seafrontbloke saidFrom a different perspective, I was at University in the early 1980s, and the breakout of HIV and its concomitant AIDS pushed me well into the closet for a good ten years afterwards.
I know what HIV and AIDS did to people,m and theres no way I want it to do the same to me.
Hence all sex is safe sex, etc.
I suspect I'm a representative of my generation.
What you most likely represent is the maturity that comes with age. And the ability to control youthful urges, easier when those youthful urges have faded away.
The problem is that today's young generation has those youthful urges already very active. As will the next generation, and the next, ad infinitum. They're starting from ground zero. And trying to educate them is a challenge.
I know, because I work with these groups. My own credibility as an old guy with them is zip. They need to hear it from someone their own age. And so we try to recruit & train young guys who do have credibility, who can connect with them.
You have no creditability regardless of your age. If what you say on here is indicative of that you say to young people in person, it's all fear based, guilt and stigma. And OLD.
Here's some recent finding, less than 1 year old, by leading first world health organizations.
First of all, get up to date before you open your mouth to educate anybody. You are stuck in 90s thinking. Sure, condoms do work, but there is so much more.
Whenever I've posted anything regarding TasP, undetectable, or anything even remotely suggesting that an HIV person can have a normal sex life, and undetectable is a worldwide goal I've been met with your hatred.
All because I've said some people CAN have sex without a condom! Not all, and only under specific circumstances (see ACON above) I got the following (and this is a small sample from ONE thread!)
"You are a fucking nut case. I think you need to just give it up, along with your campaign for negative men to have bareback sex, and go away. Any seconds to that?"
"....his twisted imagination, because we won't endorse his sick campaign for bareback sex with poz guys."
"I think there's an old adage that too much information can be a dangerous thing. Especially in the hands of those who aren't smart enough to understand it. I think we've witnessed a classic example of it right here in this thread, and in a few others on this topic. "
"... if I knew about a man like that I would report him to the health authorities. That would be saving other lives. Hate to sound so Right Wing and Conservative (me of all people) but there's a greater good involved here. Your friend, as you describe him, is a health menace. He should be stopped."
(Below, This may be the GOLD standard of ignorance!)
"So all this BS about sex being safe with an undetectable poz guy is just medical talk dealing with controlled conditions. That has no application, bearing or relevance to the real world situations in which you & I actually operate. And such basic medical research shouldn't be misinterpreted to be providing guidance as to how gay men should behave sexually with each other."
"....but are you saying he now endorses a full-blown looney like you?"
"So also an interesting clash building between theantijock and timmm55, if I'm able to follow this stuff correctly. I recall a movie called "Clash of the Titans"; perhaps this is the "Clash of the Turds"."
Art Deco accused Dr. Fauci of being 'in' on the 'bareback agenda'.
Seriously, you shouldn't advise anyone about HIV on anything. A young gay teen can detect your fear and BS a mile away. You're like a celibate Priest advising a newlywed couple on sex, WTF do you know? Nothing.