That Bachelor's Degree Rand Paul Said He Had? It Doesn't Exist

  • metta

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    Feb 14, 2015 6:10 AM GMT
    That Bachelor's Degree Rand Paul Said He Had? It Doesn't Exist



    http://www.bustle.com/articles/64242-that-bachelors-degree-rand-paul-said-he-had-it-doesnt-exist
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    Feb 14, 2015 6:30 AM GMT
    Pretty standard behavior for politicians. Usually they can get away with lying about college degrees. It's lying about military service that sends them down in flames. Except Raygun. "Oh, I forgot that was just a movie I acted in."
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    Feb 15, 2015 12:28 AM GMT
    wow, lying seems to be the new keeping it real.
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 15, 2015 1:21 AM GMT
    Rand Paul is a LIAR!

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  • musclmed

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    Feb 15, 2015 4:06 AM GMT
    Seems after a 8 year hiatus of delving into politicians grades and degrees we are back at it with Scott Walker and Rand Paul.

    The press largely ignored the fact that Obama bounced around several schools.

    GW Bush was a C student, but so was Al Gore.


    I guess they are making up for the loss now.

    You could say that a Medical degress is a biology degree.

  • metta

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    Feb 15, 2015 4:20 AM GMT
    Rand Paul Tries To Embarrass Hillary Clinton With Fake Pinterest Account, Embarrasses Self Instead

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/02/14/rand-paul-tries-to-embarrass-hillary-clinton-with-fake-pinterest-account-embarrasses-self-instead/
  • mybud

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    Feb 15, 2015 4:38 AM GMT
    musclmed saidSeems after a 8 year hiatus of delving into politicians grades and degrees we are back at it with Scott Walker and Rand Paul.

    The press largely ignored the fact that Obama bounced around several schools.

    GW Bush was a C student, but so was Al Gore.


    I guess they are making up for the loss now.

    You could say that a Medical degress is a biology degree.

    What schools did Obama bounce around?..I call bullshit on this statement.
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 15, 2015 7:14 AM GMT
    @MyBud @MuscleMed

    You're right, Obama did not "bounce around" colleges. @MuscleMed is just saying conservative talking points.

    Obama studies two years at Occidental in California, then transferred to Columbia University, whereupon he obtained an undergraduate degree in 1983. He graduated on time, in 4 years per usual.

    He then worked until 1988, when he entered Harvard Law School to become a better community organizer in Chicago, which he did. He graduated in 3 years, per usual.

    One transfer, to a better school, and staying on the 4 year standard course is NOT bouncing around. Speaking of lies and the liars who tell them: Rand Paul is a da*n liar (though he did obtain a medical degree from Duke--back when having an undergrad wasn't a prerequisite), Walker is without a college degree too, and SARAH PALIN bounced around at FIVE COLLEGES (5) in six years.
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    Feb 15, 2015 10:58 PM GMT
    Well if he's gotten this far without it, what does that say about whether it's needed?
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    Feb 15, 2015 11:30 PM GMT
    woodfordr saidWell if he's gotten this far without it, what does that say about whether it's needed?

    It was apparently needed to impress an interviewer, and his audience. Read the link. And it wasn't 1 degree, but 2: English & Biology.

    For English there is no evidence whatsoever of a degree. For Biology the Rand camp is now claiming, after the interview, that medicine involves biology, so that would be a correct statement for an MD.

    Except, I was a University Asst. Registrar, my duties including evaluation of transfer student transcripts, and determining final eligibility for issuance of diplomas. You know, tallying up all the credits, validating that these course and their grades were adequate for a degree in accordance with degree requirements.

    And no way is a Doctor of Medicine the same as an undergraduate degree in Biology. If it were equivalent and issued concurrently then Dr. Rand could produce his separate undergraduate diploma in Biology. He can't, no more than he can produce a degree in English, which he claimed he also has.
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    Feb 16, 2015 3:43 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    woodfordr saidWell if he's gotten this far without it, what does that say about whether it's needed?

    It was apparently needed to impress an interviewer, and his audience. Read the link. And it wasn't 1 degree, but 2: English & Biology.

    For English there is no evidence whatsoever of a degree. For Biology the Rand camp is now claiming, after the interview, that medicine involves biology, so that would be a correct statement for an MD.

    Except, I was a University Asst. Registrar, my duties including evaluation of transfer student transcripts, and determining final eligibility for issuance of diplomas. You know, tallying up all the credits, validating that these course and their grades were adequate for a degree in accordance with degree requirements.

    And no way is a Doctor of Medicine the same as an undergraduate degree in Biology. If it were equivalent and issued concurrently then Dr. Rand could produce his separate undergraduate diploma in Biology. He can't, no more than he can produce a degree in English, which he claimed he also has.


    Ah... good points!
  • musclmed

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    Feb 16, 2015 5:22 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    woodfordr saidWell if he's gotten this far without it, what does that say about whether it's needed?

    It was apparently needed to impress an interviewer, and his audience. Read the link. And it wasn't 1 degree, but 2: English & Biology.

    For English there is no evidence whatsoever of a degree. For Biology the Rand camp is now claiming, after the interview, that medicine involves biology, so that would be a correct statement for an MD.

    Except, I was a University Asst. Registrar, my duties including evaluation of transfer student transcripts, and determining final eligibility for issuance of diplomas. You know, tallying up all the credits, validating that these course and their grades were adequate for a degree in accordance with degree requirements.

    And no way is a Doctor of Medicine the same as an undergraduate degree in Biology. If it were equivalent and issued concurrently then Dr. Rand could produce his separate undergraduate diploma in Biology. He can't, no more than he can produce a degree in English, which he claimed he also has.


    First from your thousands of posts which often contradict themselves,Art_Deco you have no credibility. ( one of which you stated you should be granted an honorary medical degree because of your fund of knowledge of medicine.) Just spare us your sanctimonious lecture. You have no clue what it takes for a MD degree.

    Second , from the standpoint of a "biology" degree. A BA or BS in Biology is addressed in about the first 3 months of the first year of Medical School. Its almost irrelevant.

    As for the English degree I cannot speak to that.

    It is very odd that he was able to gain entry into medical school without an undergraduate degree.

    This story is unusual to a point that he would have trouble getting hospital privileges because all of those credentials are checked often for physicians. If he was deficient why wouldn't he try to go back and receive credit for deficient courses? In fact I think it would have taken little or no effort. As most Undergraduate institutions love adding MD's to Alumni roles.

    Its bizarre.
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    Feb 16, 2015 5:44 AM GMT
    musclmed said
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    Second , from the standpoint of a "biology" degree. A BA or BS in Biology is addressed in about the first 3 months of the first year of Medical School. Its almost irrelevant.
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    Wrong. While many M.D.s do indeed seem to think that biology is irrelevant, what they get is the 201 series watered down crap for non-majors. (I teach it to them.) it's like the first couple of months of a biology degree. After all, M.D.s only have to deal with ONE organism. Or more often, only a part of one organism.
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    Feb 16, 2015 6:11 AM GMT
    mindgarden said
    musclmed said
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    Second , from the standpoint of a "biology" degree. A BA or BS in Biology is addressed in about the first 3 months of the first year of Medical School. Its almost irrelevant.
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    Wrong. While many M.D.s do indeed seem to think that biology is irrelevant, what they get is the 201 series watered down crap for non-majors. (I teach it to them.) it's like the first couple of months of a biology degree. After all, M.D.s only have to deal with ONE organism. Or more often, only a part of one organism.


    You teach Biology to medical students?

    WHICH MD's feel it is irrelevant?

    I am not talking about a undergraduate premed construct degree. As in "pre med" ....

    I am talking about graduate Medical school.

    And I know you dont teach it to "Medical students", so its not "wrong". Because I am familiar with the curriculum.
  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 16, 2015 2:26 PM GMT
    I think this is petty. If his work was sufficient to get him into Duke Med, I have no problem with the presumption of Undergraduate sufficiency. It's hard to get into Duke. Great school. Leave the silliness to the Repukes and FOX. I once was in the process of hiring a guy whose resume included a Masters from UVA. We had a deal subject to drug and background checks. At the last minute I got a call from HR saying he did not have the Masters and I should withdraw the offer. When I checked into it myself I found he'd completed the requirements for a Masters but they wouldn't send him his diploma until he paid a $38 library late fine.

    Guys, the Repukes live on this level. Not us.
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    Feb 17, 2015 6:37 AM GMT
    Rand did so well in undergrad that he was able to get into a prestigious medical school without having to enter his senior year. That's pretty impressive.
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 17, 2015 5:27 PM GMT
    libertpaulian saidRand did so well in undergrad that he was able to get into a prestigious medical school without having to enter his senior year. That's pretty impressive.


    Nobody "had to" enter their senior year, it wasn't a requirement for admission to Duke's School of Medicine at the time. Obviously things have changed, and such a feat today would be remarkable. Less so back then.
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    Feb 17, 2015 9:45 PM GMT
    I wonder how the Right and Fox News would react if Obama or Hillary Clinton publicly claimed to have college degrees they didn't actually have? Any guesses?


    And the Republican House would already be scheduling hearings. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 17, 2015 11:29 PM GMT
    @ArtDeco, here's how FoxNews would react if Obama's degrees weren't actually degrees:

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  • metta

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    Feb 18, 2015 4:19 PM GMT
    (Old article)

    Dr. Paul: Not board-certified, but self-certified


    Asked by a Louisville reporter when he would explain his dubious certification, Rand Paul said: "Uh ... never"


    http://www.salon.com/2010/06/14/rand_2/
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 18, 2015 5:46 PM GMT
    metta8 said(Old article)

    Dr. Paul: Not board-certified, but self-certified


    Asked by a Louisville reporter when he would explain his dubious certification, Rand Paul said: "Uh ... never"


    http://www.salon.com/2010/06/14/rand_2/


    LOL. This is hilarious. "Self-certified." My goodness. Incidentally, most state bar's explicitly permit a lawyer to call himself or herself a "doctor" (kind of like PhD) because we hold a "juris doctor," and are technically doctors. It's an issue regarding false and misleading statements, which is why most state bar ethic's committees have had to address the issue.

    So you'll be happy to know, I've never referred to myself as a "doctor." But as long as Mr. Paul is a "doctor," then I shall henceforth be addressed as "Dr."

    I feel so much more distinguished. icon_cool.gif