US Senator Proves How Really Stupid & Irresponsible Republicans Are - Restaurant Workers Shouldn't Have To Wash Their Hands!

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    Feb 04, 2015 2:39 AM GMT
    ...the senator was recalling a time in 2010 when he had a chat with a woman on Starbucks’ health regulations.

    “I said that I don’t have any problem with Starbucks if they choose to opt out of this policy as long as they post a sign that says, ‘We don’t require our employees to wash their hands after leaving the restroom.’ The market will take care of that,” Tillis said.

    “If you let a business or industry opt out as long as they indicate through proper disclosure, through advertising, through employee literature, there’s this level of regulations that maybe they’re on the books,” Tillis said. “But maybe you can make a market based decision as to whether or not they should apply to you.”


    Maybe Starbucks can also make a "market based decision" about whether employees can piss in the coffee, or that employees with Hepatitis can serve me. icon_eek.gif

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senator-restaurant-employees-wash-hands/story?id=28701837
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    Feb 04, 2015 3:16 AM GMT
    So, wait a second. He is saying that he would support taking down a sign in the restroom reminding employees that they are required to wash their hands as long as another sign is visible to all customers declaring that their employees aren't required to wash their hands? He would do away with a regulation that makes sense and replace it with one that doesn't, in the name of "free markets"?

    What an idiot.

    See, every time I hear some "free marketer" talk about "business killing regulations", I usually start screaming at the TV or radio, "Name one!" They never do.

    Well, here's one, I guess.
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    Feb 04, 2015 3:29 AM GMT
    Physiqueflex saidSo, wait a second. He is saying that he would support taking down a sign in the restroom reminding employees that they are required to wash their hands as long as another sign is visible to all customers declaring that their employees aren't required to wash their hands? He would do away with a regulation that makes sense and replace it with one that doesn't, in the name of "free markets"?

    What an idiot.

    See, every time I hear some "free marketer" talk about "business killing regulations", I usually start screaming at the TV or radio, "Name one!" They never do.

    Well, here's one, I guess.

    Yeah, according to this Republican US Senator, having employees wash their hands after they shit is killing business. Never mind that it might kill customers, with hepatitis and other transmittable diseases. The only thing that matters is business.

    His concept is that if Starbucks or other businesses kill some people with unregulated practices, then the "free market" will encourage Starbucks to make employees wash their hands. No need for government involvement.

    EXCEPT, people will have died. And some irresponsible businesses won't give a fuck. Because they aren't all Starbucks.

    The health risk is already known, but this Senator says the government should ignore it, and leave it to the "free market" to police. Will that make you feel safer? When has corporate America ever been responsible with public health, without the government looking over their shoulders?
  • Hypertrophile

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    Feb 04, 2015 3:37 AM GMT
    This is why the conversation should be about specific regulations that either truly hurt businesses unnecessarily, or aren't achieving their objectives, rather then simply (queue the scary Theremin music) regulations. There is logic to every regulation, and from time to time we should decide if that logic is still valid. But we can't simply lift all the rules. The free market simply can't be trusted with the health of our people or the environment.
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    Feb 04, 2015 3:40 AM GMT
    Physiqueflex said
    The free market simply can't be trusted with the health of our people or the environment.

    Don't try telling that to a Right Winger.
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    Feb 04, 2015 4:02 AM GMT
    My God the idiocy of politicians knows no bounds.
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    Feb 04, 2015 5:03 AM GMT
    Clearly a Tard in office.

    ...and yet the left always makes a point to carve out exemptions to health rules for "organic" and "community supported" and other such fraudulent food producers. And people keep dying from it.

    It's not as if the right has a lock on idiocy.
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    Feb 04, 2015 5:33 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidClearly a Tard in office.

    ...and yet the left always makes a point to carve out exemptions to health rules for "organic" and "community supported" and other such fraudulent food producers. And people keep dying from it.

    It's not as if the right has a lock on idiocy.

    True, but the Right has the overwhelming monopoly on it.
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    Feb 04, 2015 6:20 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidClearly a Tard in office.

    ...and yet the left always makes a point to carve out exemptions to health rules for "organic" and "community supported" and other such fraudulent food producers. And people keep dying from it.

    It's not as if the right has a lock on idiocy.


    I'm curious about this. What health rules were exempted? What was the cause of the deaths?
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    Feb 04, 2015 6:37 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidClearly a Tard in office.

    ...and yet the left always makes a point to carve out exemptions to health rules for "organic" and "community supported" and other such fraudulent food producers. And people keep dying from it.

    It's not as if the right has a lock on idiocy.


    Yeah, another similar question .... tell me more. I've made a big change toward that direction as a major part of making of making big dietary changes due to having diabetes.
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    Feb 04, 2015 7:13 AM GMT
    Physiqueflex said
    mindgarden saidClearly a Tard in office.

    ...and yet the left always makes a point to carve out exemptions to health rules for "organic" and "community supported" and other such fraudulent food producers. And people keep dying from it.

    It's not as if the right has a lock on idiocy.


    I'm curious about this. What health rules were exempted? What was the cause of the deaths?


    Bacterial contamination. The only real food safety issue that consumers need to worry about.
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    Feb 04, 2015 7:17 AM GMT
    mindgarden said
    Physiqueflex said
    mindgarden saidClearly a Tard in office.

    ...and yet the left always makes a point to carve out exemptions to health rules for "organic" and "community supported" and other such fraudulent food producers. And people keep dying from it.

    It's not as if the right has a lock on idiocy.


    I'm curious about this. What health rules were exempted? What was the cause of the deaths?


    Bacterial contamination. The only real food safety issue that consumers need to worry about.


    And that's a big one
  • Hypertrophile

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    Feb 04, 2015 2:42 PM GMT
    mindgarden said
    Physiqueflex said
    mindgarden saidClearly a Tard in office.

    ...and yet the left always makes a point to carve out exemptions to health rules for "organic" and "community supported" and other such fraudulent food producers. And people keep dying from it.

    It's not as if the right has a lock on idiocy.


    I'm curious about this. What health rules were exempted? What was the cause of the deaths?


    Bacterial contamination. The only real food safety issue that consumers need to worry about.


    I disagree about bacterial contamination being the only worrisome food safety issue, but in regards to organic food, which in full disclosure I'm not a big advocate of, it is not significantly more likely to be contaminated, not due to farming method. Non-organic, on the other hand, is more likely to lead to increased levels of pesticides and herbicides in your bloodstream, and this is likely to increase with increased farming of GMO foods.

    None the less, I haven't found anything regarding your claim that organic food producers have been exempted from food safety regulations and in fact have found that organic food has more regulations than its chemically produced counterpart.
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 04, 2015 3:29 PM GMT
    One area that's not appropriately regulated by the FDA is vitamin and herbal supplements. I just read an article about Target and Walgreens selling supplements that are not only mislabeled, but by and large contain none of the ingredients they claim to contain, and have caused liver damage and death in some consumers of the supplements. I like taking vitamin C supplements, but if it's not regulated at any level then it's not worth the risk.
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    Feb 04, 2015 4:09 PM GMT
    I want a restaurant that takes the restroom sign:

    EMPLOYEES MUST WASH HANDS

    and puts right next to that:

    AND SO SHOULD YOU!
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    Feb 04, 2015 4:16 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    mindgarden said
    Physiqueflex said
    mindgarden saidClearly a Tard in office.

    ...and yet the left always makes a point to carve out exemptions to health rules for "organic" and "community supported" and other such fraudulent food producers. And people keep dying from it.

    It's not as if the right has a lock on idiocy.


    I'm curious about this. What health rules were exempted? What was the cause of the deaths?


    Bacterial contamination. The only real food safety issue that consumers need to worry about.


    And that's a big one


    Ya think, men? Hopefully this link will work. It also tells us all something about employers that have no sick leave benefits in place, and what happens.

    http://www.kleinlyons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/news_17nov03.pdf
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    Feb 04, 2015 4:20 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidOne area that's not appropriately regulated by the FDA is vitamin and herbal supplements. I just read an article about Target and Walgreens selling supplements that are not only mislabeled, but by and large contain none of the ingredients they claim to contain, and have caused liver damage and death in some consumers of the supplements. I like taking vitamin C supplements, but if it's not regulated at any level then it's not worth the risk.


    That's why I don't take any of this shit. I keep my diet as close to ideal as possible, given the diabetes I have, and then go from there. I had been cycling on and off protein and creatine, but I think I'm going to stop all of it. Long term, it never seems to turn out that any of this stuff is all that good for you.
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    Feb 04, 2015 4:30 PM GMT
    Perhaps the conservative nuts want small government and a smaller population (i.e. dead).
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    Feb 04, 2015 5:14 PM GMT
    dayumm saidI want a restaurant that takes the restroom sign:

    EMPLOYEES MUST WASH HANDS

    and puts right next to that:

    AND SO SHOULD YOU!

    +1

    I sometimes take the paper towel I just used, and open the restroom door with it. Because some guy's unwashed shitty hand was likely on that handle. Then I toss the paper towel in the nearest trash can.

    It's a reason I dislike restrooms that only have a hot air hand dryer, with no paper towels. Some viruses are passed through unwashed hands.

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    Feb 04, 2015 5:23 PM GMT
    i got a laugh on the timing of the republican anti vaccination platform. With early child vaccination rates dipping into 80% we are seeing measles epidemic in warm climates with high child aged populations. DisneyLand.

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    Feb 04, 2015 7:46 PM GMT
    Next: "GOP Senator introduces bill to ban gravity."

    "It's just a theory," said Senator X, "But it's running up the cost of just about everything. I mean, you have to build buildings stronger to resist it, and it accounts for a really big proportion of aviation fuel, and that makes flying more expensive. I think the President is just crazy when he forces it down our throats that we have to respect gravity."
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    Feb 05, 2015 11:56 AM GMT
    All safety regulations are written in blood -- someone was either hurt or even died, prompting the regulation to be written.
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    Feb 05, 2015 1:52 PM GMT
    Do you honestly think a sign will make a person wash their hands?

    I'm not condoning the idiot's idea of businesses opting out of health regulations as long as they disclose it; however, a sign doesn't ensure anything.

    I, like many people here, use public restrooms many times a day (at work) and I'm sure many of you are just as appalled at the number of people who do not wash their hands or flush the toilets or urinals. People are gross. Luckily most of us have healthy, functioning immune systems.
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    Feb 05, 2015 2:25 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidDo you honestly think a sign will make a person wash their hands?

    No, but I'm sure it increases the number who do wash their hands. And may form the basis for legal job termination if they're caught not washing, another incentive to comply.

    Incidentally, while I'm not a real "glad hander"when meeting people, I nevertheless find myself shaking hands throughout the day. And because I don't know where that hand has been, and if the person has some virus, I wash my hands throughout the day.

    Not a neurotic germaphobe like the late Howard Hughes, I merely dislike having dirty & sticky hands, from ordinary tasks like eating. That goes back to my days playing the piano regularly, and now today when just using an iPad.
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    Feb 05, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
    pellaz saidi got a laugh on the timing of the republican anti vaccination platform. With early child vaccination rates dipping into 80% we are seeing measles epidemic in warm climates with high child aged populations. DisneyLand.


    Here comes Art again, with his latest sweeping, overbroad, and illogical guilt-by-association line; I guess those GOPers who supported ENDA and voted against DOMA, as well as those who opposed similar state laws, are "really stupid and irresponsible" too, huh? icon_rolleyes.gif

    Certainly anyone who advocates less stringent health and safety regulations than we have now regarding food workers and immunizations isn't thinking - even dark horse freshmen who dashed Democrats' hopes of keeping a senate majority by winning last November. But considering measles, and other resurgencies of diseases once eradicated in the US, anyone who supports even looser border controls, let alone keeping and propagating illegal aliens in the US to continue spreading these diseases as they have been, isn't thinking either, except perhaps in terms of future voters. That's the other big factor in the measles/immunization debate that dare not speak its name - at least where the MSM is concerned.

    "Let's meet for coffee" at the Starbucks in Raleigh, Art - and I'm buying!