I'm finally excited about the upcoming Avengers movie

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    Jan 27, 2015 9:54 AM GMT
    I searched the forums and the last topic with the "Avengers" in it, was from 2013, so maybe people here aren't into superheroes, but thought I'd geek out with anyone who wants to do a happy dance with me.

    The following is my opinion of Marvel movies, thus far. Scroll down for the point of this thread.

    I've seen the Iron Man movies and Robert Downey Jr.'s arrogance and alleged wittiness gets old real quick. I am sure that is blasphemy, but he's too much for me.

    Thor...super boring. He has good hair. Yay. Christian Kane's is better. He has a more subtle arrogance, and Loki isn't very...villainous, to me.

    The first Avengers movie...I found it pretty boring and Black Widow reminds me of Iron Man's "too cool for school/I am so awesome/Dudes, I got this" attitude.

    Captain America...I liked them, because he at least didn't come off as a jerk and isn't as cookie cutter and boring as Superman can be with his moral compass.

    Agents of SHIELD I wasn't at first impressed with, but it's obvious they were waiting on the second Captain America movie (Winter Soldier) to turn up the engine full throttle. I'm still annoyed they killed off Triplett. He had no story, but had the most scenes of any guest star. Lame.

    Agent Carter..WOW. It came charging out of the gate. Jarvis is funny. Peggy Carter is likeable and I already liked the Captain America movies and the Agent Carter one shot.

    I didn't see the Hulk movies and not really keen on seeing them.

    GOOD STUFF STARTS HERE:
    Now, I expected the upcoming Avengers movie to be super boring...but they released a trailer with a woman dropping a cape in some cave.

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    Now, Marvel released their movie timeline until around 2020 and I know Black Panther is coming.

    20th Century Fox has the rights to X-Men, but I want Storm in the Black Panther movie.

    I also hate how the Fox X-Men movies have become "The Wolverine movie". Days of Future Past...Bishop should've gotten the chance to shine. And don't get me started on Halle Berry's cardboard Storm portrayal. But I digress..

    if Sony was thinking about having Spider-Man in Captain America 3: Civil War..

    then it's possible this chick is Storm with a Mohawk or something. Most likely it's Black Panther's sister...but being that I am not impressed with Mary Kate and Ashley's little sister as Scarlett Witch, or any of the current characters, she could be something for me to look forward.

    So, if you read all of that, tell me how I suck and have no taste, haha

    Here's the trailer:



    And Ultron...is just...not impressed. An evolutionary robot that doesn't die? Paging Magneto...
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    Jan 27, 2015 2:34 PM GMT
    blasphemer...
  • MarvelBoy23

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    Jan 27, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
    Do you read any of the source material!? All your points revolve around no love for the characters of color. Which I totally understand. But RDJ is literally breathing Tony Stark. All the reasons he is "too much" for you is perfect, that's exactly how the character is! Same with your complaints about Black Widow. Thor does have good hair, and it's a lovely wig, which Christian Kane has no need for, and Loki was super villany all over the place, he was a devilish little bitch! And the reason you love the Cap films, that his moral compass is slightly more jagged than Supermans? That's not the case either, his moral compass is unwavering, that's the point of Steve Rogers character man! Literally the ENTIRE POINT!

    I feel like you are maybe missing something here!? I by no means think the movies are perfect, but as a fan of the source material... DC or any other comic company can't touch Marvel, they have a formula that is working across many platforms! DC has Marvel TV beat, but even Marvel is gaining ground in that area with Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage!

    Everyone has the right to their own opinion, I guess I just feel the complaints you make are a little off, because they are actually doing a pretty good job sticking to the core of each character, and those are the things you seem to take issue with!

    anyway, I think Avengers: A.O.U. looks pretty awesome. That's my opinion anyhow! icon_biggrin.gif

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    Jan 27, 2015 8:33 PM GMT
    MarvelBoy23 saidDo you read any of the source material!? All your points revolve around no love for the characters of color. Which I totally understand. But RDJ is literally breathing Tony Stark. All the reasons he is "too much" for you is perfect, that's exactly how the character is! Same with your complaints about Black Widow. Thor does have good hair, and it's a lovely wig, which Christian Kane has no need for, and Loki was super villany all over the place, he was a devilish little bitch! And the reason you love the Cap films, that his moral compass is slightly more jagged than Supermans? That's not the case either, his moral compass is unwavering, that's the point of Steve Rogers character man! Literally the ENTIRE POINT!

    I feel like you are maybe missing something here!? I by no means think the movies are perfect, but as a fan of the source material... DC or any other comic company can't touch Marvel, they have a formula that is working across many platforms! DC has Marvel TV beat, but even Marvel is gaining ground in that area with Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage!

    Everyone has the right to their own opinion, I guess I just feel the complaints you make are a little off, because they are actually doing a pretty good job sticking to the core of each character, and those are the things you seem to take issue with!

    anyway, I think Avengers: A.O.U. looks pretty awesome. That's my opinion anyhow! icon_biggrin.gif



    I admit I have only read the Captain America comics.

    I've seen Howard Stark in some of the movies and he never annoyed me like Tony did. I think the movies were boring in the sense that they were formulaic. Bad guy. I have powers. Take them down.

    I think Thor is a little more mature, but the story didn't capture my interest. Bad guys. Defeat them. I never once felt Thor was in any danger. I basically waited to see how he'd save the day. And the supporting cast in Thor are barely onscreen.

    I liked Captain America because it felt different than the others, he ended up Frozen. And in the second one, SHIELD was taken down. I felt the Thor and Iron Man movies used too many tropes and were super predictable.

    As for the Avengers, Black Widow doesn't even have an accent, which annoys me and I don't think Scarlett Witch's costume is cool.

    If I had a problem with a "lack of people of color", I could've looked to to Falcon in Captain America, Heimdall in Thor and Nick Fury in all of them.

    I just found the stories super predictable. I like being surprised, so while they are chock full of action, Thor especially left much to be desired in storytelling and focusing on the character.

    Being that I found the characters boring, I didn't expect to care for the Avengers movie, but being that they are going to add so many new characters, maybe they will hold my interest more.

    Thanks for not being a jerk about sharing your thoughts. icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 27, 2015 8:34 PM GMT
    MarvelBoy23 saidDo you read any of the source material!? All your points revolve around no love for the characters of color. Which I totally understand. But RDJ is literally breathing Tony Stark. All the reasons he is "too much" for you is perfect, that's exactly how the character is! Same with your complaints about Black Widow. Thor does have good hair, and it's a lovely wig, which Christian Kane has no need for, and Loki was super villany all over the place, he was a devilish little bitch! And the reason you love the Cap films, that his moral compass is slightly more jagged than Supermans? That's not the case either, his moral compass is unwavering, that's the point of Steve Rogers character man! Literally the ENTIRE POINT!

    I feel like you are maybe missing something here!? I by no means think the movies are perfect, but as a fan of the source material... DC or any other comic company can't touch Marvel, they have a formula that is working across many platforms! DC has Marvel TV beat, but even Marvel is gaining ground in that area with Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage!

    Everyone has the right to their own opinion, I guess I just feel the complaints you make are a little off, because they are actually doing a pretty good job sticking to the core of each character, and those are the things you seem to take issue with!

    anyway, I think Avengers: A.O.U. looks pretty awesome. That's my opinion anyhow! icon_biggrin.gif



    I did like how Loki apparently killed his father and is masquerading as him, but for the most part it's Thor looking like a shampoo commercial. And of course him killing Agent Coulson, lead to Agents of SHIELD, so I have him to thank.
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    Jan 27, 2015 8:36 PM GMT
    Life2Short saidblasphemer...
    haha, I guess I want him to be knocked down a few pegs.
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    Jan 27, 2015 9:23 PM GMT
    WhyisHeGayThen said
    MarvelBoy23 saidDo you read any of the source material!? All your points revolve around no love for the characters of color. Which I totally understand. But RDJ is literally breathing Tony Stark. All the reasons he is "too much" for you is perfect, that's exactly how the character is! Same with your complaints about Black Widow. Thor does have good hair, and it's a lovely wig, which Christian Kane has no need for, and Loki was super villany all over the place, he was a devilish little bitch! And the reason you love the Cap films, that his moral compass is slightly more jagged than Supermans? That's not the case either, his moral compass is unwavering, that's the point of Steve Rogers character man! Literally the ENTIRE POINT!

    I feel like you are maybe missing something here!? I by no means think the movies are perfect, but as a fan of the source material... DC or any other comic company can't touch Marvel, they have a formula that is working across many platforms! DC has Marvel TV beat, but even Marvel is gaining ground in that area with Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage!

    Everyone has the right to their own opinion, I guess I just feel the complaints you make are a little off, because they are actually doing a pretty good job sticking to the core of each character, and those are the things you seem to take issue with!

    anyway, I think Avengers: A.O.U. looks pretty awesome. That's my opinion anyhow! icon_biggrin.gif



    I admit I have only read the Captain America comics.

    I've seen Howard Stark in some of the movies and he never annoyed me like Tony did. I think the movies were boring in the sense that they were formulaic. Bad guy. I have powers. Take them down.

    I think Thor is a little more mature, but the story didn't capture my interest. Bad guys. Defeat them. I never once felt Thor was in any danger. I basically waited to see how he'd save the day. And the supporting cast in Thor are barely onscreen.

    I liked Captain America because it felt different than the others, he ended up Frozen. And in the second one, SHIELD was taken down. I felt the Thor and Iron Man movies used too many tropes and were super predictable.

    As for the Avengers, Black Widow doesn't even have an accent, which annoys me and I don't think Scarlett Witch's costume is cool.

    If I had a problem with a "lack of people of color", I could've looked to to Falcon in Captain America, Heimdall in Thor and Nick Fury in all of them.

    I just found the stories super predictable. I like being surprised, so while they are chock full of action, Thor especially left much to be desired in storytelling and focusing on the character.

    Being that I found the characters boring, I didn't expect to care for the Avengers movie, but being that they are going to add so many new characters, maybe they will hold my interest more.

    Thanks for not being a jerk about sharing your thoughts. icon_smile.gif



    No reason to be a jerk! =) That doesn't promote good conversation! And Falcon was definitely the dark horse in Cap 2!!! I wish he would be in A.O.U. too, actually!
  • toastvenom

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    Jan 27, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
    its fucking joss whedon man, what's not to get excited about?
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    Toastvenom saidits fucking joss whedon man, what's not to get excited about?


    Joss Whedon deaths, for one, haha

    The man is heartless.
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    Jan 28, 2015 10:14 AM GMT
    MarvelBoy23 said
    WhyisHeGayThen said
    MarvelBoy23 saidDo you read any of the source material!? All your points revolve around no love for the characters of color. Which I totally understand. But RDJ is literally breathing Tony Stark. All the reasons he is "too much" for you is perfect, that's exactly how the character is! Same with your complaints about Black Widow. Thor does have good hair, and it's a lovely wig, which Christian Kane has no need for, and Loki was super villany all over the place, he was a devilish little bitch! And the reason you love the Cap films, that his moral compass is slightly more jagged than Supermans? That's not the case either, his moral compass is unwavering, that's the point of Steve Rogers character man! Literally the ENTIRE POINT!

    I feel like you are maybe missing something here!? I by no means think the movies are perfect, but as a fan of the source material... DC or any other comic company can't touch Marvel, they have a formula that is working across many platforms! DC has Marvel TV beat, but even Marvel is gaining ground in that area with Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage!

    Everyone has the right to their own opinion, I guess I just feel the complaints you make are a little off, because they are actually doing a pretty good job sticking to the core of each character, and those are the things you seem to take issue with!

    anyway, I think Avengers: A.O.U. looks pretty awesome. That's my opinion anyhow! icon_biggrin.gif



    I admit I have only read the Captain America comics.

    I've seen Howard Stark in some of the movies and he never annoyed me like Tony did. I think the movies were boring in the sense that they were formulaic. Bad guy. I have powers. Take them down.

    I think Thor is a little more mature, but the story didn't capture my interest. Bad guys. Defeat them. I never once felt Thor was in any danger. I basically waited to see how he'd save the day. And the supporting cast in Thor are barely onscreen.

    I liked Captain America because it felt different than the others, he ended up Frozen. And in the second one, SHIELD was taken down. I felt the Thor and Iron Man movies used too many tropes and were super predictable.

    As for the Avengers, Black Widow doesn't even have an accent, which annoys me and I don't think Scarlett Witch's costume is cool.

    If I had a problem with a "lack of people of color", I could've looked to to Falcon in Captain America, Heimdall in Thor and Nick Fury in all of them.

    I just found the stories super predictable. I like being surprised, so while they are chock full of action, Thor especially left much to be desired in storytelling and focusing on the character.

    Being that I found the characters boring, I didn't expect to care for the Avengers movie, but being that they are going to add so many new characters, maybe they will hold my interest more.

    Thanks for not being a jerk about sharing your thoughts. icon_smile.gif



    No reason to be a jerk! =) That doesn't promote good conversation! And Falcon was definitely the dark horse in Cap 2!!! I wish he would be in A.O.U. too, actually!


    Anthony Mackie(Falcon) did the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge with Sebastian Stan (winter Soldier), so I don't see why he wouldn't be in the Avengers. He will be in Civil War, for sure, though.
  • MarvelBoy23

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    Jan 28, 2015 4:52 PM GMT
    WhyisHeGayThen said
    Toastvenom saidits fucking joss whedon man, what's not to get excited about?


    Joss Whedon deaths, for one, haha

    The man is heartless.


    DUDE! I have met Joss Whendon 4 or 5 times! (Awesome that he actually remembered me and we share a Birthday!) He is so far from heartless! He just loves to torture! He specifically loves to torture the characters he loves the most~!

    His deaths are some of the strongest deaths written!

    OMG He killed me in all his shows! The worst deaths ever which make for the best stories around!

    Tara, Anya, Fred and Wesley... He destroyed me with Fred, the saddest death of all! I can't listen to "A Place Called Home" By Kim Ritchie without losing my shit!
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    Jan 28, 2015 8:42 PM GMT
    MarvelBoy23 said
    WhyisHeGayThen said
    Toastvenom saidits fucking joss whedon man, what's not to get excited about?


    Joss Whedon deaths, for one, haha

    The man is heartless.


    DUDE! I have met Joss Whendon 4 or 5 times! (Awesome that he actually remembered me and we share a Birthday!) He is so far from heartless! He just loves to torture! He specifically loves to torture the characters he loves the most~!

    His deaths are some of the strongest deaths written!

    OMG He killed me in all his shows! The worst deaths ever which make for the best stories around!

    Tara, Anya, Fred and Wesley... He destroyed me with Fred, the saddest death of all! I can't listen to "A Place Called Home" By Kim Ritchie without losing my shit!


    Well, he asked. And while it adds to the story, it doesn't mean I have to like it. It's like losing a friend.

    That's so cool that he remembered you. Where did you meet him? A convention?
  • MarvelBoy23

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    Jan 28, 2015 9:04 PM GMT
    Yeah Wizard World in Chicago, back when it use to still be about comics and Sci-Fi lol =)
  • MarvelBoy23

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    Jan 28, 2015 9:04 PM GMT
    Yeah Wizard World in Chicago, back when it use to still be about comics and Sci-Fi lol =)
  • toastvenom

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    Jan 31, 2015 3:26 AM GMT
    MarvelBoy23 said
    WhyisHeGayThen said
    Toastvenom saidits fucking joss whedon man, what's not to get excited about?


    Joss Whedon deaths, for one, haha

    The man is heartless.


    DUDE! I have met Joss Whendon 4 or 5 times! (Awesome that he actually remembered me and we share a Birthday!) He is so far from heartless! He just loves to torture! He specifically loves to torture the characters he loves the most~!

    His deaths are some of the strongest deaths written!

    OMG He killed me in all his shows! The worst deaths ever which make for the best stories around!

    Tara, Anya, Fred and Wesley... He destroyed me with Fred, the saddest death of all! I can't listen to "A Place Called Home" By Kim Ritchie without losing my shit!


    for me it was when he killed Buffy's mom, Joyce in "The Body" still watch that episode to this day and it still gets me.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 31, 2015 4:16 AM GMT
    My favorite Avengers icon_biggrin.gif

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