The Democratic case for Impeachment

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    Barack Obama is doing damage to the Democrat Party that, while not irreparable, may well take decades if not longer to recover from. Not just on Capitol Hill -- from Canada to Mexico, Atlantic to Pacific, governor’s mansions to local school boards Obama is obliterating Democrats everywhere. He’s fortifying red state strongholds, turning purple states red, and even toppling Democrat seats in solidly blue states. Republicans should almost lament the 22nd Amendment. With another term in office Obama could well deliver the governorships of California and New York to go along with the gifts of Maryland, Illinois, and Massachusetts he just airmailed them in November.

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    Feb 17, 2015 12:59 PM GMT
    I Doubt if New York will ever become either a purple swing state or a red republican state. Most urban and suburban New Yorkers are blind sycophants to the democratic blue. It is just the rural areas and small towns that are red republican and they are clearly in the minority. States like Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and even Hawaii all will turn republican red long before New York makes a half assed attempt to become a purple swing state.
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    A radical Right Wing site. From a blogger with no particular credentials, who's authored these interesting articles. Somehow I don't think Democrats are thinking along his lines, nor will be taking any cues from him.

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    socalfitness saidExcerpt:

    Barack Obama is doing damage to the Democrat Party that, while not irreparable, may well take decades if not longer to recover from. Not just on Capitol Hill -- from Canada to Mexico, Atlantic to Pacific, governor’s mansions to local school boards Obama is obliterating Democrats everywhere. He’s fortifying red state strongholds, turning purple states red, and even toppling Democrat seats in solidly blue states. Republicans should almost lament the 22nd Amendment. With another term in office Obama could well deliver the governorships of California and New York to go along with the gifts of Maryland, Illinois, and Massachusetts he just airmailed them in November.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/the_emdemocraticem_case_for_impeachment.html


    Another good one.

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    Feb 17, 2015 1:13 PM GMT
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    Another good one.

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    Another Christian wingnut blogger, you mean. You insult everyone's intelligence by even posting lunatic crap like that here.

    And that's not including all the homophobic gay hatred he spews. You do know RJ is a gay site, right? Even is you're admittedly not gay yourself, you should at least show some respect for the rest of us who are.
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    freedomisntfree said
    Another good one.

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    Another Christian wingnut blogger, you mean. You insult everyone's intelligence by even posting lunatic crap like that here.


    And who annointed you spokesperson for "everyone"?

    Liberal Democrat Message: Americans Who Oppose Sharia Law Being Imposed On Them Are Bigots
    February 16, 2015

    Let me just start with an entirely separate incident to frame this story about the wickedness, dishonesty and vileness of liberals and liberalism before I move on to the elected Democrat official’s being wicked, dishonest and vile.

    We just had a shooting homicide of three young Muslim students at Chapel Hill. Let’s see who the shooter is:

    Mr. Hicks appeared to have a deep dislike of all religion. On his Facebook page, nearly all of his posts expressed support for atheism, criticism of Christian conservatives or both.

    Last month, he posted a photograph that said, “Praying is pointless, useless, narcissistic, arrogant, and lazy; just like the imaginary god you pray to.”

    Mr. Hicks’s wife, Karen, insisted at a news conference that her husband was not a bigot. “I can say with absolute belief that this incident had nothing to do with religion or the victims’ faith, but it was related to a longstanding parking dispute that my husband had with the neighbors,” she said.

    His wife also pointed out his support for gay rights and the right to abortion.

    [Video] Wife Says Gunman Believed in Equality

    Karen Hicks, the wife of Craig Stephen Hicks, who is accused of murdering three Muslim students, said he championed individuals’ rights on his Facebook page and believed everyone was equal.

    Okay, so the shooter is a rabid atheist who hates conservatives and Christians and is a rabid supporter of abortion and homosexual marriage. I know what you’re thinking: if this clown doesn’t spend all day getting his worldview fed to him by Fox News, then I’m the world’s greatest athlete.

    Oh, you’re not thinking that because that would be idiotic, given that Fox News if anything presents the very opposite of this turd?

    Well, that doesn’t stop the left from framing Fox News for the work of one of their own fascist slimeballs. I actually saw the coverage on MSNBC blaming Fox News, but here’s the work of CNN doing it:

    Shafi Khan, a self-described friend of the Muslim students shot dead Tuesday in North Carolina, specifically blamed Fox News, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Oklahoma state Rep. John Bennett for what he called the “dehumanization of Muslims.”

    “Speaking as an American Muslim, I can tell you that we can’t deny there’s a sentiment in the community that we feel that we were being targeted for our faith,” Mr. Khan, a North Carolina native who co-founded United Muslim Relief, told CNN. “There is certain sections of the media and political apparatus that are constantly dehumanizing Muslims. And I want to take a minute and ask people like Fox News and Bobby Jindal to stop the dehumanization of Muslims. It’s really, really starting to take a toll.”

    Craig Stephen Hicks, 46, was arrested and charged with three counts of first-degree murder after turning himself in to Chapel Hill authorities for the shooting deaths of Deah Shaddy Barakat, 23, his wife, Yusor Mohammad, 21, and her sister, Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha, 19.

    Apart from the fact that the leftist press is trying to blame the ONE network we can safely assume atheist abortion loving sodomy worshiper Craig Hicks DID NOT watch, what else do we have? Of course we’ve got these rabid liberals screaming to take away our guns, but who are the murderous whackjobs that kill with guns? The very liberals who want to take them away. Which is another way of pointing out the fact that “liberal” or “Democrat” is a synonym for “liar” and “hypocrite without shame, honor or decency.”

    We live in an age when our journalists from the very top level down are simply nothing more than documented liars. Truth is virtually impossible in this climate.

    But we have a liar-in-chief as the leader of the free world.

    Obama has repeatedly argued that Islam has nothing to do with the scourge of terrorism that has exploded under his presidency:

    I have made it clear that America will not base our entire foreign policy on reacting to terrorism. Rather, we have waged a focused campaign against al Qaeda and its associated forces – taking out their leaders, and denying them the safe-havens they rely upon. At the same time, we have reaffirmed that the United States is not and never will be at war with Islam. Islam teaches peace. Muslims the world over aspire to live with dignity and a sense of justice. And when it comes to America and Islam, there is no us and them – there is only us, because millions of Muslim Americans are part of the fabric of our country.

    And yet Barack Obama just went on national television and basically said that there is a moral equivalence between what Muslim terrorists are doing RIGHT NOW TODAY and what Christians allegedly did A THOUSAND DAMN YEARS AGO in the Medieval world as a response to Muslims attacking one of their own Christian empires:

    Obama spotlights ‘terrible deeds in the name of Christ’ during Crusades
    By Douglas Ernst – The Washington Times – Thursday, February 5, 2015

    President Obama used the annual National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday to draw those in attendance to the “terrible deeds” committed “in the name of Christ.”

    While speaking at the Washington event, Mr. Obama had harsh words for the Islamic State group, but he also put a spotlight on the Crusades.

    “Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ,” Mr. Obama said.
    SEE ALSO: Obama equates Islamic terrorism with ‘terrible deeds’ committed by Christians
    The president added that members of the Sunni radical terror group are part of “brutal vicious death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism.”

    The president’s speech came just days after Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kassasbeh was burned alive by the Islamic State group. The member of the U.S.-led coalition had been held prisoner since December after his F-16 crashed.

    So we catch Obama in the act of blaming religion in general and then specifically trying to create a false moral equivalence and point his finger at Christians while shielding the religion of Islam that is actually responsible for 99.999% of violent acts of terror today. You know, excluding the ones that atheists are responsible for.

    The problem is that atheism is itself a religious worldview with all the defining characteristics of a religious worldview. The problem is that atheism is responsible for more brutal murders in the last century than every other religious worldview in all of history (even including psycho Islam) has ever been COMBINED. And the problem is that Christianity – to the extent that it actually needed to do so – reformed hundreds of years ago and why in the HELL are liberals and Democrats doing everything they can to prevent Islam from needing to reform itself the same way as they constantly try to say that terrorism committed by Muslims in the name of Allah and Islam have nothing to do with Muslims, Allah or Islam???

    G.K. Chesterton stated the fact that:

    Lenin said that religion is the opium of the people… [But] it is only by believing in God that we can ever criticize the Government. Once abolish the God, and the Government becomes the God. That fact is written all across human history; but it is written most plainly across that recent history of Russia; wh
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    Art_Deco said
    freedomisntfree said
    Another good one.

    https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/

    Another Christian wingnut blogger, you mean. You insult everyone's intelligence by even posting lunatic crap like that here.

    And that's not including all the homophobic gay hatred he spews. You do know we're a gay site, right? Even is you're admittedly not gay yourself, you should at least show some respect for the rest of us who are.


    At about the same time YOU start showing a modicum of respect for those who might disagree with you and not a second before.
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    Feb 17, 2015 1:20 PM GMT
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    And who annointed you skokeperson for "everyone"?

    What's a "skokeperson"? Maybe you need to go back to bed and sleep it off.
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    freedomisntfree said
    Art_Deco said
    freedomisntfree said
    Another good one.

    https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/

    Another Christian wingnut blogger, you mean. You insult everyone's intelligence by even posting lunatic crap like that here.

    And that's not including all the homophobic gay hatred he spews. You do know we're a gay site, right? Even is you're admittedly not gay yourself, you should at least show some respect for the rest of us who are.

    At about the same time YOU start showing a modicum of respect for those who might disagree with you and not a second before.

    Disagree with me, fine. Hate & despise me for being gay, no. And so when you post lunacy here from Christian fundamentalist homophobes it's you who lose all respect from me. Those aren't opinions you're posting, it's anti-gay hate.
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    Art_Deco said
    freedomisntfree said
    Art_Deco said
    freedomisntfree said
    Another good one.

    https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/

    Another Christian wingnut blogger, you mean. You insult everyone's intelligence by even posting lunatic crap like that here.

    And that's not including all the homophobic gay hatred he spews. You do know we're a gay site, right? Even is you're admittedly not gay yourself, you should at least show some respect for the rest of us who are.

    At about the same time YOU start showing a modicum of respect for those who might disagree with you and not a second before.

    Disagree with me, fine. Hate & despise me for being gay, no. And so when you post lunacy here from Christian fundamentalist homophobes it's you who lose all respect from me. Those aren't opinions you're posting, it's anti-gay hate.


    I don't "hate" or despise. I leave that to the experts of hate and despise .... you!!!

    So here, again.

    Liberal Democrat Message: Americans Who Oppose Sharia Law Being Imposed On Them Are Bigots
    February 16, 2015

    Let me just start with an entirely separate incident to frame this story about the wickedness, dishonesty and vileness of liberals and liberalism before I move on to the elected Democrat official’s being wicked, dishonest and vile.

    We just had a shooting homicide of three young Muslim students at Chapel Hill. Let’s see who the shooter is:

    Mr. Hicks appeared to have a deep dislike of all religion. On his Facebook page, nearly all of his posts expressed support for atheism, criticism of Christian conservatives or both.

    Last month, he posted a photograph that said, “Praying is pointless, useless, narcissistic, arrogant, and lazy; just like the imaginary god you pray to.”

    Mr. Hicks’s wife, Karen, insisted at a news conference that her husband was not a bigot. “I can say with absolute belief that this incident had nothing to do with religion or the victims’ faith, but it was related to a longstanding parking dispute that my husband had with the neighbors,” she said.

    His wife also pointed out his support for gay rights and the right to abortion.

    [Video] Wife Says Gunman Believed in Equality

    Karen Hicks, the wife of Craig Stephen Hicks, who is accused of murdering three Muslim students, said he championed individuals’ rights on his Facebook page and believed everyone was equal.

    Okay, so the shooter is a rabid atheist who hates conservatives and Christians and is a rabid supporter of abortion and homosexual marriage. I know what you’re thinking: if this clown doesn’t spend all day getting his worldview fed to him by Fox News, then I’m the world’s greatest athlete.

    Oh, you’re not thinking that because that would be idiotic, given that Fox News if anything presents the very opposite of this turd?

    Well, that doesn’t stop the left from framing Fox News for the work of one of their own fascist slimeballs. I actually saw the coverage on MSNBC blaming Fox News, but here’s the work of CNN doing it:

    Shafi Khan, a self-described friend of the Muslim students shot dead Tuesday in North Carolina, specifically blamed Fox News, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Oklahoma state Rep. John Bennett for what he called the “dehumanization of Muslims.”

    “Speaking as an American Muslim, I can tell you that we can’t deny there’s a sentiment in the community that we feel that we were being targeted for our faith,” Mr. Khan, a North Carolina native who co-founded United Muslim Relief, told CNN. “There is certain sections of the media and political apparatus that are constantly dehumanizing Muslims. And I want to take a minute and ask people like Fox News and Bobby Jindal to stop the dehumanization of Muslims. It’s really, really starting to take a toll.”

    Craig Stephen Hicks, 46, was arrested and charged with three counts of first-degree murder after turning himself in to Chapel Hill authorities for the shooting deaths of Deah Shaddy Barakat, 23, his wife, Yusor Mohammad, 21, and her sister, Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha, 19.

    Apart from the fact that the leftist press is trying to blame the ONE network we can safely assume atheist abortion loving sodomy worshiper Craig Hicks DID NOT watch, what else do we have? Of course we’ve got these rabid liberals screaming to take away our guns, but who are the murderous whackjobs that kill with guns? The very liberals who want to take them away. Which is another way of pointing out the fact that “liberal” or “Democrat” is a synonym for “liar” and “hypocrite without shame, honor or decency.”

    We live in an age when our journalists from the very top level down are simply nothing more than documented liars. Truth is virtually impossible in this climate.

    But we have a liar-in-chief as the leader of the free world.

    Obama has repeatedly argued that Islam has nothing to do with the scourge of terrorism that has exploded under his presidency:

    I have made it clear that America will not base our entire foreign policy on reacting to terrorism. Rather, we have waged a focused campaign against al Qaeda and its associated forces – taking out their leaders, and denying them the safe-havens they rely upon. At the same time, we have reaffirmed that the United States is not and never will be at war with Islam. Islam teaches peace. Muslims the world over aspire to live with dignity and a sense of justice. And when it comes to America and Islam, there is no us and them – there is only us, because millions of Muslim Americans are part of the fabric of our country.

    And yet Barack Obama just went on national television and basically said that there is a moral equivalence between what Muslim terrorists are doing RIGHT NOW TODAY and what Christians allegedly did A THOUSAND DAMN YEARS AGO in the Medieval world as a response to Muslims attacking one of their own Christian empires:

    Obama spotlights ‘terrible deeds in the name of Christ’ during Crusades
    By Douglas Ernst – The Washington Times – Thursday, February 5, 2015

    President Obama used the annual National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday to draw those in attendance to the “terrible deeds” committed “in the name of Christ.”

    While speaking at the Washington event, Mr. Obama had harsh words for the Islamic State group, but he also put a spotlight on the Crusades.

    “Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ,” Mr. Obama said.
    SEE ALSO: Obama equates Islamic terrorism with ‘terrible deeds’ committed by Christians
    The president added that members of the Sunni radical terror group are part of “brutal vicious death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism.”

    The president’s speech came just days after Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kassasbeh was burned alive by the Islamic State group. The member of the U.S.-led coalition had been held prisoner since December after his F-16 crashed.

    So we catch Obama in the act of blaming religion in general and then specifically trying to create a false moral equivalence and point his finger at Christians while shielding the religion of Islam that is actually responsible for 99.999% of violent acts of terror today. You know, excluding the ones that atheists are responsible for.

    The problem is that atheism is itself a religious worldview with all the defining characteristics of a religious worldview. The problem is that atheism is responsible for more brutal murders in the last century than every other religious worldview in all of history (even including psycho Islam) has ever been COMBINED. And the problem is that Christianity – to the extent that it actually ne
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    And who annointed you skokeperson for "everyone"?

    What's a "skokeperson"? Maybe you need to go back to bed and sleep it off.


    Oh gosh .... I meant to say spokeswoman.


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    The downside is that when I'm sobering up, usually the next day, I can get grouchy & mean. I'm a happy drunk, but a bitch when hung over

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    Thanks, but I have no idea what I did! Whatever it was I woke up with a rare hangover this morning, and still can't remember what I ate last night (if anything), so it must have involved large quantities of alcohol
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    Feb 17, 2015 2:32 PM GMT
    a non starter considering Biden would be sworn in automatically.
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    Feb 17, 2015 2:35 PM GMT
    musclmed saida non starter considering Biden would be sworn in automatically.


    True. I'm sure not interested in impeachment. If we disagree, that's what elections are for. We'll take care of it in 2016 one way or the other, although I'm well aware of what way it's likely to turn out.
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    Feb 17, 2015 2:57 PM GMT
    musclmed saida non starter considering Biden would be sworn in automatically.

    Obama has accomplished the unthinkable - making Biden look good. At least Biden I think is a patriot, likes the country, and could be reasoned with. He has had good relationships in Congress. Everything Obama lacks.
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    Feb 17, 2015 3:02 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidA radical Right Wing site. From a blogger with no particular credentials, who's authored these interesting articles. Somehow I don't think Democrats are thinking along his lines, nor will be taking any cues from him.

    Typical left-wing tactic - attack the author or source instead of the facts or opinions. The article and this thread are not intended to give you or other Dems any cues. The damage Obama has done to the Democrats is on record. I favor a strong Democratic Party in the future when it is back in moderate hands, but now it deserves the beating it has gotten. I bet a lot of moderate Democrats would like to see him out of office.

    BTW - wish you had provided live links for those other articles. Some look pretty good. At least we can Google the titles, so thanks anyway.
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    musclmed saida non starter considering Biden would be sworn in automatically.

    Obama has accomplished the unthinkable - making Biden look good. At least Biden I think is a patriot, likes the country, and could be reasoned with. He has had good relationships in Congress. Everything Obama lacks.


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    Feb 17, 2015 4:48 PM GMT
    An excellent article, which informatively and succinctly sums up the unmitigated morass that is brought about by electing an unsuitable person for high office. I liken it to making a 'bad hire' in business. The ramifications are just unending until the 'mistake' is rectified. Two more years. So unfortunate for the country - and the world at large. Let's not ever again elect someone just because he is young, good looking, and sometimes articulate (with a teleprompter). Next time, and from here on - let's do a diligent search for a candidate with experience and substance, as well as integrity......not just a windbag of hope and change promises, chasing down his own agenda, despite what the majority of good, thinking people want to accomplish.
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    Jockbod48 saidAn excellent article, which informatively and succinctly sums up the unmitigated morass that is brought about by electing an unsuitable person for high office. I liken it to making a 'bad hire' in business. The ramifications are just unending until the 'mistake' is rectified. Two more years. So unfortunate for the country - and the world at large. Let's not ever again elect someone just because he is young, good looking, and sometimes articulate (with a teleprompter). Next time, and from here on - let's do a diligent search for a candidate with experience and substance, as well as integrity......not just a windbag of hope and change promises, chasing down his own agenda, despite what the majority of good, thinking people want to accomplish.

    Excellent summation. Part of being unsuitable is lacking the wisdom to get good advisors, especially those with the expertise to fill in where the President is deficient, which is in all areas. When such incompetence starts at the top it flows down to the whole organization. Case in point the fool at the State Department. http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4006617