Beyoncé is an Underrated Vocalist

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    Feb 21, 2015 4:01 PM GMT
    Once upon a time I thought the best vocalist in mainstream media was Christina Aguilera, but with all her natural talent she lacks technique...

    This is where Beyoncé embodies good ole American values: work ethic. For anything Beyoncé lacks naturally -- she makes up for it through practice, practice, practice and more practice...

    One of Beyoncé's greatest influences was Michael Jackson -- he was the embodiment of putting on a show. One of Beyoncé's double edged swords is her ability to put together a grand show -- it's captivating, but also takes away from the simple fact: All this lady superior performer/living icon needs is "A Mic & Light" (in her own words). For anyone who is debating on getting a Beyoncé concert; her Las Vegas concert is the one I'd show my grandparents, if they were still alive. It's her classiest and most audience friendly performance -- the first half of the show is all about her singing.

    Her greatest vocal strengths are her use of staccato (Barbra Walters mistook Run The World for "rap music" icon_rolleyes.gif); her natural vibrato; her versatility (not many singers can enter so many genres with such conviction); and her control/technique as an artist.

    The fact that she looks beautiful and is put together in every public appearance amazes me; if I had her schedule with time zone changes (when touring) I'd probably look like a mess -- at least on a few occasions.

    The fact she didn't become overly sexual in her lyrics, until she was married and wanted to express that side of herself as an artist is respectable. Her lyrics still haven't been as degrading as BuckCherry's Crazy Bitch and Nickel Back's Something In Your Mouth (Note: I've seen BuckCherry in concert and am a fan; I'm just making a point to ppl who are going to troll every Beyoncé lyric to try and make her seem like she is something she isn't -- we all have different facets in our lives).

    To the idiots that say Jay-Z made her... YOU ARE BEYOND STUPID -- she was signed to Columbia records with Destiny's Child... If anyone's role played a major part in helping her career; it was the sacrifices her parents made to make sure she had the best circumstances to make her a celebrity.

    The fact she isn't in the tabloids for doing drugs, getting in car wrecks, or other nefarious activities so many celebrities fall prey to is respectable. Beyoncé is like the perfect A student who happens to be a hot cheerleader -- people just "love" to hate her.

    Beyoncé, similar to many other popular artists, possess enough money that they can sit back and relax, BUT she has something called WORK ETHIC & DRIVE. She continually wants to touch her fans lives by being the fullest expression of herself. #BeyHive

    Name another artist that can sing all of these songs?





















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    Feb 21, 2015 4:05 PM GMT
    Another one whose voice surprised me is Lady Gaga. When she recorded some standards with Tony Bennett, minus all the concert excesses for which she's known, just her and her voice performing, she's really not half bad. But then I wouldn't expect the legendary Bennett to harm his own reputation by collaborating with a screech monkey.
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    Feb 21, 2015 7:31 PM GMT
    Beyoncé is an OVERRATED vocalist if anything. She has 20 Grammy awards, many of them for vocal performance. Her voice is praised by many people in the industry, second only to her sheer performing ability.

    Lady Gaga is an example of an underrated vocalist, I agree. Listen to her a capella or just accompanied by piano, her voice is something fearsome. But people have until recently only focused on her imagery and aesthetics.

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    Feb 21, 2015 8:02 PM GMT
    Mulignan saidBeyoncé is an OVERRATED vocalist if anything. She has 20 Grammy awards, many of them for vocal performance. Her voice is praised by many people in the industry, second only to her sheer performing ability.

    Lady Gaga is an example of an underrated vocalist, I agree. Listen to her a capella or just accompanied by piano, her voice is something fearsome. But people have until recently only focused on her imagery and aesthetics.



    You're cute -- if you learn to like Beyoncé maybe I'd buy your deaf ass dinner (only if you're a bottom babe).
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    Feb 21, 2015 8:12 PM GMT
    AnOriginal said
    Mulignan saidBeyoncé is an OVERRATED vocalist if anything. She has 20 Grammy awards, many of them for vocal performance. Her voice is praised by many people in the industry, second only to her sheer performing ability.

    Lady Gaga is an example of an underrated vocalist, I agree. Listen to her a capella or just accompanied by piano, her voice is something fearsome. But people have until recently only focused on her imagery and aesthetics.



    You're cute -- if you learn to like Beyoncé maybe I'd buy your deaf ass dinner (only if you're a bottom babe).


    I do like Beyoncé - where did I say I didn't? I only said she was overrated.

    I know Beyoncé's music and it is not deserving of 20 Grammys - that is my major argument.

    She is a good entertainer, good singer, but far too over praised.
  • bobbobbob

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    Feb 21, 2015 9:51 PM GMT
    ^1+ @ Mulignan.

    Like Mulignan I never said I don't like her singing. She's an excellent vocalist and an impressive range over three octaves which knocks Madonna's dick in the dirt. But then that's should be expected of anyone who's been performing since childhood.

    My perspective and AnOriginal's are very different. I've been listening to female vocalists for half a century and have seen and heard many like Beyonce and it's always sad to watch them fade into obscurity once the general public is bored with them. In all truth her voice and style is ubquitous and can be pigeonholed as almost indistinguishable from at least fifty other female vocalists before her.

    On the other side of this there are female vocalists who have never sung or recorded a song without owning it. Their music is timeless and universal, loved all over the world even in nations where people don't understand the lyrics. Their voices are unique and unforgettable.

    Beyonce is not amongst them. When you have seen and experienced more music you will understand this.

    Dame Shirley Bassey rose to instant worldwide fame in the 1960s. For decades later at age 63 threw the music world on its head with one of her most dynamic performances, loved from gay bars worldwide to every pop music radio statio to audiences as old as my own mother at that time, then in her mid 70s. In 1999 on vacation with my 2nd lover to rural Argentina to visit his family this sing was being played and danced to in a tin shack bar. Patrons there begged him to translate it into Spanish for them.

    Here's Dame Shirley. In concerts she never had dancers, back up singers, smoke machines, elaborate stages. She didn't rely on them to astound audiences.

    History Repeating (199icon_cool.gif with the Propeller Heads
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QngStkp-E

    This Is My Life (originally recorded 1969)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqxMXlqCFZw&list=RDjmOCDc3xLCs

    Here she is covering Pink's Get the Party Started and owning it at age SEVENTY ONE (2007)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqNcyFNMfLM

    Dame Shirley is still performing for big bucks for royalty and jet setters in Monaco at age 78 when she wants to. Good luck imagining Beyonce being a force in worldwide music lasting a sixty years.

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    Feb 21, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
    And while we're on the subject, here's the greatest male voice ever to sing blues. In Paris he's still revered almost like a god, 15 years after his death. I saw him perform there in 1973 and 1979.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS5EKEo6PRQ

    Here's one of the funniest songs ever done and seldom attempted as a cover.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic3g8Xnf7LI
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    Feb 21, 2015 10:40 PM GMT
    bobbobbob saidAnd while we're on the subject, here's the greatest male voice ever to sing blues. In Paris he's still revered almost like a god, 15 years after his death. I saw him perform there in 1973 and 1979.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS5EKEo6PRQ

    Here's one of the funniest songs ever done and seldom attempted as a cover.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic3g8Xnf7LI


    If her voice is so generic; why do people instantly recognize her voice on the radio or while she speaks?

    Maybe it's the fact she been on her A Game for so long that people have been accustomed to her voice...

  • bobbobbob

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    Feb 22, 2015 1:58 AM GMT
    ^ I feel the same way pazzy.

    I'm old school and have a fetish for a capella performances.

    Here's one that I heard in 1968 and just found on youtube. This guy was an opening act for the 5th Dimension in Atlanta. He walked out on a dark stage, sat on a stool at the microphone and created magic with his voice and emotions. The entire Fox Theater theater was totally silent and awestruck.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87FjkqtK67o

    Then thanks to youtube and modern technology true artists and genius like this guy can take a popular song and reinvent it in a capella singing all the harmonies himself. He's playing leads in Broadway musicals today. Three and half octaves and perfect pitch plus vocal control and unbelievable volume. Go to 2:00 and listen to the 3rd harmony voice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny6oUhMfYdI
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    Feb 22, 2015 3:30 AM GMT
    bobbobbob said^1+ @ Mulignan.

    Like Mulignan I never said I don't like her singing. She's an excellent vocalist and an impressive range over three octaves which knocks Madonna's dick in the dirt. But then that's should be expected of anyone who's been performing since childhood.

    My perspective and AnOriginal's are very different. I've been listening to female vocalists for half a century and have seen and heard many like Beyonce and it's always sad to watch them fade into obscurity once the general public is bored with them. In all truth her voice and style is ubquitous and can be pigeonholed as almost indistinguishable from at least fifty other female vocalists before her.

    On the other side of this there are female vocalists who have never sung or recorded a song without owning it. Their music is timeless and universal, loved all over the world even in nations where people don't understand the lyrics. Their voices are unique and unforgettable.

    Beyonce is not amongst them. When you have seen and experienced more music you will understand this.

    Dame Shirley Bassey rose to instant worldwide fame in the 1960s. For decades later at age 63 threw the music world on its head with one of her most dynamic performances, loved from gay bars worldwide to every pop music radio statio to audiences as old as my own mother at that time, then in her mid 70s. In 1999 on vacation with my 2nd lover to rural Argentina to visit his family this sing was being played and danced to in a tin shack bar. Patrons there begged him to translate it into Spanish for them.

    Here's Dame Shirley. In concerts she never had dancers, back up singers, smoke machines, elaborate stages. She didn't rely on them to astound audiences.

    History Repeating (199icon_cool.gif with the Propeller Heads
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QngStkp-E

    This Is My Life (originally recorded 1969)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqxMXlqCFZw&list=RDjmOCDc3xLCs

    Here she is covering Pink's Get the Party Started and owning it at age SEVENTY ONE (2007)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqNcyFNMfLM

    Dame Shirley is still performing for big bucks for royalty and jet setters in Monaco at age 78 when she wants to. Good luck imagining Beyonce being a force in worldwide music lasting a sixty years.



    Bravo!
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    Feb 23, 2015 4:02 AM GMT
    pazzy saidand another one...



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    an original, please explain this. is she singing or yelling?


    You're ignoring the 10 videos I posted, and I know your stance on her... We've been through this before Pazzy.