E-smoking

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    Jan 31, 2015 3:34 AM GMT
    It isn't even something that I am contemplating, but it is the new craze here even at work because supposedly it's not suppose to be as harmful as regular smoking. But, they are considering making this smoking illegal, too, in any public building here. Although high school students are also into E-smoking, it's been banned already in all schools here. What are your views on e-smoking in public buildings?
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    Jan 31, 2015 12:07 PM GMT
    There's still a lot we don't know about the long term effects. Some preliminary research shows that the vapors contain formaldehyde. Also, e-cigs aren't regulated. So kids are able to buy e-cig liquids that contain nicotine.

    So yeah, e-cigs should be treated like regular cigarettes for the time being.
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    Jan 31, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
    Like has already been mentioned, there haven't been a full round of comprehensive or long-term studies yet on the effects of vaping. New Orleans just signed into law its full-blown (pun-intended) anti-smoking ordinance which includes electronic cigarettes but with wording that will make reversing their inclusion simple if it turns out they are, in fact, safe.

    I will say however that there's a difference between the guy discretely puffing an e-cig and the douche blowing enough vape that he looks like a steam locomotive. Even if its not harmful, that's just obnoxious. I see a lot of ghetto guys doing that out of car windows, i guess they think it makes them look "badass" or "hardcore" or something
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    Jan 31, 2015 7:21 PM GMT
    No opinion yet. So far nobody has really bothered me by doing it.
    I have encountered a couple of guys who were making a point of getting in my face with it - just daring me to say something, so that we could have a nice argument. icon_rolleyes.gif

    So far the annoyance level seems to be about on par with people wearing their pants down below their ass, or sporting a really tragic tattoo. Noisy-shoes annoying maybe.
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    Jan 31, 2015 8:09 PM GMT
    LOL. Locomtive. Yeah, it seems most people that vape crank up the power and turn into a steam factory. It's kinda ridiculous. The other day, I saw some dude let out a massive cloud while at a red light. He had to roll his windows down so that he could see.
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    Jan 31, 2015 8:55 PM GMT
    Do they only produce white smoke? It would be cool to have e-cigs that produced pink or purple smoke.
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    Jan 31, 2015 9:02 PM GMT
    They emit 4-15 times the formaldehyde as a regular cigarette.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:01 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidDo they only produce white smoke? It would be cool to have e-cigs that produced pink or purple smoke.

    Yeah, it's white smoke.. for now. I'm sure someone will get clever and add more chemicals to create different color smoke.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:49 PM GMT
    I've literally never seen one.

    I'm in Long Island.

    Real ones? All over the place.
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    Jan 31, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
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    Lumpyoatmeal saidDo they only produce white smoke? It would be cool to have e-cigs that produced pink or purple smoke.

    Yeah, it's white smoke.. for now. I'm sure someone will get clever and add more chemicals to create different color smoke.


    If they can make automobile tires that make colored smoke when you do but outs, I'm sure that they will make colored vape cartridge
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    Jan 31, 2015 11:31 PM GMT

    Alright homo's, I have been vaping almost 2 years now, totally quit tobacco with E-Cig. I started small (disposable) and onto the tank with low dose nicotine e-liquid. I can tell you Vape shops are popping up everywhere and most of them are run by, young, (30 and younger) business entrepreneurs, millennia's. These Vape shops are not ordinary. More like lounges some of them. I kind of envy these young people, being there own boss and running a small business, as I am the type who usually works for somebody else. They are in on the ground floor.

    The Vaping equipment is an art form unto itself. With extremely knowledgeable young people about how these things work, electrically and mechanically. "Mods" is a frequently used term to describe a "home made" version (vs manufactured) of some electronic components, namely, "the coil". Voltage, Amp is just as important as the E-Cig set up. Just doing a search of You Tube, you will find many people doing E-liquid "reviews", as in taste, vapor production, PG to VG ratio (viscosity) and quality testers. Some even show how to make your own E-liquid.

    It appears Vaping is more of a science and those who want to regulate, want in on the craze (its money of course), these Vape shops would not be popping up if the young people didn't see the business potential ahead of big tobacco companies who are now losing millions in tobacco sales. Lets be clear, the motivation to regulate comes down to money more than anything safety. E-liquids come without any nicotine to, as in 0. These young people who own, run these Vape shop businesses, know the science behind their products, more than any bureaucratic regulators will ever know. The product is helping many people, Vape On.......icon_cool.gif


    How to Start a Vapor Shop
    http://ecigone.com/featured/start-vapor-shop/

    Rise of the Vape Store
    http://www.ecigdepot.net/rise-vape-store/

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    Feb 01, 2015 2:17 AM GMT
    ELNathB said
    Alright homo's,...


    Yup, always the best approach for furthering intelligent debate and discussion
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    Feb 01, 2015 2:31 AM GMT
    Life2Short said
    ELNathB said
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    Yup, always the best approach for furthering intelligent debate and discussion



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    Feb 01, 2015 3:59 AM GMT
    I quit smoking in December I was thinking of trying e cigs
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    Feb 01, 2015 7:04 AM GMT
    If the e-cigarettes are in a private place or lounge specifically for smokers, who am I to complain?

    But the OP was asking about public buildings. In public buildings, no, I do not want to breathe e-cigarette vapor. I was at a restaurant yesterday, and a customer was blanketed in a fog of his e-cig vapor. I could smell it, and it wasn't water vapor, that's for sure.

    Our city has a provisional ban on e-cigs in public buildings and restaurants. I thought his choice to smoke in a restaurant was rude.
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    Feb 01, 2015 4:11 PM GMT
    Scares the shit out of me.
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    Feb 01, 2015 4:28 PM GMT
    Not enough data. Wait another 10-20 years and we will have some idea if there is any causal relationship between e-cigarettes and lung cancer or COPD.

    With that being said, how can I buy stock in this product? I want to make money off other people's addictions.

    Always bet on human frailty. You will win every time.
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    Feb 01, 2015 4:47 PM GMT
    Not a smoker, but since they are unregulated i think there are a lot of unknowns. In some instances I've heard it's actually easier to to have more nicotine intake without getting the same "satisfaction" you get from regular cigarettes. I guess I don't know a ton about it, but I'd proceed with caution. :-P
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    Feb 01, 2015 7:26 PM GMT
    I used to smoke E Cigs and while they are less damaging than normal cigarettes they still contain Nicotine and are therefore highly addictive.

    I tried to use them to stop smoking but inevitably I would smoke the E-Cig at home then smoke normal cigarettes when I was out at night - so essentially I was doubling my nicotine intake.

    The problem is E-Cigs make smoking so damn easy and that's the insidious side of it - with nicer flavours I feel they are in some respects even more dangerous than normal cigs because they are more pleasurable.

    TLicon_biggrin.gifR Yes they are technically better for you but in my mind also dangerous because they are just as (if not more) addictive.
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    Feb 01, 2015 7:30 PM GMT
    I don't think they should be allowed in public places. I was in a board meeting and one guy took his out and started puffing… Not acceptable at all in my books.