GAY ICONS: The List

  • Svnw688

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    Feb 26, 2015 9:25 PM GMT
    This is intended to be a POSITIVE thread. There's no such thing as a "gay card," but if we had a test to obtain such a card, who would be on the required reading list? Who are LGBT icons EVERY person should at least be passively familiar with?

    I'll start the list off with:

    Harvey Milk
    RuPaul
    Madonna
    Judy Garland
    Sir Elton John
    Barney Frank

    Who else is required reading?
  • Grease_Monkey

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    Feb 27, 2015 12:36 AM GMT
    Ricky martin?
    Freddy mercury?

    I prefer these two over Madonna and Elton John any day
  • mystery905

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    Feb 27, 2015 12:46 AM GMT
    How can you forget Barbra Streisand?
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    Feb 27, 2015 12:59 AM GMT
    Oscar Wilde

    Leonardo da Vinci

    Larry Kramer

    Harvey Fierstein
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    Feb 27, 2015 1:13 AM GMT
    Plato.

    Socrates.

    Alexander the Great.

    Possibly Abraham Lincoln.

    And DEFINITELY Cher...
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    Feb 27, 2015 1:19 AM GMT
    Ellen DeGeneres. icon_biggrin.gif

    Ray Boltz
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 27, 2015 2:01 AM GMT
    Liza Manelli

    Patti Lupone

    The entire cast and creators of Queer as Folk (UK and US).
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    Feb 27, 2015 2:05 AM GMT
    Judy, Barbra, Liza, Bette, these are names I shant forget.
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 27, 2015 2:14 AM GMT
    Fiyero27 saidJudy, Barbra, Liza, Bette, these are names I shant forget.


    And the cast and creators of Will & Grace icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 27, 2015 2:21 AM GMT
    Spazzy
    Artdeco
    Southbeach
    Stuart
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    Feb 27, 2015 2:41 AM GMT
    After American Horror Story Freakshow who can forget Marlena, who popularized female cross-dressing?
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 27, 2015 2:47 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidAfter American Horror Story Freakshow who can forget Marlena, who popularized female cross-dressing?


    I haven't seen that season yet, I'm waiting for it to come on Netflix or OnDemand. I'll pay, I just can't get it now. I failed to DVR the series in time icon_sad.gif

    But Marlena sounds fun.
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    Feb 27, 2015 2:52 AM GMT
    CHER....maybe?

    Bette Midler?

    Barbra Streisand?
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    Feb 27, 2015 3:03 AM GMT
    In this thread: We perpetuate gay stereotypes. icon_lol.gif
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 27, 2015 3:49 AM GMT
    xrichx saidIn this thread: We perpetuate gay stereotypes. icon_lol.gif


    Positive thread, not a bitchfest thread. Time and place.

    I'd add Michelangelo

    Ellen

    Ralph Waldo Emerson
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    Feb 27, 2015 4:22 AM GMT
    Sorry for the typo all, I meant Marlene Dietrich.

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    With her iconic lesbo flick "Queen Christina?"

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    THIS Cuban writer

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    claimed lesbian affairs with both (among other famous actresses of the day). Read on:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/loving-garbo-she-could-be-the-cruellest-of-lovers-as-those-who-were-close-to-her-knew-only-too-well-cecil-beaton-was-one-and-so-was-mercedes-de-acosta-described-as-one-of-the-most-notorious-of-lesbians-acosta-boasted-she-could-get-a-woman-from-any-man-her-conquests-included-not-only-garbo-but-marlene-dietrich-hugo-vickers-tells-of-greta-and-mercedes-affair-1371933.html
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    Feb 27, 2015 4:31 AM GMT
    Cash said
    Possibly Abraham Lincoln.


    Really? icon_eek.gif Was there ever any theory? icon_confused.gif
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    Feb 27, 2015 4:36 AM GMT
    In terms of vintage Hollywood gay iconography, let's not forget Cary Grant and Randolph Scott, who lived together 12 years before and between marriages (longer than most Hollywood marriages), who astonished cast and crew of the only film they worked on together by sharing the same Beverly Hills Hotel room, who introduced roommate "Mr. Blackwell" (he who paved the way for Joan & Melissa Rivers with his "Worst Dressed" lists) to his long term partner, and in old age were frequently seen holding hands.

    Who could miss the context in these (amazingly) art-directed, studio condoned publicity stills?

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    Speaking of other vintage gay Hollywood icons, let's not forget "Rebel Without A Cause's" SAL MINEO and JAMES DEAN (though I don't think they ever slept TOGETHER):

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    AND, very famously, the man who made Elizabeth Taylor gay-friendly to whom millions of AIDS victims may owe their very lives given her future fundraising, philanthropy and research advocacy, Monty Clift:

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    Feb 27, 2015 4:48 AM GMT

    God knows I've gotten up after worst spills in life.
    Just less public. Like her or not, Madge has been on of the most successful icons of our time.
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    Feb 27, 2015 5:04 AM GMT
    Plato
    Leonardo DaVinci
    Michelangelo
    Francis Bacon
    Robert Hooke (?)*
    Oscar WIlde
    Florence Nightingale
    Walt Whitman
    Aaron Copland
    Alan Turing
    Margaret Mead
    Sally Ride

    Well, there are just too many, I could play this game all night.


    * I haven't seen it recorded anywhere that he hooked-up with men. but neither has it been recorded that he ever hooked-up with women. Lived in the dorms his whole life. Isaac Newton hated him so much that he had all of Hooke's records burned when he died, and tried to erase him from history. Obviously the actions of an obsessed ex-lover. Therefore, also:

    Isaac Newton#

    #omg, was that all an awful pun? Of course I am not the first to make this connection. See Neal Stephenson's fictionalized version in "The Baroque Cycle."

    For that matter, let us consider Neal Stephenson. And does anybody have his phone number?
  • AMoonHawk

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    Feb 27, 2015 5:25 AM GMT
    George Michael
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    Truman Capote
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    Rock Hudson
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    Feb 27, 2015 5:30 AM GMT
    Just for your own mental health... try excluding people who are only famous for being famous.

    Axiom: Attention whores do not make the world a better place.
  • Svnw688

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    Feb 27, 2015 8:03 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidJust for your own mental health... try excluding people who are only famous for being famous.

    Axiom: Attention whores do not make the world a better place.


    I don't subscribe to that theory. I think "Attention whores" can serve a very important signaling effect that, in a very real way, can direct and frame the bounds of public/civic discourse. And where people debate, they find commonality, understanding and are more apt to march towards equality/progress.

    This isn't to say that all gay icons are equal, but I do mean to say I think there's plenty of room for everyone--even attention whores.
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    Feb 27, 2015 10:10 AM GMT
    No one has brought up Alan Turing!

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  • buddycat

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    Feb 27, 2015 10:37 AM GMT
    Like others mentioned Judy, Barbara, Liza, Bette, Cher, Madonna. I would also include Martha Wash and Dame Joan Sutherland or your favorite opera divas.