4 Wisconsin Teens Facing Charges Following ‘Sex Party’

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    Jan 30, 2015 3:04 AM GMT
    I'm not sure why charges of sexual assault are being filed, if the sex at this sex party was consensual. I can see filing charges of child pornography against them for video taping it. But what about all the other teens that are having sex and no charges are filed against them? The link says they don't believe any adults were involved with this, so how is this sexual assault?

    http://wbay.com/2015/01/29/4-wisconsin-teens-facing-charges-following-sex-party/
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    Jan 30, 2015 3:17 AM GMT
    Yeah, I read the full story and they said that no adults were involved with this at all, so how the fuck are they going to charge kids for molesting other kids? And why even? Experimentation is part of growing up. They're acting like they murdered someone.
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    Jan 30, 2015 3:38 AM GMT
    I bet half the kids in this middle school have sexually fooled around with someone. So are they going to arrest them all? By video taping this they could get charged with possession of child pornography, since they are all minors having sex in this video. It may not be wise for middle school students to have sex that early in their life, but where is the sexual assault? I don't see anything in the link that says anyone at this party was forced in any way to have sex. They all went to the partying willingly, knowing the party was a sex party. The only thing I can figure out is perhaps some of them were not aware they were being video taped, which would be like an assault of their privacy.

    It appears, though, that nobody who had sex there was upset about anything because they aren't the ones who reported it. It was reported by another student who didn't go to the party, but was aware that they were going to have sex there.
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    Jan 30, 2015 3:44 AM GMT
    Radd saidYeah, I read the full story and they said that no adults were involved with this at all, so how the fuck are they going to charge kids for molesting other kids? And why even? Experimentation is part of growing up. They're acting like they murdered someone.



    "but they want to send a clear message that this behavior isn’t acceptable among middle-school age kids"


    I totally agree with you, I mean just check out the RJ thread on when did you first masturbate. I know I was middle school age and with a male friend of the same age. Of course this a miscommunication among (Midwest conservative) adults again. I think misunderstanding comes in the form of Recording the event rather than the event itself. The recording ("the behavior") could get leaked and in the hands of adult traffickers. As long as the recording(s) gets destroyed, there should be no charges against these kids.

    Does this mean my male friend of the same age molested me because he showed me how to masturbate?
    (by conservative standards, I guess so) icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 30, 2015 4:03 AM GMT
    I know in Wisconsin, just possession of child pornography by anyone, adult or minor, (recorded on phone or other digital media) is a crime, even if it isn't posted or distributed to anyone. So those involved with the video taping of this could be charged with possession of child pornography. But I'm sure the sexual assault charges will be dismissed in court as long as everyone consented. These kids just weren't thinking by video taping themselves having sex, this was child pornography and now they will have this on their record for the rest of their life. It was a stupid thing to do.
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    Jan 30, 2015 3:42 PM GMT
    if you think about it the criminal charges will really phuck up the future lives of the children. Short term, will also make the video go viral. good job Wisconsin.
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    Jan 30, 2015 4:11 PM GMT
    In WI, the age of consent is 18. Sex with or among people under 18 can be prosecuted as statutory rape, a misdemeanor. The essence of the crime is that it is deemed legally impossible for minors to knowingly consent to sex, regardless of whether they willingly do so or not, thus the prosecution. If WI's citizens want to change this law, they are free to do so.
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    Jan 30, 2015 10:06 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidIn WI, the age of consent is 18. Sex with or among people under 18 can be prosecuted as statutory rape, a misdemeanor. The essence of the crime is that it is deemed legally impossible for minors to knowingly consent to sex, regardless of whether they willingly do so or not, thus the prosecution. If WI's citizens want to change this law, they are free to do so.


    I know it's the law, but there's more then just 4 teens in Wisconsin, who are having sex. lol Why are they only prosecuting them? Isn't this discrimination, if they prosecute only these teens and not all the other teens having sex?
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    Jan 30, 2015 10:17 PM GMT
    Perhaps the home owner should be prosecuted for failing to supervise the activities in the house.

    Of course what the kids did was not reasonable, but the way the police are handling it will surely do more harm than good.
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    Jan 31, 2015 12:30 AM GMT
    probably because they were stupid enough to distribute the video over the internet

    maybe some poor kid got abused or coerced

    not many facts are presented in the posted story
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    Jan 31, 2015 12:44 AM GMT
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    MGINSD saidIn WI, the age of consent is 18. Sex with or among people under 18 can be prosecuted as statutory rape, a misdemeanor. The essence of the crime is that it is deemed legally impossible for minors to knowingly consent to sex, regardless of whether they willingly do so or not, thus the prosecution. If WI's citizens want to change this law, they are free to do so.


    I know it's the law, but there's more then just 4 teens in Wisconsin, who are having sex. lol Why are they only prosecuting them? Isn't this discrimination, if they prosecute only these teens and not all the other teens having sex?


    Prosecutorial discretion, which often displeases some of the people some, if not all, of the time is the reason. It's not a case of discrimination at all. Cf., the lack of charges filed against MBrown's stepdad for inciting a crowd to riot and commit arson in Ferguson, as clear a case of selective non-prosecution, prosecutorial indiscretion, and reverse discrimination as will ever be found.
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    Jan 31, 2015 2:34 AM GMT
    tj85016 saidprobably because they were stupid enough to distribute the video over the internet

    maybe some poor kid got abused or coerced

    not many facts are presented in the posted story


    The story said that they didn't post it online, but you are right, there are not many legal facts listed in the story. There could have been abuse by one or more in the group. Hard to know.
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    Jan 31, 2015 5:42 PM GMT
    One can understand the involvement of the police for the purposes of initial investigation, but as there appears to have been no publication of the videos and provided there is no adult involvement and no suggestion of coercion, the matter should be left to their parents and child protective services to deal with. Criminalizing 13-year-old children isn't the answer to this sort of conduct.
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    Jan 31, 2015 6:38 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidOne can understand the involvement of the police for the purposes of initial investigation, but as there appears to have been no publication of the videos and provided there is no adult involvement and no suggestion of coercion, the matter should be left to their parents and child protective services to deal with. Criminalizing 13-year-old children isn't the answer to this sort of conduct.
    I agree 100% but many of our US politicians don't know anything about the real world around them. They think that legislating a new or more draconian law will instantly solve all of humanity's serious problems. Go figure.
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    Jan 31, 2015 6:44 PM GMT
    Once upon a time, they would have been spanked and put to bed without any supper.
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    Jan 31, 2015 6:54 PM GMT
    LJay saidOnce upon a time, they would have been spanked and put to bed without any supper.
    My friend, those days are forever gone. Since they are teen aged adolescents, I doubt the spanking part but they would get their asses kicked and end up grounded for God only knows how long. But you can't do that today because it is interpreted as child abuse.
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    Feb 01, 2015 6:58 PM GMT
    There's a lot of fucked up things happening in Wisconsin.
    No big surprise since the state is currently run by right-wing nutjobs.
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    Feb 01, 2015 8:18 PM GMT
    The_Polaris saidThere's a lot of fucked up things happening in Wisconsin.
    No big surprise since the state is currently run by right-wing nutjobs.
    Wisconsin isn't the only state with fucked up things happening. New York now has its hands full with getting rid of corrupt Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver and now there is a slight to mild possibility that the state senate leader might also be under federal investigation. Just rumors so far but I would not be surprised if Mr. Skelos gets burned by the federal attorneys pursuing corruption in the Albany state house.
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    Feb 02, 2015 2:42 AM GMT
    You can't blame the entire state when it's the county that is bringing the charges against these teens. Middle school and high school kids are having sex all the time around here and in parties just like this one and the police know about it, too. But if it's all consensual the police do not treat it as a crime here in the Fox Valley area and do not get involved. They leave promiscuity, pregnancy, and moral issues like this to the kids parents or guardians and social workers in the school. I have never seen the police here arrest a single teen for having consensual sex with other students and it happens here all the time. There's got to be more to this story that is not being said here. What I suspect is that it's not per se the sex that is making this a crime, but perhaps secretly video recording it when some of the teens may not have known they were being video recorded because of a violation of privacy, making this the sexual assault. Perhaps not all of the teens will receive charges, but only those teens who were involved in the video recording of it. It sounds like there were 3 boys and 1 girl. It's probably the boys who wanted this video recorded. I'm sure this girl didn't want a video recording of her sexually playing with these 3 boys and that's probably what the crime is.
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    Feb 02, 2015 3:09 AM GMT
    A lot of fucked up things are going on in Milwaukee County and it's gotten so bad there that people from other counties don't even want to go into that county because you might not get out of there alive. That's how bad that county is. People are so scared to even go to a Buck's game because before a game a few weeks ago they were blocking the entrances, so that nobody could get in and the police had to clear the area, so that people could get in and see the game. People were so pissed that night because of all these people blocking the doors. I had my car stolen there once, so I won't go into that county for anything anymore. That county is so fucked up with so many problems. There is so much drug trafficing there. It's not like this in the rest of the state. Green Bay, Madison and the Fox Cities are not like Milwaukee at all. Racine and Kenosha county is also really bad and I think it's because of their proximity to Chicago.