Stoned drivers are a lot safer than drunk ones, new federal data show

  • metta

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    Feb 16, 2015 2:06 AM GMT
    Stoned drivers are a lot safer than drunk ones, new federal data show

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/02/09/stoned-drivers-are-a-lot-safer-than-drunk-ones-new-federal-data-show/
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    Feb 16, 2015 4:30 AM GMT
    icon_rolleyes.gif Bullshit. There aren't actually enough data to make that comparison.
  • musclmed

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    Feb 16, 2015 5:10 AM GMT
    Probably true.


    The old fashioned sobriety testing is more reliable for cannabis at this point.

    What is more of a problem is driving under the influence of prescription drugs.
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    Feb 16, 2015 12:43 PM GMT
    The comparison required is who's more likely to be texting, the drunk driver or the stoned one.
  • 24hourguy

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    Feb 16, 2015 2:50 PM GMT
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    Feb 16, 2015 4:43 PM GMT
    When I worked for the Motorsports park we much rathered the guys who came to ride the go-karts stoned to all the others. They all drove like gramma and respected everyone else, plus when somebody bumper them or cut them off they were very "whatev" about it
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    Feb 16, 2015 9:59 PM GMT
    And your point is? People should be allowed to drive stoned?

    Personally I'd prefer people drive unimpaired.
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    Feb 17, 2015 12:34 AM GMT
    metta8 saidStoned drivers are a lot safer than drunk ones, new federal data show

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/02/09/stoned-drivers-are-a-lot-safer-than-drunk-ones-new-federal-data-show/


    lol I didn't need data to figure that out.
  • LJay

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    Feb 17, 2015 3:21 AM GMT
    And?
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    Feb 17, 2015 5:02 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidicon_rolleyes.gif Bullshit. There aren't actually enough data to make that comparison.


    Ive never heard of a stoned driver getting into a serious accident compared to the thousands of drunk drivers getting into serious accidents.. Don't really need data to prove that stoned drivers > drunk drivers :
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    Feb 18, 2015 6:41 AM GMT
    Horse. Shit.
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    Feb 18, 2015 3:44 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said... People should be allowed to drive stoned...

    YESSS
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    Feb 18, 2015 6:07 PM GMT
    Fuck, that's what we need. It's bad enough with people texting and driving.

    I'm all for weed. But goddammit, stay off the fucking road.
  • bobbobbob

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    Feb 18, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
    This is a great example of a biased sample on top of a confirmation bias on top of a informal fallacy and some cherry picking.

    Perhaps they are less dangerous behind wheels than drunks but that in no way should be interpreted as stoners being less dangerous overall or capable of functioning in situations demanding rational decision making or rapid responses to events.

    I tolerated use of marijuana with my seasonal employees up to Spring 1988. They were paid for work performed, not an hourly wage. Conscientious drug free employees easily made the equivalent of $11 to $14 an hour (more than any hourly or salaried employees). Druggies barely made half that. One afternoon they were working and a woman slid an exacto knife into her lap, knicking her femoral artery. The stoners could not decide who should contact the front office, the police, 911, or where to hide their drugs or if they should all leave and let her die. She died!!!!!! The coroner said it took her a full 15-20 minutes to bleed out! NO ONE HAD THE BRAINS TO ACT! The woman had a nephew and a cousin working with her. They were more worried about their damned drugs than saving her life.

    Once I instituted drug screening and testing, employee performance increased dramatically overall, sick days and injuries went down AND fewer employees quit.

    Imagine a stoned EMT or mechanic. Don't even try to to present them as more competent than drunks until you've trusted your lives to them.





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    Feb 19, 2015 11:27 AM GMT
    ^

    Uhh, she couldn't manage to scream for help or pick up a phone before she bled out? I call bullshit.

    And what in the hell do you do for a living? It reads as if you're running a sweat shop full of morons.

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  • bobbobbob

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    Feb 20, 2015 5:25 PM GMT
    She was too stoned. No one, including her, seemed to think it was anything but a small cut squirting blood. She went to the restroom and died there.
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    Feb 20, 2015 9:58 PM GMT
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    Sorry, man, but I don't buy it.

    Can you send a link or some type of proof that this actually happened, and that marijuana was at least partially to blame?
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 20, 2015 10:19 PM GMT
    If you smoke, stay off the road.

    DEAD IS DEAD.
  • metta

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    Feb 25, 2015 9:09 PM GMT
    Researchers say marijuana is over 100 times safer than alcohol–reaffirming what we all know

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/24/1366550/-Researchers-say-marijuana-is-over-100-times-safer-than-alcohol-reaffirming-what-we-all-know

    Marijuana may be even safer than previously thought, researchers say
    New study: We should stop fighting marijuana legalization and focus on alcohol and tobacco instead
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/02/23/marijuana-may-be-even-safer-than-previously-thought-researchers-say/

    (Please note that I'm not advocating the use of marijuana. I'm not really against the use or for it. People use it and will continue to use it. Some people find that it benefits them to use it. I have never tried it myself. However, I am a big supporter of growing hemp for industrial and food use.
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    Feb 25, 2015 9:27 PM GMT
    "I have never tried it myself."

    would be lovely on a tee shirt.