How Do They Get This Information On You?

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    Feb 20, 2015 7:50 AM GMT
    I just received a membership in Disabled American Veterans (DAV). I never applied, have had no prior contact with them. I received:

    - a large diploma-like document, with elaborate raised printing border and lettering, suitable for framing
    - a wallet membership card
    - a plastic window sticker
    - 2 sheets of stick-on address labels, with my full name spelled out, even my full middle
    - several sheets describing all the benefits I now have

    How do these people get this information? How do they know I am indeed a disabled veteran? Does the US government provide it to them? I can't imagine where else that info would be available. Only the VA and Social Security would have it. And why now? I've been rated disabled for almost 20 years.
  • bobbobbob

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    Feb 20, 2015 10:40 AM GMT
    I'll be curious to know what you find out.
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    Feb 20, 2015 12:11 PM GMT
    its called "data mining"....where a number of mailing lists bought from a variety of sources are combined with statistical data from things like census and voter registration and county auditor and other data and a profile is built....it may not be a perfect fit but it also has a high probability of nailing it too.....its a reason that webpages gather data with cookies and all of your subscriptions and financial activities are data mined for marketing.... fuck big brother...its the marketing companies that build your profile and sell it to anyone including the government or some specialized group.They look at your patterns to see if they match a known pattern...yours must fit the patterns of a disabled military vet...congrats!
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    Feb 20, 2015 1:07 PM GMT
    Sporty_G saidits called "data mining"....where a number of mailing lists bought from a variety of sources are combined with statistical data from things like census and voter registration and county auditor and other data and a profile is built....it may not be a perfect fit but it also has a high probability of nailing it too.....its a reason that webpages gather data with cookies and all of your subscriptions and financial activities are data mined for marketing.... fuck big brother...its the marketing companies that build your profile and sell it to anyone including the government or some specialized group.They look at your patterns to see if they match a known pattern...yours must fit the patterns of a disabled military vet...congrats!


    this. there's a lot about you that's public record. a LOT.

    on average, i get about once every two weeks a phone call asking if i want to lower my VA mortgage rate because of some "new" gov't program....i finally started telling them I actually don't own any property because i was sick of the calls.

    oh and that "do not call" list/program doesn't work.

  • NeuralShock

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    Feb 20, 2015 2:10 PM GMT
    Has data mining actually become THAT powerful:lolicon_confused.gif

    That shocks me that data mining as a technique has become so powerful. But the use of it doesn't surprise me
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    Feb 20, 2015 2:49 PM GMT
    Clearly someone is not reading the user agreements; scrolling down and clicking "I Accept".
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    Feb 20, 2015 3:35 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said... How do these people get this information? How do they know...
    when was the last time you changed your user id or password for anything? You probably have the same phone# for the last 22years. No one uses phone numbers like we have rotary dial phones. You have had the same credit card# for years too. Let me guess your email is MyName@google.com and you have used this since before gmail came out. You have had the same checking account number for 11years?

    your computer probably has never had a full clean operating system install since you bought it. You have the working remains of the last 49 google and yahoo tool bars you installed on your computer. few app's completely un install.

    tell me you would do a google(my antidipresents) search on your browser while you are logged into this site? There a few free vpn services and BolehVPN is a strong paid one.

    USPS now allows you to use "suite 1234" instead of "poBox 1234" Get a PO Box

    sorry about the beat down but really. We all life a common life and likely never do anything illegal. This is not Cuba tho and nothing is free.
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    Feb 20, 2015 4:03 PM GMT
    willular said
    Sporty_G saidits called "data mining"....where a number of mailing lists bought from a variety of sources are combined with statistical data from things like census and voter registration and county auditor and other data and a profile is built....it may not be a perfect fit but it also has a high probability of nailing it too.....its a reason that webpages gather data with cookies and all of your subscriptions and financial activities are data mined for marketing.... fuck big brother...its the marketing companies that build your profile and sell it to anyone including the government or some specialized group.They look at your patterns to see if they match a known pattern...yours must fit the patterns of a disabled military vet...congrats!


    this. there's a lot about you that's public record. a LOT.

    on average, i get about once every two weeks a phone call asking if i want to lower my VA mortgage rate because of some "new" gov't program....i finally started telling them I actually don't own any property because i was sick of the calls.

    oh and that "do not call" list/program doesn't work.



    Many or even most of the spam/scam calls originate outside the United States, out of the reach of the DNC list. My parents got 10-15 of these calls per day until after their deaths I finally shut the number off that they had for 50 years.

    I no longer use a landline because so many clients text and it really confuses things with a landline. Also there's an Android app called 'Mr. Number' that does a very good job of hanging up on whatever criteria you select such as all 800 type numbers and numbers marked spam by other users. It works very well unless I'm the first person contacted with a spoofed caller ID.

    I get massive number of attempts given the amount of marketing I do. Very few of them get through.
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    Feb 20, 2015 7:48 PM GMT
    willular said
    Sporty_G said

    oh and that "do not call" list/program doesn't work.

    The do not call list doesn't work, because the sleazebags who comprise our congress never wanted any such list to work. If there is a violation of the do not call list, your only legal remedy [sic] is to complain to a government agency that will do nothing in 99.999% of the cases. If the crooks in Congress really wanted such rules to work, they would have enacted a provision that allowed anyone to sue (as in small claims court) anyone who violated the rule. But that would mean that the rule really would be effective, something our sleazy politicians really do not want. We really do have the best Congress that money can buy, and they are always quite mindful of the desires of those who have bought them.
  • tj85016

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    Feb 21, 2015 1:43 AM GMT
    from the Chinese
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    Feb 21, 2015 2:07 AM GMT
    Lots of public information available on the internet. Plus, there are services that mine data and you can pay for background reports on people.
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    Feb 21, 2015 2:18 AM GMT
    After buying a Digitone call blocker to block telemarketers I realized I was spending more time googling incoming numbers, ID'ing them and blocking them than it was worth.

    I finally got smart.

    Got a multi-set Panasonic landline set with three key features for me:

    - audio caller ID
    - high volume call blocking
    - ability to turn ringer off

    The most valuable feature turned out to be the ability to turn the ringer off since I'd get over 30 hang up calls a day. When I'd pick up the receiver it would just alert autobots that it was a working number and the calls would increase exponentially. Now I never pick up the phone. The hang up calls have trickled down to maybe 4 a day. Anyone important has my cell so they'll either then call that, or leave a message on my landline.

    I don't even ID calls anymore. If it's important, or a bill collector, they'll leave a message.

    No liens against me. No collection agency notices in the mail. Maintained a great credit score. No phone disruptions days off at home because now, unless I'm EXPECTING an important call, the ringer stays off.

    I even get less junk mail.

    And my penis got bigger!
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    Feb 21, 2015 3:28 AM GMT
    eagermuscle said
    I finally got smart.

    Got a multi-set Panasonic landline set with three key features for me:

    And my penis got bigger!

    Length or girth?