Are millennials tolerant racists?

  • metta

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    Jan 31, 2015 5:02 AM GMT
    Are millennials tolerant racists?

    “There is a strange kind of enigma associated with the problem of racism. No one, or almost no one, wishes to see themselves as racist; still, racism persists, real and tenacious.” That is, while young white Americans are clearly aware of interpersonal racism, they seem unwilling to address structural or implicit biases. It may be that racial progress will occur simply because there are fewer young whites relative to people of color.

    http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/1/are-millennials-tolerant-racists.html
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    Jan 31, 2015 12:41 PM GMT
    Very interesting article. I agree with some of what it says. I'm hoping there is still time for them to come to their senses.

    However, this is a repuke's (republican's) dream! They can start the filling/recruiting of their future ranks with more intolerant homophobic & racist bigots!

    I was hoping they were dying off, (And I do mean dying. (That is the only way we'll be rid of them.)), since the old right wing religious bigots of this world will never change their twisted views. Just read the forum posts here that these traitorous repukes on this site have posted. They are most likely loving this article
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    Jan 31, 2015 1:12 PM GMT
    Structural biases have been reduced over time, and there are many institutions which attempt to combat them, such as affirmative action and diversity quotas. As for implicit biases, that is something more subconscious and it exists among every race and will exist as long as people notice race. I think it is pretty clear that today's population is less racist than 10 years ago, and the population 10 years from now will be less racist than today's. That doesn't mean racists will be eliminated though. Just that they will become more and more of a fringe group. Like say, monarchists. What does one propose would make millenials less racist though?
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    Jan 31, 2015 1:46 PM GMT
    What a ridiculous article. First of all, ifs in aljazeera. Which has a vested interest in making America look bad. Second, they were citing studies with 74 (seventy four!!) people in them. You're going to make a conclusion based off of that??
    Most importantly, the racism that exists today is subtle and not easy to fix. So saying millenials don't want to do anything about racism is a bit disingenuous.
    Side note- immigration and racism are very separate issues. Being against uncontrolled undocumented immigration doesn't mean you are based against Mexicans!
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    Jan 31, 2015 3:05 PM GMT
    so if you are against Sharia law in Chelsea you are racist.
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    Jan 31, 2015 3:59 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidWhat a ridiculous article. First of all, ifs in aljazeera. Which has a vested interest in making America look bad. Second, they were citing studies with 74 (seventy four!!) people in them. You're going to make a conclusion based off of that??
    Most importantly, the racism that exists today is subtle and not easy to fix. So saying millenials don't want to do anything about racism is a bit disingenuous.
    Side note- immigration and racism are very separate issues. Being against uncontrolled undocumented immigration doesn't mean you are based against Mexicans!
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    Jan 31, 2015 4:31 PM GMT
    Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it. People form their bias on what they experience (either themselves or through other accounts). So what do people experience when they encounter you? That's the more important question that you can actually control. At least that's how I've been successful in my life.
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    Feb 01, 2015 12:50 AM GMT
    Interestingly although race is not much of an issue where I live, millenials seem to be much less tolerant when it comes to body type, economic class, weight, and age. It's the Mean Girls syndrome.
  • josephmovie

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    Feb 01, 2015 1:40 AM GMT
    I agree with the guy above. I work with a heap of millennials and although they are all terribly PC and anti bullying, they are the first to throw anyone under the train if and attack them personally if they feel it will benefit them in some way.
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    Feb 01, 2015 2:02 AM GMT
    I've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.
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    Feb 01, 2015 9:00 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidI've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.


    And their kids go to private, predominately white schools. And even the "colorful" who manage to pull themselves out of poverty move out of the "sketchy (colorful) parts of town" and send their kids to private or better public schools. Is that necessarily racism or self preservation, wanting better for your children, and smart?
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    Alpha13 saidI've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.


    And their kids go to private, predominately white schools. And even the "colorful" who manage to pull themselves out of poverty move out of the "sketchy (colorful) parts of town" and send their kids to private or better public schools. Is that necessarily racism or self preservation, wanting better for your children, and smart?


    You nailed it regarding the private schools that liberals send their kids to in the city. I heard all about it hiking on Saturday from a teacher who teaches in a $25,000 / year k thru 12 private school in San Francisco .
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    Feb 01, 2015 8:32 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Alpha13 saidI've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.


    And their kids go to private, predominately white schools. And even the "colorful" who manage to pull themselves out of poverty move out of the "sketchy (colorful) parts of town" and send their kids to private or better public schools. Is that necessarily racism or self preservation, wanting better for your children, and smart?


    You nailed it regarding the private schools that liberals send their kids to in the city. I heard all about it hiking on Saturday from a teacher who teaches in a $25,000 / year k thru 12 private school in San Francisco .


    What?!? Complete rubbish!
    To even imply that sending your child to the best schools available to your income level is at all racist is preposterous! I would imagine every parent would want to send their child to the very best schools. Those that can, do. Those that can't due to their financial issues is their problem. It has nothing to do with race.
    I have gone to private schools my entire life. None were completely white. There were blacks and other races there. Equal to the numbers of whites? No of course not. The population isn't equal.

    But it always amazes me that some liberals are so heavily criticized for...being financially comfortable...or in this case sending their prodigy to private schools. The difference between financially comfortable liberals and the repukes is that we liberals actually care about and want the ones that can't afford private schools to have the absolute best education they can while they are at the level they are. By providing money for public schools through our taxes and private donations, this hopefully will give these kids a chance to get into a better college, attain that better education, and pull themselves out of their financial situation as adults.

    So stop criticizing any parent be they Democrat or even repukes for sending their offspring to private schools!
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    Feb 01, 2015 10:02 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Alpha13 saidI've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.


    And their kids go to private, predominately white schools. And even the "colorful" who manage to pull themselves out of poverty move out of the "sketchy (colorful) parts of town" and send their kids to private or better public schools. Is that necessarily racism or self preservation, wanting better for your children, and smart?


    You nailed it regarding the private schools that liberals send their kids to in the city. I heard all about it hiking on Saturday from a teacher who teaches in a $25,000 / year k thru 12 private school in San Francisco .


    What does promoting racial equality have to do with moving your family to a better neighborhood/school system? Wouldn't racial equality mean that all families were able to do this? And aren't there A LOT of conservatives who believe in promoting racial equality or is that just a liberal thing?
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    Feb 02, 2015 1:06 AM GMT
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    Alpha13 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Alpha13 saidI've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.


    And their kids go to private, predominately white schools. And even the "colorful" who manage to pull themselves out of poverty move out of the "sketchy (colorful) parts of town" and send their kids to private or better public schools. Is that necessarily racism or self preservation, wanting better for your children, and smart?


    You nailed it regarding the private schools that liberals send their kids to in the city. I heard all about it hiking on Saturday from a teacher who teaches in a $25,000 / year k thru 12 private school in San Francisco .


    What does promoting racial equality have to do with moving your family to a better neighborhood/school system? Wouldn't racial equality mean that all families were able to do this? And aren't there A LOT of conservatives who believe in promoting racial equality or is that just a liberal thing?


    Because instead of staying in their communities and making a difference they flee and abandon those left behind. They flee to communities with no section eight housing. They want the poor to have affordable housing - just not next door to them. They want the poor to have quality education - just not with their kids. They want the poor to eat and be sheltered but no soup kitchens or shelters in their neighborhoods. The former poor (nouveau riche) don't like the poor any more than old money. Hypocrites the lot of them.

    Equality in this country (USA) has more to do with income than skin color.
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    Feb 02, 2015 3:41 AM GMT
    Amazing how convoluted Repukes logic can get trying to convince themselves that they're no worse than Dems. They consistently are on the wrong side of economics, compassion, morality, and science. I do believe they're genuinely blind to how repulsive they are.
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    Feb 02, 2015 3:47 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    woodfordr said
    Alpha13 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Alpha13 saidI've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.


    And their kids go to private, predominately white schools. And even the "colorful" who manage to pull themselves out of poverty move out of the "sketchy (colorful) parts of town" and send their kids to private or better public schools. Is that necessarily racism or self preservation, wanting better for your children, and smart?


    You nailed it regarding the private schools that liberals send their kids to in the city. I heard all about it hiking on Saturday from a teacher who teaches in a $25,000 / year k thru 12 private school in San Francisco .


    What does promoting racial equality have to do with moving your family to a better neighborhood/school system? Wouldn't racial equality mean that all families were able to do this? And aren't there A LOT of conservatives who believe in promoting racial equality or is that just a liberal thing?


    Because instead of staying in their communities and making a difference they flee and abandon those left behind. They flee to communities with no section eight housing. They want the poor to have affordable housing - just not next door to them. They want the poor to have quality education - just not with their kids. They want the poor to eat and be sheltered but no soup kitchens or shelters in their neighborhoods. The former poor (nouveau riche) don't like the poor any more than old money. Hypocrites the lot of them.

    Equality in this country (USA) has more to do with income than skin color.


    Ah... got it. I guess I'm not privy to those discussions and haven't experienced that candor from a white perspective. I know here in Austin there have been several huge articles about black flight from downtown Austin to the suburbs. And particularly to a suburban area with a high density of other blacks of equal income. So there are definite similarities there.
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    Feb 02, 2015 4:38 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    woodfordr said
    Alpha13 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Alpha13 saidI've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.


    And their kids go to private, predominately white schools. And even the "colorful" who manage to pull themselves out of poverty move out of the "sketchy (colorful) parts of town" and send their kids to private or better public schools. Is that necessarily racism or self preservation, wanting better for your children, and smart?


    You nailed it regarding the private schools that liberals send their kids to in the city. I heard all about it hiking on Saturday from a teacher who teaches in a $25,000 / year k thru 12 private school in San Francisco .


    What does promoting racial equality have to do with moving your family to a better neighborhood/school system? Wouldn't racial equality mean that all families were able to do this? And aren't there A LOT of conservatives who believe in promoting racial equality or is that just a liberal thing?


    Because instead of staying in their communities and making a difference they flee and abandon those left behind. They flee to communities with no section eight housing. They want the poor to have affordable housing - just not next door to them. They want the poor to have quality education - just not with their kids. They want the poor to eat and be sheltered but no soup kitchens or shelters in their neighborhoods. The former poor (nouveau riche) don't like the poor any more than old money. Hypocrites the lot of them.

    Equality in this country (USA) has more to do with income than skin color.


    I Love this.
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    Feb 02, 2015 5:44 AM GMT
    Liberal Democrats provide the poor free handouts which keeps them in poverty. Liberals, try offering a hand up and paying your taxes.
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    Feb 02, 2015 5:53 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidLiberal Democrats provide the poor free handouts which keeps them in poverty. Liberals, try offering a hand up and paying your taxes.

    Why do Repukes always think the best way to deal with the poor is to let them starve? If only the rich had more money, the hungry would do better. It isn't that the Repukes are evil. They really believe their cruelty is for the best.
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    Feb 02, 2015 12:25 PM GMT
    woodfordr said
    UndercoverMan said
    woodfordr said
    Alpha13 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Alpha13 saidI've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.


    And their kids go to private, predominately white schools. And even the "colorful" who manage to pull themselves out of poverty move out of the "sketchy (colorful) parts of town" and send their kids to private or better public schools. Is that necessarily racism or self preservation, wanting better for your children, and smart?


    You nailed it regarding the private schools that liberals send their kids to in the city. I heard all about it hiking on Saturday from a teacher who teaches in a $25,000 / year k thru 12 private school in San Francisco .


    What does promoting racial equality have to do with moving your family to a better neighborhood/school system? Wouldn't racial equality mean that all families were able to do this? And aren't there A LOT of conservatives who believe in promoting racial equality or is that just a liberal thing?


    Because instead of staying in their communities and making a difference they flee and abandon those left behind. They flee to communities with no section eight housing. They want the poor to have affordable housing - just not next door to them. They want the poor to have quality education - just not with their kids. They want the poor to eat and be sheltered but no soup kitchens or shelters in their neighborhoods. The former poor (nouveau riche) don't like the poor any more than old money. Hypocrites the lot of them.

    Equality in this country (USA) has more to do with income than skin color.


    Ah... got it. I guess I'm not privy to those discussions and haven't experienced that candor from a white perspective. I know here in Austin there have been several huge articles about black flight from downtown Austin to the suburbs. And particularly to a suburban area with a high density of other blacks of equal income. So there are definite similarities there.


    When whites do it - flee poverty to live in safer communities with better schools they are racist. When blacks do it it's called movin' on up (cue the theme song from The Jeffersons).

    I contend it isn't racism on either's part; it's classism. But is it necessarily wrong to want better for your family?
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    Feb 03, 2015 5:07 AM GMT
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    woodfordr said
    UndercoverMan said
    woodfordr said
    Alpha13 said
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    Alpha13 saidI've always thought it ironic that no liberal that I have ever known who consistently promote racial equally ever live in the sketchy (colorful) parts of town. This is especially true of gay men. They always pay twice as much in rent to live in the white trendy areas.


    And their kids go to private, predominately white schools. And even the "colorful" who manage to pull themselves out of poverty move out of the "sketchy (colorful) parts of town" and send their kids to private or better public schools. Is that necessarily racism or self preservation, wanting better for your children, and smart?


    You nailed it regarding the private schools that liberals send their kids to in the city. I heard all about it hiking on Saturday from a teacher who teaches in a $25,000 / year k thru 12 private school in San Francisco .


    What does promoting racial equality have to do with moving your family to a better neighborhood/school system? Wouldn't racial equality mean that all families were able to do this? And aren't there A LOT of conservatives who believe in promoting racial equality or is that just a liberal thing?


    Because instead of staying in their communities and making a difference they flee and abandon those left behind. They flee to communities with no section eight housing. They want the poor to have affordable housing - just not next door to them. They want the poor to have quality education - just not with their kids. They want the poor to eat and be sheltered but no soup kitchens or shelters in their neighborhoods. The former poor (nouveau riche) don't like the poor any more than old money. Hypocrites the lot of them.

    Equality in this country (USA) has more to do with income than skin color.


    Ah... got it. I guess I'm not privy to those discussions and haven't experienced that candor from a white perspective. I know here in Austin there have been several huge articles about black flight from downtown Austin to the suburbs. And particularly to a suburban area with a high density of other blacks of equal income. So there are definite similarities there.


    When whites do it - flee poverty to live in safer communities with better schools they are racist. When blacks do it it's called movin' on up (cue the theme song from The Jeffersons).

    I contend it isn't racism on either's part; it's classism. But is it necessarily wrong to want better for your family?


    I think it's likely "All of the Above" versus just one answer only. Both classism and racism feed into movement. For people of many demographics.