Two US gay men left blind after being infected with rare strain of syphilis (State of Washington)

  • metta

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    Feb 07, 2015 5:34 PM GMT
    Two US gay men left blind after being infected with rare strain of syphilis

    Health officials are calling on Washington single gay men to get checked as soon as possible

    Six cases of ocular syphilis have been reported in the state since mid-December, three gay men, with three being HIV positive



    - See more at: http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/two-us-gay-men-left-blind-after-being-infected-rare-strain-syphilis070215
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    Feb 09, 2015 4:52 AM GMT
    "One refused treatment..." icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 09, 2015 6:05 AM GMT
    PrEP will stop this, right MMTM? Oh wait... icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 09, 2015 7:41 PM GMT
    crazycrazydoesdoes saidPrEP will stop this, right MMTM? Oh wait... icon_lol.gif


    If you want to be stupid and call out MMTM on something he's NEVER SAID, at least read what is printed:

    "Some are concerned that some gay and bisexual men who are using PrEP as a way of avoiding contracting HIV are not using condoms, leading to infection.

    But Amber Tejada, the director of the Gay City Health Project Wellness Center disagrees.

    'Speaking anecdotally, we saw around three thousand folks for screenings in 2014, and there was not a significant increase in people reporting that they were having condomless sex,' she told The Stranger 'I wouldn't associate PrEP with this new outbreak.'
    - See more at: http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/two-us-gay-men-left-blind-after-being-infected-rare-strain-syphilis070215#sthash.FQzpLdki.dpuf
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    Feb 09, 2015 8:25 PM GMT
    Poor reporting here -- syphilis does not have "strains." What is probably meant is that these cases are demonstrating rare manifestations of secondary or tertiary syphilis infection.
    The organism can infect nearly all organs of the body and has been called the "great imitator" [see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1272769/pdf/westjmed00225-0048.pdf for its ability to mimic many other diseases. Early syphilis is readily treated with penicillin; late syphilis is more difficult to treat but recent reports conclude that co-infection with HIV does not change the treatment course or clinical response. Since the infectious lesions may appear on any part of the body's surface, including inside the mouth, throat, urethra and rectum, condoms are not adequate to protect a partner unless the condom is covering the open lesion [i.e. on the penis].
    Routine blood testing is important to detect infection since often there are no symptoms of primary infection if the lesion is internal.
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    Feb 09, 2015 8:45 PM GMT
    ^Of course a disease does not have "strains," but all bacteria do. Treponema pallidum certainly does have different subspecies and strains that can differ in infectivity. It's not clear if that's what the reporter meant. Most likely the reporter didn't understand what she was told.

    Edit: From the King County Health Department advisory:

    "It is not known whether some strains of T. pallidum have a greater likelihood of causing ocular infections, but the current cluster of cases raises this concerning possibility."
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    Feb 10, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
    mindgarden said^Of course a disease does not have "strains," but all bacteria do. Treponema pallidum certainly does have different subspecies and strains that can differ in infectivity. It's not clear if that's what the reporter meant. Most likely the reporter didn't understand what she was told.

    Edit: From the King County Health Department advisory:

    "It is not known whether some strains of T. pallidum have a greater likelihood of causing ocular infections, but the current cluster of cases raises this concerning possibility."


    Not surprising.

    Reporters often do not adequately understand the subjects about which they are writing and that lack of understanding is often reflected in what they write. That is a serious problem in all types of media.

    The silliest mistake I ever saw was in a foreign newspaper. According to an article, a patient and an "ivy". Of course it should have been "IV".
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    Feb 11, 2015 4:58 AM GMT
    FRE0 said

    The silliest mistake I ever saw was in a foreign newspaper. According to an article, a patient and an "ivy". Of course it should have been "IV".


    I was going around and around trying to figure out this translation of a Russian paper that kept calling for use of a "brain column." It took me, like, a month to figure out that they meant a concentrator column. icon_rolleyes.gif

    I should have practiced by re-reading Everything Is Illuminated.
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    Feb 12, 2015 12:21 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    crazycrazydoesdoes saidPrEP will stop this, right MMTM? Oh wait... icon_lol.gif


    What upsets me most about your post is that you find this laughable. Two adults permanently lost their vision due to very unfortunate circumstances yet you think you're being funny by making your highly inappropriate remark. Not to mention you've taken everything I've said about prEP completely out of context.

    Just so you know, syphilis is very commonly contracted from oral to genital contact. It's not only a concern with condomless genital to anal/vaginal contact. So unless everyone uses condoms for oral sex (which hardly anyone does) we won't really ever see a decrease in syphilis infection rates.


    Obviously that is cause for concern. Many guys mistakenly think that oral sex is safe. The organizations that encourage safe sex seem to overlook the fact that oral sex is very common; they seem to think that the only way gay men have sex is anal. Using condoms for oral sex is very rare; actually, it's almost unheard of.
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    Feb 12, 2015 11:40 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    FRE0 said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    crazycrazydoesdoes saidPrEP will stop this, right MMTM? Oh wait... icon_lol.gif


    What upsets me most about your post is that you find this laughable. Two adults permanently lost their vision due to very unfortunate circumstances yet you think you're being funny by making your highly inappropriate remark. Not to mention you've taken everything I've said about prEP completely out of context.

    Just so you know, syphilis is very commonly contracted from oral to genital contact. It's not only a concern with condomless genital to anal/vaginal contact. So unless everyone uses condoms for oral sex (which hardly anyone does) we won't really ever see a decrease in syphilis infection rates.


    Obviously that is cause for concern. Many guys mistakenly think that oral sex is safe. The organizations that encourage safe sex seem to overlook the fact that oral sex is very common; they seem to think that the only way gay men have sex is anal. Using condoms for oral sex is very rare; actually, it's almost unheard of.


    A few years ago I read information on the sexual proclivities of high students in various cities of the US. Many of them engaged in oral sex but when they were asked to take a survey they didn't consider oral sex to actually be a sexual act.


    When former president Clinton was asked whether he had had sex with that woman, he stated that he hadn't. Later he used the excuse that it wasn't really sex because it was oral. It seems that some gay men think the same thing.
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    Feb 13, 2015 1:15 AM GMT
    Note to self: Don't accept a bukake requests from strangers...especially strangers with syphilis.