Drone In My Window

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    Feb 19, 2015 2:00 AM GMT
    I'll try again, since a couple of RJ's bad guys derailed my other thread...

    I was driving my car today, and had to avoid a drone at street level. Then it almost flew into my open car window.

    If it had, could I have legally pounded it to slivers? And likewise if one flew into my house window, or landed on my porch?

    Any legal experts on this issue?
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:06 AM GMT
    Good job Southbeach. Happy to hear that you finally got those things flying!

    The ultimate "right wing plant"
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:07 AM GMT
    Leave it up to Southbeach to come up with a plane that only has a Right Wing.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:08 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI'll try again, since a couple of RJ's bad guys derailed my other thread...

    I was driving my car today, and had to avoid a drone at street level. Then it almost flew into my open car window.

    If it had, could I have legally pounded it to slivers? And likewise if one flew into my house window, or landed on my porch?

    Any legal experts on this issue?

    Actually, that's a very interesting legal question.
    If a kid throws a baseball which breaks a window in your house and lands inside, does the baseball become your property? Are you obliged to let the kid have it back?
    I have no idea of the answer.

    Art: With your permission, I'm going to repost this on Facebook to see what others think. Genuinely curious.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:09 AM GMT
    Sharkspeare said
    Art_Deco saidI'll try again, since a couple of RJ's bad guys derailed my other thread...

    I was driving my car today, and had to avoid a drone at street level. Then it almost flew into my open car window.

    If it had, could I have legally pounded it to slivers? And likewise if one flew into my house window, or landed on my porch?

    Any legal experts on this issue?

    Actually, that's a very interesting legal question.
    If a kid throws a baseball which breaks a window in your house and lands inside, does the baseball become your property? Are you obliged to let the kid have it back?
    I have no idea of the answer.


    Let the kid have it back
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:10 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidLet the kid have it back

    That's the morally right thing to do, of course.
    I am speculating about the legal rights.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:12 AM GMT
    Sharkspeare said
    Art: With your permission, I'm going to repost this on Facebook to see what others think. Genuinely curious.

    Thanks!

    Since disruptive troublemakers freedomisntfree and southbeach1500 don't want this topic properly discussed here. Just using the other thread I started on this topic as a vehicle for personal attacks against me.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:14 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidLet the kid have it back

    That's the morally right thing to do, of course.
    I am speculating about the legal rights.


    I think you'd have to give it back .... seriously. Someone is texting and rear ends your car. You can't keep their car. Now after a lil civil litigation, that might change in the form of an award for damages.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:15 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Sharkspeare said
    Art: With your permission, I'm going to repost this on Facebook to see what others think. Genuinely curious.

    Thanks!

    Since disruptive troublemakers freedomisntfree and southbeach1500 don't want this topic properly discussed here. Just using the other thread I started on this topic as a vehicle for personal attacks against me.


    Don't like the insults and name calling bobbi, then don't do it.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:17 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI'll try again, since a couple of RJ's bad guys derailed my other thread...

    I was driving my car today, and had to avoid a drone at street level. Then it almost flew into my open car window.

    If it had, could I have legally pounded it to slivers? And likewise if one flew into my house window, or landed on my porch?

    Any legal experts on this issue?

    You have every right to keep what lands on your property.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:17 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidLet the kid have it back

    That's the morally right thing to do, of course.
    I am speculating about the legal rights.

    A ball is not the same thing as a drone, with its 4 or more spinning rotors. When a ball lands inside any damage is done, but a drone keep running, a potential hazard.

    I would pound it to smithereens, until it stopped running.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:18 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidI'll try again, since a couple of RJ's bad guys derailed my other thread...

    I was driving my car today, and had to avoid a drone at street level. Then it almost flew into my open car window.

    If it had, could I have legally pounded it to slivers? And likewise if one flew into my house window, or landed on my porch?

    Any legal experts on this issue?

    You have every right to keep what lands on your property.


    Not true under the legal theory of 'unjust enrichment'
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:21 AM GMT
    Now true, you'd have to be compensated for any damages the unwelcome 'visitor' did to your property, but you have to return it.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:22 AM GMT
    The difference between my examples and yours, FIF, is that in my examples the object (ball, drone) wind up inside an enclosed space owned by you.
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:24 AM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidThe difference between my examples and yours, FIF, is that in my examples the object (ball, drone) wind up inside an enclosed space owned by you.


    You have to make an attempt to return it. And you would have every right to make a claim for any damages it did to your property (broken window, etc.)
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:26 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidI'll try again, since a couple of RJ's bad guys derailed my other thread...

    I was driving my car today, and had to avoid a drone at street level. Then it almost flew into my open car window.

    If it had, could I have legally pounded it to slivers? And likewise if one flew into my house window, or landed on my porch?

    Any legal experts on this issue?

    You have every right to keep what lands on your property.

    Keep, and destroy?
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:27 AM GMT
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    xrichx said
    Art_Deco saidI'll try again, since a couple of RJ's bad guys derailed my other thread...

    I was driving my car today, and had to avoid a drone at street level. Then it almost flew into my open car window.

    If it had, could I have legally pounded it to slivers? And likewise if one flew into my house window, or landed on my porch?

    Any legal experts on this issue?

    You have every right to keep what lands on your property.

    Keep, and destroy?


    Actually, no
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    Feb 19, 2015 2:40 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Art_Deco said
    xrichx said
    Art_Deco saidI'll try again, since a couple of RJ's bad guys derailed my other thread...

    I was driving my car today, and had to avoid a drone at street level. Then it almost flew into my open car window.

    If it had, could I have legally pounded it to slivers? And likewise if one flew into my house window, or landed on my porch?

    Any legal experts on this issue?

    You have every right to keep what lands on your property.

    Keep, and destroy?

    Actually, no

    Then what? Obliged to return the drone intact?

    May we please hear from someone on this site who actually knows US law? And dispense with unqualified opinions from the likes of FIF?

    I think this drone issue is gonna become big in the months ahead for ordinary people. I'm beginning to see them flying everywhere. What is the legal standing of ordinary people when these things land on them, or their property? What can people legally do and not do?

    How do we know if they're privately owned or governmental? Does it make a difference? Do I commit a crime if I smack down a drone operated by the government, its origin unknown to me?
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    Feb 19, 2015 3:00 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    freedomisntfree said
    Art_Deco said
    xrichx said
    Art_Deco saidI'll try again, since a couple of RJ's bad guys derailed my other thread...

    I was driving my car today, and had to avoid a drone at street level. Then it almost flew into my open car window.

    If it had, could I have legally pounded it to slivers? And likewise if one flew into my house window, or landed on my porch?

    Any legal experts on this issue?

    You have every right to keep what lands on your property.

    Keep, and destroy?

    Actually, no

    Then what? Obliged to return the drone intact?

    May we please hear from someone on this site who actually knows US law? And dispense with unqualified opinions from the likes of FIF?

    I think this drone issue is gonna become big in the months ahead for ordinary people. I'm beginning to see them flying everywhere. What is the legal standing of ordinary people when these things land on them, or their property? What can people legally do and not do?

    How do we know if they're privately owned or governmental? Does it make a difference? Do I commit a crime if I smack down a drone operated by the government, its origin unknown to me?


    "May we please hear from someone on this site who actually knows US law?"

    Not federal law. State law, under most circumstances and is in yours. Could be FAA jurisdiction in some instances

    "And dispense with unqualified opinions from the likes of FIF?"

    So more insults Bobbi?

    You know there's help for you close by?

    http://www.aabroward.org/

    Other folks here have quit and so can you.
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    Feb 19, 2015 3:19 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Not federal law. State law, under most circumstances and is in yours. Could be FAA jurisdiction in some instances

    And what is the focus of your law degree? Federal Aviation law? Please do tell us.

    In the meantime, while FIF is fumbling around trying to invent some new unqualified BS answer, does anyone with legal experience actually know about these drone issues?

    I'd like to know:

    - when a drone comes onto my property, may I knock it down, keep it, or destroy it?
    - when a drone contacts my person outside my home, may I strike it down?
    - am I obligated to know the difference between a privately-owned drone and a government drone? And are there different laws between government drones & private drones?
    - if there are different laws for government drones, how do I identify these drones?
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    Feb 19, 2015 3:26 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    Not federal law. State law, under most circumstances and is in yours. Could be FAA jurisdiction in some instances

    And what is the focus of your law degree? Federal Aviation law? Please do tell us.

    In the meantime, while FIF is fumbling around trying to invent some new unqualified BS answer, does anyone with legal experience actually know about these drone issues?

    I'd like to know:

    - when a drone comes onto my property, may I knock it down, keep it, or destroy it?
    - when a drone contacts my person outside my home, may I strike it down?
    - am I obligated to know the difference between a privately-owned drone and a government drone? And are there different laws between government drones & private drones?
    - if there are different laws for government drones, how do I identify these drones?


    So more insults you drunk? Don't like them? Then don't do it.

    No aviation law. Lots of this remains to be determined by statute and case law. In the meantime see similar case law involving RC airplanes to find something close. MG might have a much better answer.
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    Feb 19, 2015 3:48 AM GMT
    I knew your stalker 43rudeasshole would chime in on this Art. Just ignore that fucking prick. icon_evil.gif
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    Feb 19, 2015 3:56 AM GMT
    Well, the other difference is that a stray baseball isn't streaming video back to the kids phone. Well, as far as I know. Excuse me, gotta rush off to the patent office...
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    Feb 19, 2015 4:05 AM GMT
    Gawd, George Orwell was right...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 19, 2015 4:12 AM GMT
    bon_pan saidGawd, George Orwell was right...icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah, I can't wait for the local cops to start using drones for more traffic control as if four different competing departments patrolling the same turf aren't enough.