Drone Dogfight

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    Feb 18, 2015 6:01 PM GMT
    Remember kids, don't do this at home...unless you don't mind crashing a $1000 quadcopter. icon_lol.gif

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    Feb 19, 2015 11:50 PM GMT
    I just bought the Phantom2 Vision. Allot easyer to fly then the cheaper ones.
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    Feb 20, 2015 12:56 AM GMT
    Right? The Dromida Ominus is very difficult to fly...outdoors in wind, anyway.

    Today I did a 30 MPH wind test with the Phantom 2. It held great! Even in Manual mode. icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 25, 2015 3:40 AM GMT
    Side note: If you crash too much - even minor crashes - you'll break the gimbal.

    Just trashed mine today. Flew it in a hotel room and it fell off the bed during landing. Gimbal is now toast. That was an expensive mistake. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 25, 2015 3:44 AM GMT
    Next up; drone insurance. "Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.®"
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    Feb 25, 2015 4:36 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidRemember kids, don't do this at home...unless you don't mind crashing a $1000 quadcopter. icon_lol.gif


    I'm not sure what I saw. Did this involve you, Paul?

    And puzzled by your other post that you trashed a drone in a hotel room.
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    Feb 25, 2015 4:44 AM GMT
    What makes the DJI Phantom 2 Vision easier to fly? Does it have a gyroscope, or something, to keep it stabilized? I didn't see anything about a gyro on the Amazon page, although I haven't read the comments from buyers.
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    Feb 25, 2015 4:45 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidNext up; drone insurance. "Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.®"
    Take your pick. And there are more if you search. icon_wink.gif

    http://www.transportrisk.com/uavrcfilm.html
    http://www.aig.com/overview_3171_593677.html
    http://www.aviationi.com/droneuavhome.htm
    http://www.propertycasualty360.com/2014/01/15/insurance-coverage-for-commercial-drones-skys-the
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    Feb 25, 2015 4:48 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidRemember kids, don't do this at home...unless you don't mind crashing a $1000 quadcopter. icon_lol.gif


    I'm not sure what I saw. Did this involve you, Paul?

    And puzzled by your other post that you trashed a drone in a hotel room.
    Yeah I'm flying the Phantom 2 (the stable/loud quadcopter with red/green lights). My neighbor is flying the little crappy hard-to-fly Ominus; and hes wearing the GoPro on a head mount.

    And I didn't trash the drone tonight. I just broke the gimbal that holds the camera steady. That's like half the cost of the quadcopter. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 25, 2015 2:51 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidRight? The Dromida Ominus is very difficult to fly...outdoors in wind, anyway.

    Today I did a 30 MPH wind test with the Phantom 2. It held great! Even in Manual mode. icon_wink.gif


    I'm getting interested in this. My uses would be car events such as the Pure Stock Muscle Car drag racing and I'm also seeing it used in commercial real estate listing for a virtual 'walk around' a large property .... a very good idea. So this application forces me to get interested.

    What the best starter drone for someone who has never done this before? I did RC aircraft, but that was decades ago.
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    Feb 25, 2015 3:19 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    paulflexes saidRight? The Dromida Ominus is very difficult to fly...outdoors in wind, anyway.

    Today I did a 30 MPH wind test with the Phantom 2. It held great! Even in Manual mode. icon_wink.gif


    I'm getting interested in this. My uses would be car events such as the Pure Stock Muscle Car drag racing and I'm also seeing it used in commercial real estate listing for a virtual 'walk around' a large property .... a very good idea. So this application forces me to get interested.

    What the best starter drone for someone who has never done this before? I did RC aircraft, but that was decades ago.
    I'd suggest that Dromida Ominus or something around hat price point. It's more difficult to fly, but if you can fly it gracefully then you'll have less chance of crashing a more expensive/stable one.
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    Feb 25, 2015 3:33 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    freedomisntfree said
    paulflexes saidRight? The Dromida Ominus is very difficult to fly...outdoors in wind, anyway.

    Today I did a 30 MPH wind test with the Phantom 2. It held great! Even in Manual mode. icon_wink.gif


    I'm getting interested in this. My uses would be car events such as the Pure Stock Muscle Car drag racing and I'm also seeing it used in commercial real estate listing for a virtual 'walk around' a large property .... a very good idea. So this application forces me to get interested.

    What the best starter drone for someone who has never done this before? I did RC aircraft, but that was decades ago.
    I'd suggest that Dromida Ominus or something around hat price point. It's more difficult to fly, but if you can fly it gracefully then you'll have less chance of crashing a more expensive/stable one.


    So this is all this stuff costs?

    http://www.amazon.com/Dromida-Ominus-UAV-Quadcopter-Blue/dp/B00NHLAL58/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1424878148&sr=8-5&keywords=Dromida+Ominus


    I thought it was way more than that. So you use a GoPro or equivalent?

    Even though I'm going to supplement my D7100 with a D750 by summer, I don't want to risk destroying the D7100, which crop frame or not, is still a pretty decent camera.


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    Feb 25, 2015 10:59 PM GMT
    I like the northern lights at 1:58.
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    Feb 25, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidWhat makes the DJI Phantom 2 Vision easier to fly? Does it have a gyroscope, or something, to keep it stabilized? I didn't see anything about a gyro on the Amazon page, although I haven't read the comments from buyers.


    "The integrated GPS auto-pilot system offers position holding, altitude lock and stable hovering, giving you constant stable flight", apparently.
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    Feb 26, 2015 12:38 AM GMT
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    paulflexes said
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    paulflexes saidRight? The Dromida Ominus is very difficult to fly...outdoors in wind, anyway.

    Today I did a 30 MPH wind test with the Phantom 2. It held great! Even in Manual mode. icon_wink.gif


    I'm getting interested in this. My uses would be car events such as the Pure Stock Muscle Car drag racing and I'm also seeing it used in commercial real estate listing for a virtual 'walk around' a large property .... a very good idea. So this application forces me to get interested.

    What the best starter drone for someone who has never done this before? I did RC aircraft, but that was decades ago.
    I'd suggest that Dromida Ominus or something around hat price point. It's more difficult to fly, but if you can fly it gracefully then you'll have less chance of crashing a more expensive/stable one.


    So this is all this stuff costs?

    http://www.amazon.com/Dromida-Ominus-UAV-Quadcopter-Blue/dp/B00NHLAL58/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1424878148&sr=8-5&keywords=Dromida+Ominus


    I thought it was way more than that. So you use a GoPro or equivalent?

    Even though I'm going to supplement my D7100 with a D750 by summer, I don't want to risk destroying the D7100, which crop frame or not, is still a pretty decent camera.


    The Ominus won't hold a GoPro, much less a DSLR.

    I've got the D7000 and will eventually get the DJI S1000 octocopter to hold it.
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    Feb 26, 2015 3:17 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    freedomisntfree said
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    paulflexes saidRight? The Dromida Ominus is very difficult to fly...outdoors in wind, anyway.

    Today I did a 30 MPH wind test with the Phantom 2. It held great! Even in Manual mode. icon_wink.gif


    I'm getting interested in this. My uses would be car events such as the Pure Stock Muscle Car drag racing and I'm also seeing it used in commercial real estate listing for a virtual 'walk around' a large property .... a very good idea. So this application forces me to get interested.

    What the best starter drone for someone who has never done this before? I did RC aircraft, but that was decades ago.
    I'd suggest that Dromida Ominus or something around hat price point. It's more difficult to fly, but if you can fly it gracefully then you'll have less chance of crashing a more expensive/stable one.


    So this is all this stuff costs?

    http://www.amazon.com/Dromida-Ominus-UAV-Quadcopter-Blue/dp/B00NHLAL58/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1424878148&sr=8-5&keywords=Dromida+Ominus


    I thought it was way more than that. So you use a GoPro or equivalent?

    Even though I'm going to supplement my D7100 with a D750 by summer, I don't want to risk destroying the D7100, which crop frame or not, is still a pretty decent camera.


    The Ominus won't hold a GoPro, much less a DSLR.

    I've got the D7000 and will eventually get the DJI S1000 octocopter to hold it.


    Ouch, these get into serious money

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/DJI-Spreading-Wings-S1000-Octocopter-A2-Flight-Controller-Zenmuse-Z15-GH4-HD-/131438121692?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e9a5292dc
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    Feb 26, 2015 5:35 AM GMT
    I have never trusted ebay merchants, but I'm probably overly paranoid. Although I do know people who've been ripped off by ebay merchants. Amazon is my preferred merchant.

    http://tinyurl.com/o6kbyny

    http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link_424344382_4?ie=UTF8&node=9699105011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=hero-quick-promo&pf_rd_r=07W16S7RGNGAFD77VSSS&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=1913732642&pf_rd_i=B00JOU6KXS
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    Feb 26, 2015 6:51 AM GMT
    Much closer

    http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link_423464962_3?ie=UTF8&node=9814781011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-5&pf_rd_r=04MNH07PE3PZNHQN13ZQ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1918198422&pf_rd_i=9699105011

    This is doable.

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    Feb 26, 2015 4:40 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidMuch closer

    http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link_423464962_3?ie=UTF8&node=9814781011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-5&pf_rd_r=04MNH07PE3PZNHQN13ZQ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1918198422&pf_rd_i=9699105011

    This is doable.

    Look into the Inspire 1 if you want rectilinear footage in 4K. I've been watching demo's of it on YouTube and feel like it'll probably be my next "flying tripod."

    It's around $3000, but that price is offset by the integrated Lightbridge FPV system that would cost $1500 by itself.
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    Feb 26, 2015 6:40 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidMuch closer

    http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link_423464962_3?ie=UTF8&node=9814781011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-5&pf_rd_r=04MNH07PE3PZNHQN13ZQ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1918198422&pf_rd_i=9699105011

    This is doable.

    Look into the Inspire 1 if you want rectilinear footage in 4K. I've been watching demo's of it on YouTube and feel like it'll probably be my next "flying tripod."

    It's around $3000, but that price is offset by the integrated Lightbridge FPV system that would cost $1500 by itself.


    Is this it?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/DJI-Inspire-1-UAV-Quadcopter-Drone-with-4K-Camera-3-Axis-Gimbal-PREORDER-/261793219786?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf41784ca

    Since there's no point in having both a crop frame and a full frame, I think I will ebay my D7100 when I get the D750 and use those proceeds toward the drone.

    I don't 'need' the drone until car show season starts, which at the rate we're going with this weather, might be later than usual. It'll be a tax write off anyway because I'll use it on commercial listings.
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    Feb 26, 2015 7:52 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidSince there's no point in having both a crop frame and a full frame, I think I will ebay my D7100 when I get the D750 and use those proceeds toward the drone.

    Why use an SLR with the drone? It's going to be a lot heavier. If you can find a decent compact maybe it would do what you need, and you might save on battery life on the drone since it wouldn't be working so hard to haul around that extra weight.

    I agree that for me using an SLR feels right but some times a compact is good enough and the weight and size can be helpful. Think outside your comfort zone.

    http://www.dpreview.com/articles/6657172030/high-end-pocketable-compacts-2014-roundup
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    Feb 26, 2015 7:54 PM GMT
    Also, if the drone goes rogue or crashes you'd be out less money having used a compact camera.
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    Feb 26, 2015 8:32 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidSince there's no point in having both a crop frame and a full frame, I think I will ebay my D7100 when I get the D750 and use those proceeds toward the drone.

    Why use an SLR with the drone? It's going to be a lot heavier. If you can find a decent compact maybe it would do what you need, and you might save on battery life on the drone since it wouldn't be working so hard to haul around that extra weight.

    I agree that for me using an SLR feels right but some times a compact is good enough and the weight and size can be helpful. Think outside your comfort zone.

    http://www.dpreview.com/articles/6657172030/high-end-pocketable-compacts-2014-roundup


    Not about to do that. The D750 is too expensive to risk an accident. That would be way outside my comfort zone. Besides, it's too heavy.

    The ebay item I linked above came with a 4k camera

    "Integrated 4K Camera

    4K and HD Video Capture

    The Inspire 1 Camera shoots 4K video at 24p and 30p, and can shoot HD video frame rates from 24p to 60p. It features a 1/2.3" CMOS sensor with a 94-degree field of view (FOV) lens. This field of view works out to about 20mm in 35mm equivalent, which gives you a wide but not extremely wide or fisheye framing - while not as immersive as a fisheye, this FOV features less distortion and gives the subject more emphasis"
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    Mar 09, 2015 3:35 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    freedomisntfree saidSince there's no point in having both a crop frame and a full frame, I think I will ebay my D7100 when I get the D750 and use those proceeds toward the drone.

    Why use an SLR with the drone?
    For professional quality work. This is the drone I'll be getting once I have enough clientele to justify it.

    1395840688_1.jpg
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    Mar 09, 2015 3:36 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidAlso, if the drone goes rogue or crashes you'd be out less money having used a compact camera.
    Yeah but the footage would be awesome. icon_lol.gif