Republicans propose declaring Idaho a 'Christian state'

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    Feb 25, 2015 9:08 PM GMT
    Thomas Jefferson, lied to the public, he re-wote, re-arranged and omitted many things to suit himself icon_evil.gif


    http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-propose-declaring-idaho-christian-state-233031805.html


    Supporters say the measure echoes the Christian principles espoused by early U.S. presidents such as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, and that it has added significance at a time when Christians are subject to persecution in countries such as Syria where it is not the dominant religion.

    "We're a Christian community in a Christian state and the Republican Party is a Christian Party," said Jeff Tyler, a member of the committee and backer of the draft resolution.

    "It's important that Christians stand up and be unashamed to say they're Christians."

    Other committee members said they opposed the proposal, but that it placed them in a difficult position because if they voted against it they risked being unjustly labeled as anti-Christian.


    Founding Fathers: Christians or Masons…or Both?
    http://www.endtime.com/blog/founding-fathers-christians-or-masons/


    In a letter to John Adams in 1813, Jefferson explained the reason for writing his version the way he did. “I have performed this operation for my own use, by cutting verse by verse out of the printed book, and arranging the matter which is evidently his [Jesus’ words] and which is easily distinguished as diamonds in a dung-hill. The result is an octavo of forty-six pages.” Commenting on this work, Jefferson wrote in an 1816 letter to Charles Thompson,


    “I, too, have made a wee little book from the same materials, which I call the philosophy of Jesus; it is a paradigm of his doctrines, made by cutting the texts out of the book, and arranging them on the pages of a blank book, in a certain order of time or subject. A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrine of Jesus… If I had time I would add to my little book the Greek, Latin and French texts, in columns side by side.”
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    Feb 27, 2015 1:26 PM GMT
    "The measure argues that the Christian faith is under "strident attack" in the United States, and cites as evidence the absence of Christian traditions and symbols in public institutions such as schools."


    It is not the Christian faith that is under attack, as should be obvious in this article, it is RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, including the freedom from rule under force of government by the religious beliefs of others, which is under attack by these Christians in Idaho, who portray themselves as "victims" instead of the dominant religion of Idaho.

    We don't need any "Christian states", or "Jewish states", or "Islamic states" in this country. We are the UNITED STATES, where freedom of (and from) religion is guaranteed by Constitutional law, regardless of what narrow minded individuals would seek to advocate or impose upon the other citizens according to their own religious zeal. I think Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Washington, and the other founders would agree with me on this, since that is what was written into the Bill of Rights and added to the Constitution to make it clear:


    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
  • tazzari

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    Feb 27, 2015 7:38 PM GMT
    This particular Christian is disgusted and repelled by this sort of fear-filled garbage. Like the American Family Association and others of their ilk, these people do more to repel thinking folks from religion than all the ahteists combined.
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    Feb 27, 2015 10:47 PM GMT
    The Republican Party does not do enough to disavow its fringes. One hopes that this gives Republican Libertarians pause.
  • captproton

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    Feb 28, 2015 6:48 AM GMT
    Thank God there are enlightened members of the Kootenai County Republican Central Committee, because the measure was shelved.
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    Feb 28, 2015 4:51 PM GMT
    captproton saidThank God there are enlightened members of the Kootenai County Republican Central Committee, because the measure was shelved.


    I can tell you from personal experience as one that there are MANY enlightened members of GOP CenComms across the country. Trouble is, they aren't the subjects of the headlines that their unenlightened ones are.
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    Feb 28, 2015 4:59 PM GMT
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    captproton saidThank God there are enlightened members of the Kootenai County Republican Central Committee, because the measure was shelved.


    I can tell you from personal experience as one that there are MANY enlightened members of GOP CenComms across the country. Trouble is, they aren't the subjects of the headlines that their unenlightened ones are.


    They can be, if they make public declarations, and I think it would have served them very well if they had published their stance against that bill in the media. aka call a press conference.

    I also agree about enlightened Republicans, as I know several (not this site, lol) as well as have some family in the US that are Republican, and they get angry at the misinformation about your Prez, as they find no Prez to be all bad, or all good. They have also been appalled at the antics of some powerful Republicans, and so some voted FOR your Prz, as they held their noses.
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    Feb 28, 2015 5:12 PM GMT
    Oh, fuck 'em, who cares? Let them have Idaho.
  • PE_Mike

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    Mar 01, 2015 8:26 AM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidOh, fuck 'em, who cares? Let them have Idaho.


    Amen
  • 24hourguy

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    Mar 01, 2015 2:20 PM GMT
    christian caliphate? icon_rolleyes.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 01, 2015 4:47 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidOh, fuck 'em, who cares? Let them have Idaho.
    along with Texas.
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    Mar 01, 2015 4:56 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidOh, fuck 'em, who cares? Let them have Idaho.

    But I like potatoes. And my conscience would prevent me from buying from Idaho if they turn their State into a Christian theocracy.

    Of course I could try to buy from NW Minnesota. Ryan Potatoes from the Red River Valley are the best I've ever eaten. And the people there are not quite the homophobic bigots as in northern Idaho. Just difficult to obtain Ryans in S. Florida.

    Although presently a moot point, the measure seems to be stalled. But will bear watching, as these fundamentalist Christian wackos only seem to grow stronger in some places, just like the ISIS plague. With many of the same dynamics.
  • tazzari

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    Mar 01, 2015 7:08 PM GMT

    Although presently a moot point, the measure seems to be stalled. But will bear watching, as these fundamentalist Christian wackos only seem to grow stronger in some places, just like the ISIS plague. With many of the same dynamics.

    Exactly - and many of the same roots: fear of change, fear of The Different, longing for a good old time that never existed, toxic religion that affirms their fears and encourages "us vs. them" hatred, and ultimately, intellectual vacuity.