Vaccinate your goddamn kids!

  • Eli_jah

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    Feb 12, 2015 1:40 PM GMT
    Possible outbreak of measles in San Fran.

    http://gawker.com/tens-of-thousands-of-san-francisco-commuters-possibly-e-1685352408

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    Feb 12, 2015 3:46 PM GMT
    there is no federal immunization requirement. go figure a 20year old mother has enough medical science background to opt out.


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    Feb 12, 2015 6:58 PM GMT
    Vaccinations cause pneumonia, meningitis, mutations, deformities, mental retardation, flat feet, bad breath, dandruff, and a host of other horrible things. Just ask some of the people here and they'll tell you all about it.
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    Feb 12, 2015 7:08 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidVaccinations cause pneumonia, meningitis, mutations, deformities, mental retardation, flat feet, bad breath, dandruff, and a host of other horrible things. Just ask some of the people here and they'll tell you all about it.


    I think the argument above all is that vaccines can cause autism in children, which has never been proven.

    Vaccines have been responsible for the eradication of many diseases that use to kill thousands of people a year. It is the right thing to do as a citizen of a developed country.

    If you are going to bring children into this world, you better do all you can to protect them from disease and ensure that they, you know, survive.

    Fucking imbeciles.
  • Eli_jah

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    Feb 12, 2015 7:13 PM GMT
    pazzy saidfuck a vaccine. they're injecting folks with who knows what talking about it's a viral contraceptive.


    That's a conspiracy theory.
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    Feb 12, 2015 8:29 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    Mulignan said
    pazzy saidfuck a vaccine. they're injecting folks with who knows what talking about it's a viral contraceptive.


    That's a conspiracy theory.


    fuck that. do you even know what is in these so called "vaccines" and what they do and whatever else?



    Yes, it's a dead or dormant form of the virus, usually, so that the immune system can develop anti-bodies.

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    Feb 12, 2015 9:11 PM GMT
    Who woulda thunk that Mississippi and West Virginia would be ahead on something? icon_confused.gif
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    Feb 12, 2015 9:26 PM GMT
    Why am I not surprised that pazzy and scruffypup are on the same wavelength?
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    Feb 12, 2015 10:11 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    Mulignan said
    pazzy saidfuck a vaccine. they're injecting folks with who knows what talking about it's a viral contraceptive.


    That's a conspiracy theory.


    fuck that. do you even know what is in these so called "vaccines" and what they do and whatever else?



    We have doctors in our family, and they most certainly do, and they make sure their kids have been vaccinated, as well as themselves.

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    Feb 13, 2015 2:46 AM GMT
    You have to protect the herd. And by "you," I mean the herd.

    Automatic death penalty to anti-vaccers!
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    Feb 13, 2015 6:01 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidVaccinations cause pneumonia, meningitis, mutations, deformities, mental retardation, flat feet, bad breath, dandruff, and a host of other horrible things. Just ask some of the people here and they'll tell you all about it.


    I think it's hilarious, and a bit sad, that I know the people whom you're referring to.
  • Marylandbob

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    Feb 13, 2015 10:10 PM GMT
    Why all the worry about OTHER peoples' unvaccinated kids? If the children of those complaining ARE vaccinated, they are safe from any diseases the vaccines protect against, so why get so upset? ( I got the BEST immunity to measles, mumps, and chickenpox, by being deliberately exposed to, and contracting these diseases as a very young kid. ( before age eight) That was the normal practice in the 1950's and before, when there were no such vaccines, and is STILL a viable alternative!)
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    Feb 13, 2015 10:32 PM GMT
    Marylandbob saidWhy all the worry about OTHER peoples' unvaccinated kids? If the children of those complaining ARE vaccinated, they are safe from any diseases the vaccines protect against, so why get so upset? ( I got the BEST immunity to measles, mumps, and chickenpox, by being deliberately exposed to, and contracting these diseases as a very young kid. (Before age icon_cool.gifThat was the normal practice in the 1950's and before, when there were no such vaccines, and is STILL a viable alternative!)


    Erm, Marylandbob, that practice was because there was NO vaccine back then. Parents had to choose, risk the child's life early, or later? Later meant adult onset of illness which was far MORE disabling permanently or fatal than in kids. You don't remember all the sick kids that died, do you? The kids that ened up blind or deaf? Possibly not because they didn't come back to school, they were either buried (dead) or sent to special schools for blind or deaf people, or became shut-ins at home.

    Remember that vaccines give us herd immunity, which is what people who are immune suppressed dues to cancer, other illnesses etc depend upon.
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    Feb 14, 2015 2:42 AM GMT
    un vaccinated children should be prevented from attending public schools.
  • venue35

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    Feb 14, 2015 3:39 AM GMT
    There should be a vaccine for stupidity
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    Feb 14, 2015 3:49 AM GMT
    Dem breeders....
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    Feb 14, 2015 4:00 AM GMT
    pazzy said
    Mulignan said
    pazzy saidfuck a vaccine. they're injecting folks with who knows what talking about it's a viral contraceptive.


    That's a conspiracy theory.


    fuck that. do you even know what is in these so called "vaccines" and what they do and whatever else?



    I don't get this mentality at all. When you get sick, you're going to call the same doctor, be admitted to the same hospital and receive medication by the same pharma companies. Why trust them when you're sick but not when you're vulnerable to sickness? It's like the people who won't evacuate their home before a major hurricane and then call 911 after they're trapped on the roof, putting the lives of rescuers at risk when they should've followed warnings.

    You also asked if Muligan knows what's in the vaccine, the answer being "no." But you know who actually knows what's in the vaccines?... THE DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS. And they are recommending the vaccination. Do you know more than the doctors who are actually studying this?
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    Feb 14, 2015 7:11 AM GMT
    venue35 saidThere should be a vaccine for stupidity

    Vasectomy or for a woman, getting your tubes tied.
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    Feb 14, 2015 11:52 AM GMT
    I think parents who choose not to vaccinate their otherwise healthy children should be charged with neglect.
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    Feb 14, 2015 3:04 PM GMT
    pazzy saidfuck that. do you even know what is in these so called "vaccines" and what they do and whatever else?


    Now there's a brave man. Willing to admit he slept through health class, militantly ignorant about the century he was born in.

    That's OK. Ignorance never killed nobody. Keep up your brave work.
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    Feb 19, 2015 9:37 PM GMT
    http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2015/02/09/384877284/psychological-biases-play-a-part-in-vaccination-decisions
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    Feb 21, 2015 1:05 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidVaccinations cause pneumonia, meningitis, mutations, deformities, mental retardation, flat feet, bad breath, dandruff, and a host of other horrible things. Just ask some of the people here and they'll tell you all about it.


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    ALL THIS!
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    Feb 21, 2015 1:08 PM GMT
    Mulignan said
    pazzy saidfuck a vaccine. they're injecting folks with who knows what talking about it's a viral contraceptive.


    That's a conspiracy theory.


    Evolution is a theory too bitch, doesn't mean it's wrong.
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    Feb 21, 2015 1:47 PM GMT
    Mulignan said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidVaccinations cause pneumonia, meningitis, mutations, deformities, mental retardation, flat feet, bad breath, dandruff, and a host of other horrible things. Just ask some of the people here and they'll tell you all about it.


    I think the argument above all is that vaccines can cause autism in children, which has never been proven.

    Vaccines have been responsible for the eradication of many diseases that use to kill thousands of people a year. It is the right thing to do as a citizen of a developed country.

    If you are going to bring children into this world, you better do all you can to protect them from disease and ensure that they, you know, survive.

    Fucking imbeciles.


    Not only has it not been proven that vaccines cause autism, it's been proven in HUGE studies that it does NOT cause autism.

    Vaccines are part of the reason life expectancy has doubled in the last century. How many of you have ever seen someone with a paralyzed limb from polio? How many have had a friend die of smallpox?
    The reason why none of us under the age of 50 have is because of vaccines. Full stop.
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:48 AM GMT
    http://berkeleysciencereview.com/want-people-get-vaccines-listen/

    It’s pretty clear that most Americans actually believe in vaccines. A Pew research poll from January 29 of this year found that 68% of American adults think that childhood vaccines should be mandatory, so it’s safe to assume that most everyone thinks they are efficacious at preventing disease (which they are). But there are a large number of people who don’t vaccinate their children or themselves for various reasons — such as fear of mercury containing compounds, distrust of pharma companies or the government, and a (non-reproducable and most likely false) link to autism.

    Since the recent measles outbreak in Disneyland in California, the vaccine righteous have had a field-day poking fun at those who refuse vaccines. This has taken the form of saying that declining a vaccine is equivalent to having the breaks removed from your car, and general name calling. While people who satirize those who disagree with them may feel clever or be filled a warm feeling inside for telling someone they’re stupid, they’re not helping their case — they’re being counter-productive and are actively discouraging people from getting vaccines. I’m not being facetious; a Scientific American report (originally published in the journal Pediatrics) last year found that after doctors told parents that there was no link between autism and vaccines, parents were less likely to vaccinate their future children than before being told so. This is in spite of the fact that they knew that vaccines were less harmful than they originally thought.

    Stop being condescending. Stop being a jerk. That’s no way to convince someone that you’re right or that they should do what you say. Listen to their concerns instead, go home and think about it, and then respond in a thoughtful and meaningful way. These people are intelligent and concerned about the health of themselves and their children. The purpose of this article is to listen to those concerns and respond to them — it’s a starting point for discussion, and while it might not convince everyone to get a vaccine, it should point them in some directions where they can continue their research, and hopefully conclude that the benefits to themselves and most importantly, their children, come as a result of getting vaccinated.

    Many people (including friends of mine) don’t want to be exposed to the mercury containing compound, thimerosal, that is found in some vaccines. To start any conversation about toxicity, one needs to talk about dose. Toxicity is a dose dependant property. Water can be toxic if you drink too much of it. Water has actually killed people; the condition is called acute hyponatremia and is caused by overhydration. Chemicals generally perceived as “toxic” means that small doses can be harmful, though anything can be harmful in a large enough dose. I wrote a previous blog post on metallic mercury, which has a hard time killing you, though it still can be dangerous. But the mercury in thimerosal is organic mercury, which can be pretty nasty and generally bioavailable. So why is it used in vaccines? The FDA classifies it as a preservative, because it can kill bacteria (such as staphylococci, or staph) that can contaminate vaccines and infect you once you are injected. Thimerosal is used to kill bacteria because it’s toxic, and if it’s injected in you, maybe that’s less than ideal. Which is why the FDA is working with companies to remove thimerosal from flu vaccines for children (many formulations already are mercury free). Thimerosal also is not used in MMR vaccines. In a similar vein, the FDA also recommends that pregnant women and young children avoid eating swordfish (which is delicious), because there’s bioavailable mercury in it as well. The dose of mercury in vaccines is at most 25 micrograms, compared to 147 micrograms for a scrumptious 4-ounce swordfish steak, and the lethal dose of thimerosal is 75 milligrams per kilogram of patient weight. That is, the amount of mercury present in a vaccine is around 0.003 % of a lethal dose for a 25 pound child, six times less than a fish steak*. Many vaccines now have alternate, milder preservatives without any metals, or no preservative at all. The other preservatives that are currently used are phenol, benzethonium chloride, and 2-phenoxyethanol, which range from one quarter to one-sixteenth as toxic as thimerosal according to lethal dose data (acute toxicity data can be found in section 11 of the material safety data sheets, which are linked). The way I like to think about the preservatives is as follows: before a doctor gives you a shot, they will take an alcohol swab to your arm to kill any surface bacteria that could infect you. The preservatives work the same way — they kill any bacteria that could have potentially contaminated the vaccine, making it safer. The chemicals used as preservatives are in doses well below the toxic range for humans and are only harmful to bacteria, that is, they are safe for all intents and purposes. The problem with using naturally occurring antibiotics as a preservative is that some bacteria are immune to almost all of them, like MRSA, our (not-so) friendly staph bacteria that has contaminated vaccines before preservatives were used.

    I get it. Chemicals can be scary. But the thought of a child or loved one dying from an easily preventable disease scares me much more.

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