an American practicing the Muslim faith thrown anyone off a high place?.
    Next you will tell me Malcolm X was not American.
    Once again ppl are lumping the group in with the few. Great job.
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    Jan 21, 2015 12:18 PM GMT
    ^^ Nidal Malik Hasan

    And correct me if I'm wrong. Has an American practicing the Muslim faith thrown anyone off a high place?

    Technically he didn't throw them off a high place. He just gunned them down.

    Nidal Malik Hasan (born September 8, 1970) is a former United States Army psychiatrist and Medical Corps officer who fatally shot 13 people and injured more than 30 others in the Fort Hood mass shooting on November 5, 2009.[3] At his court-martial in August 2013, Hasan admitted to the shootings.[4][5] A jury panel of thirteen officers convicted him of 13 counts of premeditated murder, 32 counts of attempted murder, and unanimously recommended Hasan be formally dismissed from the service and sentenced to death.[3][6][7] Hasan is incarcerated at the United States Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas awaiting execution while his case is reviewed by appellate courts.

    Hasan's business card left in his apartment describes him as a psychiatrist specializing in Behavioral Health – Mental Health – Life Skills, and contains the acronyms SoA(SWT).[55][56][57] According to investigators, the acronym "SoA" is commonly used on jihadist websites as an acronym for "Soldier of Allah" or "Servant of Allah", and SWT is commonly used by Muslims to mean "subhanahu wa ta'ala" (Glory to God).[49][49][58]

    A review of Hasan's computer and his multiple e-mail accounts has revealed visits to websites espousing radical Islamist ideas, a senior law enforcement official said.[59]

    In the Fort Hood shooting, on November 5, 2009, Hasan reportedly shouted "Allahu Akbar!"[75][76][77] (The phrase literally means "Allah is greater";[78][79] it is usually translated "God is [the] Greatest", or "God is Great") and opened fire in the Soldier Readiness Center of Fort Hood, located in Killeen, Texas, killing 13 people and wounding 29 others in the worst shooting ever to take place on an American military base.[11]

    Oh, and have you forgotten the Boston Marathon bombing?

    More info here:
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/americanattacks.htm
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    Jan 21, 2015 2:28 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidThat's how we do things in the United States ... We protest and carry signs ... we don't cut people's heads off and stone them in public and throw them off of towers

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    Huh, what about this beheading by an Islamic Terrorist in Oklahoma:

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/02/justice/oklahoma-beheading-death-penalty/
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 21, 2015 3:32 PM GMT
    RespectablyBuffed saidWhatever happened to freedom of religion?. And correct me if I'm wrong. Has an American practicing the Muslim faith thrown anyone off a high place?.
    Next you will tell me Malcolm X was not American.
    Once again ppl are lumping the group in with the few. Great job.

    Does causing people to jump off the top of the World Trade Center count?

    How about a bombing in Boston?

    These are religious devotees. They're like Catholics with guns.icon_confused.gif
  • tj85016

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    Jan 21, 2015 5:18 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said "A young woman, part of a group of counter-protesters, explained, 'People are here to stand up with the Prophet against hate and intolerance.'"

    Lie! Her "prophet" was a maniacal warmonger and killer. Islam was spread by the sword.


    the Prophet was there? Now I'm really scared.
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    Jan 21, 2015 5:38 PM GMT
    RespectablyBuffed saidWhatever happened to freedom of religion?. And correct me if I'm wrong. Has an American practicing the Muslim faith thrown anyone off a high place?.
    Next you will tell me Malcolm X was not American.
    Once again ppl are lumping the group in with the few. Great job.


    No, he - and most of his confederates, and his own daughter - was just a convicted felon.

    Those anti-Muslim protesters in TX had every right to be there, and I'm gratified they exercised those rights as they did.
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    Jan 21, 2015 6:40 PM GMT
    " Well Excuuuuse Me!"-S. Martin
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    Jan 21, 2015 7:09 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    RespectablyBuffed saidWhatever happened to freedom of religion?. And correct me if I'm wrong. Has an American practicing the Muslim faith thrown anyone off a high place?.
    Next you will tell me Malcolm X was not American.
    Once again ppl are lumping the group in with the few. Great job.

    Does causing people to jump off the top of the World Trade Center count?

    How about a bombing in Boston?

    These are religious devotees. They're like Catholics with guns.icon_confused.gif

    Joe, I think you are being unfair to Catholics - I think it has been about 200 years since they stopped killing people for their religion.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 21, 2015 7:13 PM GMT
    ^^

    maybe if the Muslims start a Wednesday bingo night, they'll chill the fuck out
  • tazzari

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    Jan 21, 2015 7:19 PM GMT
    “Go home and take Obama with you.” Pretty much sums up the intellectual level of the protest.

    And here I was, thinking America was a country where people could practice their own religion...
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    Jan 21, 2015 7:33 PM GMT
    tazzari said“Go home and take Obama with you.” Pretty much sums up the intellectual level of the protest.

    And here I was, thinking America was a country where people could practice their own religion...

    yeah, and it led to women being burned as witches and the Boston Bombing.

    Go religion!

    (No, I mean, go away, religion!!)
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    Jan 21, 2015 7:53 PM GMT
    tj85016 said^^

    maybe if the Muslims start a Wednesday bingo night, they'll chill the fuck out


    Muslims are not suppose to drink, gamble, or have homo sex. No wonder they're cranky as fuck.
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    Jan 21, 2015 8:41 PM GMT
    ‘Do you remember writing in your diary,’ he said, ‘that it did not matter whether I was a friend or an enemy, since I was at least a person who understood you and could be talked to? You were right. I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind except that you happen to be insane.~~George Orwell 1984

    How curious that our freedom of thought, of personal belief, expressed within this Freedom of Religion, one of the bulwarks against totalitarianism, establishing your mind as a sacred place, yourself as sovereign over your own thoughts, might propagate the development of a battlefield of religious totalitarianisms.

    Thank God for patriotism to protect us.

  • FRE0

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    Jan 21, 2015 8:51 PM GMT
    HikerSkier said
    HottJoe said
    RespectablyBuffed saidWhatever happened to freedom of religion?. And correct me if I'm wrong. Has an American practicing the Muslim faith thrown anyone off a high place?.
    Next you will tell me Malcolm X was not American.
    Once again ppl are lumping the group in with the few. Great job.

    Does causing people to jump off the top of the World Trade Center count?

    How about a bombing in Boston?

    These are religious devotees. They're like Catholics with guns.icon_confused.gif

    Joe, I think you are being unfair to Catholics - I think it has been about 200 years since they stopped killing people for their religion.


    But as recently as the middle of the 19th century, Roman Catholics were still kidnapping Jewish children:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgardo_Mortara

    Probably they would still be doing so if they could.
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    Jan 21, 2015 10:49 PM GMT
    ^ while I do not agree in the least with what was done in the case of E. Mortara, the boy was not technically kidnapped. Read the entire article.

    Your anti Catholic bigotry is showing.

  • tazzari

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    Jan 21, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    tazzari said“Go home and take Obama with you.” Pretty much sums up the intellectual level of the protest.

    And here I was, thinking America was a country where people could practice their own religion...

    yeah, and it led to women being burned as witches and the Boston Bombing.

    Go religion!

    (No, I mean, go away, religion!!)


    And atheists like Stalin and Pol Pot were life-affirming saints. But that aside, it's foolish simply to dismiss the great achievements inspired by religion, from Other Teresa to Bach's b Mass or Michaelangelo's paintings. If religionists paint with a broad brush, so do you. I fail to see a very large difference, philosophically.

    I guess at our church we should shut down our food bank, AA meetings, rooms for the homeless... all that evil religion-inspired stuff?
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    Jan 21, 2015 11:07 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said^ while I do not agree in the least with what was done in the case of E. Mortara, the boy was not technically kidnapped. Read the entire article.

    Your anti Catholic bigotry is showing.



    Actually, it is my knowledge of history that is showing. The article uses words like "abducted" and "taken away". If that is not kidnapping, I don't know what is. In any case, knowing and stating the truth is not does not indicate bigotry.

    Moreover, I am Catholic. In the Nicene Creed we recite, "and I believe in one Catholic and apostolic church.". Of course it does not say Roman catholic church. Unfortunately, many people have been brainwashed into thinking that the Roman Church is the only Catholic church; it is not. Even the writer of the Wiki article is confused by that.
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    Jan 21, 2015 11:23 PM GMT
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    UndercoverMan said^ while I do not agree in the least with what was done in the case of E. Mortara, the boy was not technically kidnapped. Read the entire article.

    Your anti Catholic bigotry is showing.



    Actually, it is my knowledge of history that is showing. The article uses words like "abducted" and "taken away". If that is not kidnapping, I don't know what is. In any case, knowing and stating the truth is not does not indicate bigotry.

    Moreover, I am Catholic. In the Nicene Creed we recite, "and I believe in one Catholic and apostolic church.". Of course it does not say Roman catholic church. Unfortunately, many people have been brainwashed into thinking that the Roman Church is the only Catholic church; it is not. Even the writer of the Wiki article is confused by that.


    I don't care what words the article uses. The boy and his family lived in the Papal States were there was a CIVIL LAW that stated a baptized Catholic could not be raised by unbaptized persons. The boy was LEGALLY removed from the home by the CIVIL AUTHORITIES. He was supported by the pope and was allowed visits by his family. That hardly constitutes kidnapping.

    Like I said I don't condone what was done in this particular case but to use it as evidence that the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH was in the business of wholesale kidnapping of Jewish kids is disingenuous.

    And yes I am well aware there are more than just the Roman Catholic Church; however, everyone thinks or assumes Roman Catholic when the term Catholic or Catholic Church is used. There are many Christian churches in communion with Rome. They are Catholic Churches. Your church is not in communion with Rome and is therefore catholic (little c).
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    Jan 21, 2015 11:39 PM GMT
    tazzari said
    HottJoe said
    tazzari said“Go home and take Obama with you.” Pretty much sums up the intellectual level of the protest.

    And here I was, thinking America was a country where people could practice their own religion...

    yeah, and it led to women being burned as witches and the Boston Bombing.

    Go religion!

    (No, I mean, go away, religion!!)


    And atheists like Stalin and Pol Pot were life-affirming saints. But that aside, it's foolish simply to dismiss the great achievements inspired by religion, from Other Teresa to Bach's b Mass or Michaelangelo's paintings. If religionists paint with a broad brush, so do you. I fail to see a very large difference, philosophically.

    I guess at our church we should shut down our food bank, AA meetings, rooms for the homeless... all that evil religion-inspired stuff?

    I've explained this before:

    When people like Stalin and Hitler are killed, their machinations die with them. Their ideology is weakened, and people move on, and say, never again. When religion inspires violence, the moderates keep promoting the religion with warm and fuzzy lies.

    Frankly, I don't care what good your church does, because religion is a lie, and the ends don't justify the means.

    Whether you like it or not, by affirming the lie, you are promoting a book that says to kill gay people. Christianity exported from the US is the cause of the crisis against gays in Russia and Uganda. You may think you're pious and good, but you support a lie, and a weapon that has, and will continue to be, used against gay men.

    I get it. It makes you happy and it feels good to be in a cult. But religion isn't real. It's a tool to control the masses. It's like racism of the soul. Some people, like you perhaps, benefit from racism, but someone else is being hurt by it. It's just a social contruct. It doesn't know anything about being human. It just tells a story set in dragon land.

    And never forget: gay people were better off before the God you worship was ever thought of (dreamt up) by some people in the desert.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 21, 2015 11:41 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    FRE0 said
    UndercoverMan said^ while I do not agree in the least with what was done in the case of E. Mortara, the boy was not technically kidnapped. Read the entire article.

    Your anti Catholic bigotry is showing.



    Actually, it is my knowledge of history that is showing. The article uses words like "abducted" and "taken away". If that is not kidnapping, I don't know what is. In any case, knowing and stating the truth is not does not indicate bigotry.

    Moreover, I am Catholic. In the Nicene Creed we recite, "and I believe in one Catholic and apostolic church.". Of course it does not say Roman catholic church. Unfortunately, many people have been brainwashed into thinking that the Roman Church is the only Catholic church; it is not. Even the writer of the Wiki article is confused by that.


    I don't care what words the article uses. The boy and his family lived in the Papal States were there was a CIVIL LAW that stated a baptized Catholic could not be raised by unbaptized persons. The boy was LEGALLY removed from the home by the CIVIL AUTHORITIES. He was supported by the pope and was allowed visits by his family. That hardly constitutes kidnapping.

    Like I said I don't condone what was done in this particular case but to use it as evidence that the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH was in the business of wholesale kidnapping of Jewish kids is disingenuous.

    And yes I am well aware there are more than just the Roman Catholic Church; however, everyone thinks or assumes Roman Catholic when the term Catholic or Catholic Church is used. There are many Christian churches in communion with Rome. They are Catholic Churches. Your church is not in communion with Rome and is therefore catholic (little c).

    Why does it even matter? Either way, the pope is just a delusional nutter in a goofy hat.
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    Jan 21, 2015 11:46 PM GMT
    One of the signs: "Go home and take Obama with you." icon_lol.gif