Poll Finds Gaping Chasm In Views Between U.S. Public, Scientists

  • metta

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    Jan 31, 2015 4:15 PM GMT
    Poll Finds Gaping Chasm In Views Between U.S. Public, Scientists

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/29/poll-on-climate-change_n_6573296.html
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    Jan 31, 2015 4:27 PM GMT
    Can you blame the public?

    Year after year and lie after lie (coffee kills, coffee saves; fat kills, fat saves) and pandemic after pandemic that never happen!

    The general public just tunes out.


    I just read a lot of hooey on a page about mandated vaccination of school kids..amazing how 90% said "you cannot mandate me to do anything" yet never blink an eye at the ACA mandate!


  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 31, 2015 7:36 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said Can you blame the public?

    Year after year and lie after lie (coffee kills, coffee saves; fat kills, fat saves) and pandemic after pandemic that never happen!

    The general public just tunes out.


    I just read a lot of hooey on a page about mandated vaccination of school kids..amazing how 90% said "you cannot mandate me to do anything" yet never blink an eye at the ACA mandate!


    I have to agree because every time some of these scientists and researchers talk it is more glorified guess work saying that this is bad for you and that is bad for you and blah blah blah. It gets very old and quite irritating after awhile. It seems like everything is bad for you. Well I guess living is bad for you.
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    Jan 31, 2015 8:05 PM GMT
    You guys are confusing sensationalistic news stories with science.

    But then, you are further proving the conclusion of the poll.
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    Jan 31, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
    ^ very funny.

    Here's the whole Pew thang

    http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/01/29/public-and-scientists-views-on-science-and-society/

    Some of the gaps are understandable but some are just stunning.

    An issue like evolution. Yikes. Ya probably wanna go with the science on that one.

    But something like "favor use of animals in research" well, maybe ethical questions make it more debatable.

    I just perused the Pew quickly and what I found interesting was how the public might perceive how the scientists view a topic. Because obviously that would either sway public opinion or hold them in air mid-swing.

    So, for instance:

    Asked whether scientists generally believe that the universe was created in a single violent event often called “the Big Bang,” about four-in-ten (42%) say yes while about half (52%) (of the public) say scientists are generally divided about this issue.


    When, generally or otherwise, they're not divided on that issue.

    http://www.space.com/8066-big-bang-solid-theory-mysteries-remain.html
    On this, most scientists are agreed.

    "I would say that there is 100 percent consensus, really," University of Pennsylvania particle physicist Burt Ovrut said of the Big Bang theory.


    So the public utilizes their misperceptions to support their ignorance. That is so fucked up. And then they vote with that as the basis of what they think they know.
  • Hypertrophile

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    Jan 31, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidYou guys are confusing sensationalistic news stories with science.

    But then, you are further proving the conclusion of the poll.



    You mean that the masses are the asses?

    The problem with polling on complicated matters is you can't expect a majority to be able to come to an informed decision.
  • tj85016

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    Feb 01, 2015 12:33 AM GMT
    it's not science per se, it's how the media and politicians bastardize science to further whatever sick agenda they are pushing
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    Feb 02, 2015 7:58 PM GMT
    Establishing belief systems, marketing , spin, and propoganda.
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    Feb 03, 2015 1:09 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidYou guys are confusing sensationalistic news stories with science.

    But then, you are further proving the conclusion of the poll.


    Yes, MG....that WAS the point of what I was saying!! Although, I think RBR and I know the difference.

    Information overload causes the public to give up, say "Whatever." and go on googling Kim's greasy ass! It's designed to keep the public confused and diverted from what's really happening around us and the world.
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 03, 2015 3:11 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said
    mindgarden saidYou guys are confusing sensationalistic news stories with science.

    But then, you are further proving the conclusion of the poll.


    Yes, MG....that WAS the point of what I was saying!! Although, I think RBR and I know the difference.

    Information overload causes the public to give up, say "Whatever." and go on googling Kim's greasy ass! It's designed to keep the public confused and diverted from what's really happening around us and the world.

    It's not a design or conspiracy. It's just marketing to the lowest common denominator, which comprises superstitious people with average, primitive intelligence, who care more about what they look like than the reality of life on earth.
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 03, 2015 3:12 PM GMT
    I do think "scientists" who give lip service to creationism are unethical charlatans who shouldn't be considered scientists at all.
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    Feb 03, 2015 4:01 PM GMT
    homejames saidEstablishing belief systems, marketing , spin, and propoganda.


    +1
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 06, 2015 2:15 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    StudlyScrewRite said
    mindgarden saidYou guys are confusing sensationalistic news stories with science.

    But then, you are further proving the conclusion of the poll.


    Yes, MG....that WAS the point of what I was saying!! Although, I think RBR and I know the difference.

    Information overload causes the public to give up, say "Whatever." and go on googling Kim's greasy ass! It's designed to keep the public confused and diverted from what's really happening around us and the world.

    It's not a design or conspiracy. It's just marketing to the lowest common denominator, which comprises superstitious people with average, primitive intelligence, who care more about what they look like than the reality of life on earth.
    primitive intelligence, you need to go and stand in front of a mirror and you will clearly see a man of primitive intelligence, an extremist liberal hen known as Minneapolis motor mouth.