Why would I take a drug when I use condoms?

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    Jan 24, 2015 1:18 AM GMT
    This article doesn't take a stance that anyone is wrong ....as long as effective risk reduction is used.


    As PrEP Becomes More Available, Couples With One Poz Partner Consider Treatment
    Serodiscordant relationships, in which one partner is negative and the other is positive, seem like an ideal situation to use PrEP, but many couples are forgoing the treatment. Why?


    "Gladstein says he would tell Ron and Mike that by using condoms consistently, they are doing “a really good job of decreasing his risk of HIV and other STDs, and there’s no strong need to add Truvada.” However, he notes that PrEP, when taken as directed, is “probably our most effective prevention tool for HIV” and “it does not deserve the negative attention it’s gotten.”

    “Concerns with toxicity and long-term harm have been overemphasized when they really don’t exist for the most part,” he says. “The bottom line is, it’s a powerful tool when used correctly, and it could turn the tide in new transmissions. And that’s something we’ve not been able to do in the past 33 years.”"

    http://www.hivplusmag.com/treatment/prevention/2015/01/23/prep-becomes-more-available-couples-one-poz-partner-consider-treatme
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    Feb 12, 2015 9:28 AM GMT
    I have a question for both of you. Why are you pushing this drug so hard?? Have you noticed nobody else responded to you?? The Reason is you again are disregarding important sexual health facts which include that Prep, even If people accept your 'ideal world data' still does not address the question of other STI's.

    I also want to challenge the myth that casual barebacking rates do not increase though according to both of you and your carefully selected articles you assert that casual sex happens less for those on Prep.

    News flash guys. In the real world guys on Prep go on bareback rampages..
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    Feb 12, 2015 6:49 PM GMT
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidI have a question for both of you. Why are you pushing this drug so hard?? Have you noticed nobody else responded to you?? The Reason is you again are disregarding important sexual health facts which include that Prep, even If people accept your 'ideal world data' still does not address the question of other STI's.

    I also want to challenge the myth that casual barebacking rates do not increase though according to both of you and your carefully selected articles you assert that casual sex happens less for those on Prep.

    News flash guys. In the real world guys on Prep go on bareback rampages..


    I dunno, maybe they don't respond because they just don't care. Or maybe they don't respond because they agree.

    The answer to your question is simple, the reason we 'push so hard" is because we want to see less HIV infections.

    You, I and MMTM have all agreed that PrEP does not prevent STIs. Studies, at least thus far, have shown less risky sex, the same behavior or increased unprotected sex. All obviously quite different conclusions. There's no conclusion to be made yet.


    Did you skip this? "by using condoms consistently, they are doing “a really good job of decreasing his risk of HIV and other STDs, and there’s no strong need to add Truvada.”


    Your comment that "guys on Prep go on bareback rampages" is irresponsible and untrue.
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    Feb 16, 2015 5:50 PM GMT
    There is new research (January 2015) showing that there has been infections of no less than 5 people who went on PreP and it has caused complications. Surprised you guys are not right on top of that.
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    Feb 16, 2015 5:50 PM GMT
    There is new research (January 2015) showing that there has been infections of no less than 5 people who went on PreP and it has caused complications. Surprised you guys are not right on top of that.
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    Feb 16, 2015 5:52 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 said

    News flash guys. In the real world guys on Prep go on bareback rampages..


    How would you know about this when prEP isn't even available for use in your country?

    Are you simply presuming that this will be the case given your energetically promiscuous nature and how you so easily shack up with strangers you meet online?

    News flash, not everyone is over-sexed like you.


    I'm not over-sexed your just "slut shaming" to quote you both. Also PreP is being trialed and I know some of the participants who are friends of mine. Sorry to rain on your parade buddy
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    Feb 17, 2015 12:27 AM GMT
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidThere is new research (January 2015) showing that there has been infections of no less than 5 people who went on PreP and it has caused complications. Surprised you guys are not right on top of that.


    What do you mean by complication?
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    Feb 17, 2015 1:17 AM GMT
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    Feb 17, 2015 1:39 AM GMT
    People who go on PrEP are still subject to becoming Positive, as any Negative person is, even if tested Negative the day before. There is a window in testing.

    It means they were exposed before or very early in taking PrEP.

    If being tested 3-4 months as they should, and they develop anti-bodies it will be detected. It's strongly advised to go on ART Therapy then. Drug resistance can develop on PrEP alone once you become Poz.

    Some people have "complications" from drugs alone. Even aspirin.

    "PEP may cause side effects like nausea, vomiting, fatigue and dizziness in the first few weeks but these symptoms usually resolve themselves over time. Special lab work such as kidney function testing will be done to ensure that you are healthy enough to take PEP medications.



    If you start PEP and experience side effects, continue to take your medications as prescribed but notify your provider right away."

    http://www.arcohio.org/hiv-info-testing/pep#can-i-take-pep-if-i-am-pregnant
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    Feb 17, 2015 1:40 AM GMT
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    Certainly what some people do! And a good idea IMHO.