Male Pattern Baldness- Gay or Straight Men

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    Feb 22, 2015 8:32 AM GMT

    Is hair replacement therapy or hair loss a straight or gay mens issue? All the treatments and advertising seem to be geared towards straight men because women seem to find balding men unattractive, gay men don't seem to care if we have shaved or bald heads

    Interesting video about DHT, androgen and MPB

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    Feb 22, 2015 8:36 AM GMT
    It's a tragedy, since it is well-known that nobody loves a baldo, not even his mother. I could tell you countless sad tales of men who had perfectly good relationships with their mothers, but the day their hair fell out---poof! She stopped returning his calls. Just like that.
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    Feb 22, 2015 8:46 AM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidIt's a tragedy, since it is well-known that nobody loves a baldo, not even his mother. I could tell you countless sad tales of men who had perfectly good relationships with their mothers, but the day their hair fell out---poof! She stopped returning his calls. Just like that.



    Are you being sarcastic? Gay men don't seem to care, one way or the other, if the guy has a symmetrical, pleasant face, why would a bald head matter? Losing ones hair seems to be as much of an issue for straight guys as their penis size, both a bald head and a small penis must be a horrible self esteem issue for the straight guy, especially if they are under 30 years old icon_confused.gif
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    Feb 22, 2015 9:48 AM GMT
    LOL. Yes, Sharkie is yanking your chain.

    Someone told me that even if you opt for the hair transplants, you need to use rogaine and/or other medication forever. Otherwise, the transplants will thin out and you'll be bald again. Seems cheaper to just work on self-confidence and embrace your baldness.

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    Feb 22, 2015 1:08 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidIt's a tragedy, since it is well-known that nobody loves a baldo, not even his mother. I could tell you countless sad tales of men who had perfectly good relationships with their mothers, but the day their hair fell out---poof! She stopped returning his calls. Just like that.

    Sharkey, don't leave out the self-evident fact that baldness is a sign of demonic possession, as you have so often helpfully pointed out.
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    Feb 22, 2015 2:05 PM GMT
    Because gay men instinctively know a bald head is an indicator of hyper masculinity and virility.
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    Feb 22, 2015 4:16 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidBecause gay men instinctively know a bald head is an indicator of hyper masculinity and virility.

    Since when?

    Seriously, I think most men of all orientations would rather keep their hair. But if it does fall out they make the best of it. What else can you do? Most of the hair replacement or retention approaches are more trouble than they're worth, with often unsatisfactory results.

    BTW, my own loss is number IV in the OP. Not bald there yet, but thinning on the crown. Though at 66 I suppose I'm not doing badly. And my late father kept his hair until his death at 85, so I doubt I'll ever see extensive baldness.
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    Feb 22, 2015 8:38 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidIt's a tragedy, since it is well-known that nobody loves a baldo, not even his mother. I could tell you countless sad tales of men who had perfectly good relationships with their mothers, but the day their hair fell out---poof! She stopped returning his calls. Just like that.


    This made my day, so hilarious lol
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    Feb 22, 2015 9:00 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidBecause gay men instinctively know a bald head is an indicator of hyper masculinity and virility.


    So if gay men can pick this up, and get boners while watching the movie 300, then why does hyper masculinity seem to turn women off, who prefer a romance novel?

    Straight women prefer= Fabio Lanzoni
    Gay men prefer= Gerard Butler


    From watching the info in the video, it does appear some form of hyperandrogenism has something to do with it, (the more estrogen or fem the guy, more likely he will keep his hair) we just don't know how much of it is from hereditary, race, environment or self induced like steroids. Joey Lawrence, Bruce Willis, Billy Joel and Vin Diesel are very masculine but are not naturally hairy guys (body hair) but yet they all lost their head hair at relatively young ages.
    On the other hand, middle eastern, Latin or Italian men exhibit hyperandrogenism and of course hirsute but rarely lose their head hair



    Insiders agree: “Joey Lawrence is getting more hair transplants
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    young Vin Diesel with hair

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    Feb 22, 2015 9:12 PM GMT

    Hyper masculine David Lee Roth, (Van Halen), bald now on stage icon_eek.gif


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    Feb 22, 2015 9:28 PM GMT
    xrichx saidLOL. Yes, Sharkie is yanking your chain.

    Someone told me that even if you opt for the hair transplants, you need to use rogaine and/or other medication forever. Otherwise, the transplants will thin out and you'll be bald again. Seems cheaper to just work on self-confidence and embrace your baldness.




    ^It seems that is what happened to David Lee Roth icon_neutral.gif

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    Feb 22, 2015 9:29 PM GMT
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    xrichx saidLOL. Yes, Sharkie is yanking your chain.

    Yes, he was being sharkastic.

    Skarkasm at its best. icon_idea.gificon_idea.gif

    LMAO! I love the coining of a new word. Well done!

    And I'm sure Sharkie would enjoy it, too. A really nice guy, and a local friend of ours. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 22, 2015 9:49 PM GMT
    Baldness is often mistaken for a sign of hyper masculinity. It's not.
    Men with male pattern baldness just have hair follicles that are more sensitive to dht. Testosterone is broken down into dht. Which acts on susceptible hair follicles to keep them in the senescence stage. All hair follicles go through a cycle of growth, falling out then senescence. Balding men they get stuck in senescence. No one really knows why. But we don't have anymore testosterone or dht in our bodies than anyone else.
    DHT doesn't even affect all hair the same. It affects hair on the side and back hardly at all. And causes the growth of MORE body hair.
    I minded going bald at 25. But now I don't.
    But I do always go for a man with a full head of hair. Want what I don't have!
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    Feb 22, 2015 10:17 PM GMT
    ELNathB said
    Is hair replacement therapy or hair loss a straight or gay mens issue? All the treatments and advertising seem to be geared towards straight men because women seem to find balding men unattractive, gay men don't seem to care if we have shaved or bald heads


    I found this interesting since I have noticed where a lot more woman pay attention to me since I started losing my hair. Guys on the other hand don't seem to like it, generally.
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    Feb 22, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidBaldness is often mistaken for a sign of hyper masculinity. It's not.
    Men with male pattern baldness just have hair follicles that are more sensitive to dht. Testosterone is broken down into dht. Which acts on susceptible hair follicles to keep them in the senescence stage. All hair follicles go through a cycle of growth, falling out then senescence. Balding men they get stuck in senescence. No one really knows why. But we don't have anymore testosterone or dht in our bodies than anyone else.
    DHT doesn't even affect all hair the same. It affects hair on the side and back hardly at all. And causes the growth of MORE body hair.
    I minded going bald at 25. But now I don't.
    But I do always go for a man with a full head of hair. Want what I don't have!



    I think its more and more common than ever now. In the 70's and 80's there were not many bald guys anywhere, at least in the entertainment business. Bald men were a 'novelty', not the norm. Big and long hair was the norm and the technology for hair regrowth, transplants and medication just wasn't there, so something else has happened in the last few decades to make more and more mens hair fall out. If sensitivity to DHT is a contributing factor, maybe then something in our shampoos, soaps or added food hormones is causing this sensitivity.

    Andre Agassi and Telly Savalas were the only known 70's-80's men in entertainment that were bald, both very masculine, both lost hair at an early age. I am not ruling out hyperandrogenism in favor of sensitivity to DHT


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    Feb 22, 2015 10:48 PM GMT
    BIG_N_TALL said
    ELNathB said
    Is hair replacement therapy or hair loss a straight or gay mens issue? All the treatments and advertising seem to be geared towards straight men because women seem to find balding men unattractive, gay men don't seem to care if we have shaved or bald heads


    I found this interesting since I have noticed where a lot more woman pay attention to me since I started losing my hair. Guys on the other hand don't seem to like it, generally.



    Yeah, that is interesting, you are one of those losing your hair before 30 years old. Back in the 70's-80's, that was unheard of, very rare. Now its very common. You are a big, masculine guy, from the south? maybe you intimidate gay men in your area, that is if you are out. Women probably think you are straight because you don't fit the stereotype in your area?

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    Feb 22, 2015 11:16 PM GMT
    Times have changed. Many years ago, baldness was considered unattractive and a sign of old age. But men have embraced their baldness and thankfully stopped doing the comb-overs. icon_lol.gif

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    Feb 23, 2015 12:02 AM GMT
    ELNathB said
    BIG_N_TALL said
    ELNathB said
    Is hair replacement therapy or hair loss a straight or gay mens issue? All the treatments and advertising seem to be geared towards straight men because women seem to find balding men unattractive, gay men don't seem to care if we have shaved or bald heads


    I found this interesting since I have noticed where a lot more woman pay attention to me since I started losing my hair. Guys on the other hand don't seem to like it, generally.



    Yeah, that is interesting, you are one of those losing your hair before 30 years old. Back in the 70's-80's, that was unheard of, very rare. Now its very common. You are a big, masculine guy, from the south? maybe you intimidate gay men in your area, that is if you are out. Women probably think you are straight because you don't fit the stereotype in your area?


    I don't think I'm that intimidating haha. I just found that guys have this tendency to look for that 'perfect' person... that gay advertising only reinforces. I'd say more often that not, gay advertising always has young guys with a head full of hair as opposed to having balding/bald, buzz cuts, etc.

    I read an interesting theory in a biology journal a while ago about how scientists are thinking that male pattern balding may be a sex characteristic to attract mates (females). Who knows how true it is. The theory also mentioned baldness being associated with dominance and testosterone.
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    Feb 23, 2015 1:25 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    UndercoverMan saidBecause gay men instinctively know a bald head is an indicator of hyper masculinity and virility.

    Since when?

    ...


    For me it was since Yul Brynner in The King and I.
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    Feb 23, 2015 2:15 AM GMT
    Bald heads are sexy, comb overs and toupees are hideous. If balding keep it short....NOT like Peter Boyle in Everybody Loves Raymond.

    I II and III look hot with a flat top too!
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    Feb 23, 2015 4:03 AM GMT
    Guys seem to like my buzzed head and beard or stache. What I lost on top I think I gained on my face.
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    Feb 23, 2015 5:08 AM GMT
    Personally, I find bald to be beautiful. I think it's cool when men who are going bald embrace it and just shave it all. I suspect that many of our straight and bi women friends don't like "bald men", because straight men who are balding get ridiculously insecure about the issue - think Donald Trump, combovers, hair plugs - all things that look really bad and display male insecurity. Gay men, usually, have enough common sense not to go that route.
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    Feb 23, 2015 5:29 PM GMT
    As a swimmer and surfer I've shaved my scalp for years, it's never seemed to make any difference, pattern baldness or shaved, people seem to like it.
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    Feb 23, 2015 5:55 PM GMT
    TexDef07 said
    Sharkey, don't leave out the self-evident fact that baldness is a sign of demonic possession, as you have so often helpfully pointed out.

    I've never "pointed it out". I have merely posed the question from time to time in the spirit of open enquiry.
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    Feb 23, 2015 7:40 PM GMT
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