New Greek government vows to grant same-sex couples legal status

  • metta

    Posts: 39082

    Feb 09, 2015 3:57 PM GMT
    New Greek government vows to grant same-sex couples legal status


    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/02/new-greek-government-vows-to-grant-same-sex-couples-legal-status/
  • Destinharbor

    Posts: 4433

    Feb 09, 2015 5:17 PM GMT
    Wow! I didn't see that coming. It'll be interesting to see how the whole Greek situation settles out. It isn't widely discussed for some reason but to be in the EU, countries have to keep their deficits under control. The reason the Greek debt ballooned without it being noticed was our wonderful Goldman Sachs sold them a bunch of financial instruments that kept it off the books. These banks have got to be brought under control. They needed to cut the unproductive patronage political system but they also need to stimulate their economy to get it moving again. You can't just strangle them forever. That's why the EU isn't recovering as quickly as the US. The conservative governments in Germany, France and the UK (and through them the EU) did pretty much what conservatives in this country wanted which made no sense-- cut spending on safety net programs and infrastructure. It only worsened the situation. Though Greece really was a mess.
  • tj85016

    Posts: 4123

    Feb 09, 2015 5:44 PM GMT
    the best thing Greece can do for itself is to abandon the Euro (and Italy, Spain and Portugal also)

    either these countries get their financing through the ECB (along with the strings attached e.g. "austerity") or they can find private financing through Goldman, CITI, Chase, HSBC, or whomever

    only Germany has benefited from the Euro (and France to a small extent). No way are Greece and Italy going to compete with Germany and France with the noose of a common currency around their necks

    the Euro has failed
  • Destinharbor

    Posts: 4433

    Feb 09, 2015 6:16 PM GMT
    I don't think the euro has been a failure. Your solution just takes them back to floating currencies which had plenty of problems as well. The EU set up parameters of financial management that all considered good governance. The problem was the banks found ways to package products to disguise cheating. Regulators fell asleep with the prevailing attitude that deregulation and decreased over-site, the conservative's mantra, was the way to go.
  • Destinharbor

    Posts: 4433

    Feb 09, 2015 6:18 PM GMT
    Though you may be right about Greece at this point. Not true for Spain. Not sure about Italy. I've been hearing some encouraging things about Italy lately. Portugal needs to stick with Spain.