Viking Appliances - Are They Worth the it?

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    Jan 31, 2015 8:58 PM GMT
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    I'm renovating my house and I want top of the line appliances but damn.....the Viking fridge I want is $10,000.00! How exactly do they justify these prices? If anyone owns Viking appliances I'd love to know why you bought them and what makes them worth these prices.
  • wesv

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    Jan 31, 2015 9:09 PM GMT
    How ironic it's called Viking Appliances when you can get cheaper stuff at IKEA.
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    Jan 31, 2015 9:24 PM GMT
    wesv saidHow ironic it's called Viking Appliances when you can get cheaper stuff at IKEA.


    Yeah, but I don't want IKEA crap either.
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    Jan 31, 2015 9:30 PM GMT
    Those high-end products go with the size of your house. With my 900 sq.ft. living area, Viking fridge would definitely not match for sure.

    If you already have a dream house where you'll spend the rest of your life there and it's a big house with spacious kitchen, it's worth considering.
  • Destinharbor

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    Jan 31, 2015 9:51 PM GMT
    NO!!! I remodeled my kitchen and went with all Viking except the cooktop which is Meile. The stuff is junk! The oven is slow to preheat. I've burned out three oven control panels. Seals burned up. Doesn't clean properly. The fridge is a cheap box with an expensive cover. Again, seals suck. The dishwasher died in 5 years (electronics, again). And the microwave/hood has been replaced 4 times in 7 years. All the controls are incomprehensible so I use almost none of them (who can remember?). I bought it all because it looked good and I assumed it was comparable to Wolf/Thermador/Sub-Zero because it cost the same. Wrong! And since then, it has been bought out by a Private Equity fund that has it overloaded with debt so my guess is quality is even worse. Manufacturing has been relocate all over the place.

    For oven and cooktop: Wolf or Thermador. D/W: Bosh. Fridge: NO question, Sub-Zero (it is the only one with two compressors, one for the fridge, one for the freezer. Food stays fresh forever because the temp is more uniform.) Micro, don't know. Thermador is awfully good. My last kitchen before moving here I had a Thermador oven that had to be vented to the outside but it was conventional, convection, and micro all in one. You could blast a roast or chicken with super hot convection and at the last second nuke it to evenly finish the interior. Worked great but I also had a little micro on the counter for normal stuff. Do better homework than I did. Ask some home chefs. They know.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:12 PM GMT
    If you're complaining about the price, then no. It's not worth the money. Unless you live in a neighborhood where the average price of a home is $2 million, then you won't make your money back in resale for a professional grade kitchen.

    You can get an awesome high end fridge for under $3000. With the money you save, you can spend it on other things for the kitchen.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    do you really need a semi commercial line (Viking)
    if yes
    try a local commercial restaurant supply house
    -availability costing of parts for the next 20years
    -maintenance level you can do and keep a day job

    i have one freezer and two refrigerators. A single trip to costCo stocks me up fro the whole month. I like to get energy efficient units.

    my personal approach is to loosely build in medium cost appliances that might last 5years. Past that they really get dirty and the maintenance starts to go up. In the rentals i buy rebuilt appliances and have started to use them in my home too. If the unit dosnt meet my needs no big, take it to the re cycle and get better.
    -I keep a budget per year for appliances. Its expected that peoples beat them up or my residence is 20y old and the appliance here fail. Save emotional attachment for people.
    -rebuilt refrigerators dont transport with 100% success.
    -some commercial appliances cant be put directly next to a wall
    -you might need a 1" gas line or a heavy 220vac because all residential cook units are underwhelming.
    -avoid homeDepot, Lowes


    I have plumbing or heating contractors that will get out of bed on a winter sunday for my call. My preference it to do the work my self if i can. I dont know what your expectations are for IKEA or Viking but it seems like a shot in the foot. Just my 2cents, go for it.



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    Jan 31, 2015 10:28 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidNO!!! I remodeled my kitchen and went with all Viking except the cooktop which is Meile. The stuff is junk! The oven is slow to preheat. I've burned out three oven control panels. Seals burned up. Doesn't clean properly. The fridge is a cheap box with an expensive cover. Again, seals suck. The dishwasher died in 5 years (electronics, again). And the microwave/hood has been replaced 4 times in 7 years. All the controls are incomprehensible so I use almost none of them (who can remember?). I bought it all because it looked good and I assumed it was comparable to Wolf/Thermador/Sub-Zero because it cost the same. Wrong! And since then, it has been bought out by a Private Equity fund that has it overloaded with debt so my guess is quality is even worse. Manufacturing has been relocate all over the place.

    For oven and cooktop: Wolf or Thermador. D/W: Bosh. Fridge: NO question, Sub-Zero (it is the only one with two compressors, one for the fridge, one for the freezer. Food stays fresh forever because the temp is more uniform.) Micro, don't know. Thermador is awfully good. My last kitchen before moving here I had a Thermador oven that had to be vented to the outside but it was conventional, convection, and micro all in one. You could blast a roast or chicken with super hot convection and at the last second nuke it to evenly finish the interior. Worked great but I also had a little micro on the counter for normal stuff. Do better homework than I did. Ask some home chefs. They know.


    This is absolutely correct.

    Wolf ranges give incredible control over heat control (if your into cooking). You can actually melt chocolate chips on a paper plate without burning the plate.

    If you are SERIOUS serious, LaCornue but you can buy a decent car for what they cost.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:32 PM GMT
    Yikes. I think I'll steer clear of Viking. My kitchen will be very open once some walls are knocked out but not sure it's big enough to accommodate that fridge. And if they're really not reliable I certainly don't want to pay that kind of money for "pretty" appliances.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:37 PM GMT
    Radd saidYikes. I think I'll steer clear of Viking. My kitchen will be very open once some walls are knocked out but not sure it's big enough to accommodate that fridge. And if they're really not reliable I certainly don't want to pay that kind of money for "pretty" appliances.


    Viking isn't bad per se but the popularity is in large part due to an excellent marketing and product-placement campaign that took full advantage of ( and in part created) the craze for brushed steel, pseudo-industrial appliances.

    Sub Zero is generally the product of choice of those who have been around the block a few times with this stuff.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
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    Radd saidYikes. I think I'll steer clear of Viking. My kitchen will be very open once some walls are knocked out but not sure it's big enough to accommodate that fridge. And if they're really not reliable I certainly don't want to pay that kind of money for "pretty" appliances.


    Viking isn't bad per se but the popularity is in large part due to an excellent marketing and product-placement campaign that took full advantage of ( and in part created) the craze for brushed steel, pseudo-industrial appliances.

    Sub Zero is generally the product of choice of those who have been around the block a few times with this stuff.


    It worked on me (almost.) They are very sleek.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:41 PM GMT
    The advantage of subzero (the now-generic term for a certain type of fridge) refrigerators (Viking included) is that they're good for tight spaces (like apartment galley kitchens) because the compressors are on the top instead of the back.

    The disadvantage of all subzero refrigerators (Viking included) is the every decade or so replacement cost - $7K-10K. Which is probably cheaper than downscaling to a cheaper standard-sized (i.e. shorter and deeper) refrigerator but then having to reconfigure your surrounding cabinetry to accommodate it.

    If you plan on resale in the next five years it'd make sense, but what would make more sense is to spend more money on a professional six burner gas stove to wow non-cooks with.

    Here's a pic of the inside of my fridge from a few years ago:

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    My house came with a subzero which was older than I thought; I was lucky to find one model - a Viking - that fit the space that was marked down from $7K to $5K because it was discontinued. They don't make refrigerators that size anymore so whoever owns this house ten years from now is gonna be screwed and have to reconfigure the whole kitchen. It's the only house on the block with a subzero because the previous owner renovated the sizable kitchen to maximize space.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:42 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidNO!!! I remodeled my kitchen and went with all Viking except the cooktop which is Meile. The stuff is junk! The oven is slow to preheat. ...


    Interesting - we had a dinner at my friends house a couple of weeks ago - everything top of the line (I wired the house, years ago.) The Viking oven took ages to warm up, compared to my cheap GE/Kenmore ones. Good thing I was only using it to warm a dish that I'd already baked at home. It barely did that.
  • coolarmydude

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    Jan 31, 2015 10:51 PM GMT
    No residential refrigerator is worth $10,000. Come on, it has to be practical. There are many quality options that are much lower than this. Do your research.
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    Jan 31, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidThe advantage of subzero (the now-generic term for a certain type of fridge) refrigerators (Viking included) is that they're good for tight spaces (like apartment galley kitchens) because the compressors are on the top instead of the back.

    The disadvantage of all subzero refrigerators (Viking included) is the every decade or so replacement cost - $7K-10K. Which is probably cheaper than downscaling to a cheaper standard-sized (i.e. shorter and deeper) refrigerator but then having to reconfigure your surrounding cabinetry to accommodate it.

    If you plan on resale in the next five years it'd make sense, but what would make more sense is to spend more money on a professional six burner gas stove to wow non-cooks with.

    Here's a pic of the inside of my fridge from a few years ago:

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    My house came with a subzero which was older than I thought; I was lucky to find one model - a Viking - that fit the space that was marked down from $7K to $5K because it was discontinued. They don't make refrigerators that size anymore so whoever owns this house ten years from now is gonna be screwed and have to reconfigure the whole kitchen. It's the only house on the block with a subzero because the previous owner renovated the sizable kitchen to maximize space.


    Sub Zero is its own brand. They bought out Wolf about a decade ago. Viking bought Amana and became known for both refrigeration and cooking appliances.

    People use "subzero" generically ( people used to refer to ALL refrigerators as Frigidaires) but it is still its own brand.

  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 01, 2015 12:53 AM GMT
    Thermador has a very cool new fridge with a dark gray interior. Very sleek. And I trust Thermador to be good quality.
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    Feb 01, 2015 1:02 AM GMT
    After reading all of this I have decided to move My sofa out onto the front porch and put a styrofoam cooler full of beer next to it and just take pot shots at anyone who steps foot on My land....
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    Feb 01, 2015 3:39 AM GMT
    Destinharbor saidThermador has a very cool new fridge with a dark gray interior. Very sleek. And I trust Thermador to be good quality.


    Front a quick Google check, they seem to run just as high as the Vikings.
  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 01, 2015 4:52 AM GMT
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    Destinharbor saidThermador has a very cool new fridge with a dark gray interior. Very sleek. And I trust Thermador to be good quality.


    Front a quick Google check, they seem to run just as high as the Vikings.

    Ya. But better.
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    Feb 01, 2015 4:53 AM GMT
    coolarmydude saidNo residential refrigerator is worth $10,000. Come on, it has to be practical. There are many quality options that are much lower than this. Do your research.

    I know right? Who needs to spend $10K on a fridge only to fill it with take out leftovers and beer? icon_lol.gif
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    eagermuscle saidThe advantage of subzero (the now-generic term for a certain type of fridge) refrigerators (Viking included) is that they're good for tight spaces (like apartment galley kitchens) because the compressors are on the top instead of the back.

    The disadvantage of all subzero refrigerators (Viking included) is the every decade or so replacement cost - $7K-10K. Which is probably cheaper than downscaling to a cheaper standard-sized (i.e. shorter and deeper) refrigerator but then having to reconfigure your surrounding cabinetry to accommodate it.

    If you plan on resale in the next five years it'd make sense, but what would make more sense is to spend more money on a professional six burner gas stove to wow non-cooks with.

    Here's a pic of the inside of my fridge from a few years ago:

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    My house came with a subzero which was older than I thought; I was lucky to find one model - a Viking - that fit the space that was marked down from $7K to $5K because it was discontinued. They don't make refrigerators that size anymore so whoever owns this house ten years from now is gonna be screwed and have to reconfigure the whole kitchen. It's the only house on the block with a subzero because the previous owner renovated the sizable kitchen to maximize space.

    We have a Sub Zero at work. It's junk. The shelves and drawers are fragile. The ice maker jams up everyday.
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    Feb 01, 2015 5:30 AM GMT
    You should post before and after pics of your renovation. icon_biggrin.gif
  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 01, 2015 6:29 AM GMT
    Now that I think about it, you should look at Miele. Stoves and ovens. I think they only do electric but you might check. Great performance and very sleek.
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    Feb 01, 2015 6:40 AM GMT
    Damn, so it seems someone has something negative to say about all the top-end appliances. Maybe I should just go with GE. icon_confused.gif
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    Feb 01, 2015 6:46 AM GMT
    Radd saidDamn, so it seems someone has something negative to say about all the top-end appliances. Maybe I should just go with GE. icon_confused.gif


    Did You really think You would find one unified opinion on here???

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