Alabama Supreme Court halts same sex marriage

  • ChicagoSteve

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    Mar 04, 2015 3:50 AM GMT
    I really hope the United States Supreme Court rules soon on the gay marriage issue. Conservative states, like Alabama just don't want to get with modern times. Enough is enough, gay marriage is here to stay, just except it already!
    Thank God I live in a liberal state!

    The Alabama Supreme Court on Tuesday ordered the state's probate judges to stop issuing marriage licenses to gay couples, a decision that flies in the face of numerous rulings by federal judges in Alabama and other states across the country who have said banning gay marriage violates the U.S. Constitution.

    The all-Republican court sided with a pair of conservative organizations Tuesday in ruling that the U.S. Constitution doesn't alter the judges' duty to administer state law, which defines marriage as between only one man and one woman.

    Six justices concurred in the 134-page opinion, which wasn't signed, but the court's most outspoken opponent of gay marriage, Chief Justice Roy Moore, recused himself.

    Gay marriages began in some Alabama counties on Feb. 9 following a decision by U.S. District Judge Callie Granade of Mobile, who ruled that both Alabama's constitutional and statutory bans on same-sex marriage were unconstitutional.

    Immediately after the judge's ruling, Moore told probate judges across the state they were not obliged to issue same-sex marriage licenses. His stance created widespread confusion, prompting some judges to refuse to issue the licenses and others to shut down their operations for all couples, gay and straight, until they could get a clear answer.

    The court's ruling Tuesday came in response to a request from the Alabama Policy Institute and the Baptist-run Alabama Citizens Action Program to halt same-sex unions after Granade's ruling.

    Justice Jim Main agreed with the result but said he has concerns about procedural aspects "of this highly unusual case."

    In a dissent, Justice Greg Shaw said it was "unfortunate" that federal courts refused to delay gay marriage in the state until the U.S. Supreme Court could settle the issue nationally. But, Shaw said, the state Supreme Court doesn't have the power to consider the issue.

    The court released the decision while Gov. Robert Bentley and most state leaders were assembled in Montgomery for the state of the state address. A spokeswoman for Bentley said the administration was reviewing the decision and had no immediate comment.

    Joe Godfrey, executive director of the Alabama Citizens Action Program, said he was "very excited" about the decision blocking judges from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

    "We are concerned about the family and the danger that same-sex marriage will have. It will be a devastating blow to the family, which is already struggling," Godfrey said.

    Godfrey said the decision will give "some stability" in Alabama until the U.S Supreme Court rules later this year. An attorney couples who filed suit to allow gay marriages said the court showed "callous disregard" in the decision and overstepped its bounds by declaring that Alabama's ban on same-sex marriages is constitutional, something the justices hadn't been asked to consider.

    "It is deeply unfortunate that even as nationwide marriage equality is on the horizon, the Alabama Supreme Court is determined to be on the wrong side of history," said Shannon Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights.
  • brickboy1966

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    Mar 04, 2015 6:47 PM GMT
    I hope it changes soon. I may be moving to Alabama.
  • stud4lover

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    Mar 05, 2015 2:51 AM GMT
    why would anyone who is Gay want to live in such a bigoted neaderhalic state. These people are from another planet. One I have no desire to visit.

    Alabama is truly messed up..
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    Mar 05, 2015 3:15 AM GMT
    stud4lover saidwhy would anyone who is Gay want to live in such a bigoted neaderhalic state. These people are from another planet. One I have no desire to visit.

    Alabama is truly messed up..

    Yeah, I had to live there for 2 years when I was stationed at Army Fort McClellan (now closed).

    I can't tell you how upset I was when I arrived there, and a bowing Black porter at the bus station called me "Massah". That had never happened to me before in my life, and I hope it never does again.

    Alabama Blacks were totally subservient & groveling to Whites, completely afraid of us. It made me sick. And women were also treated badly. I made a post here previously about what I witnessed regarding them. Just shocking & revolting.

    No, there are no redeeming features about Alabama. Except I did learn to water ski there, and it does have some nice scenery.
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    Mar 05, 2015 5:20 AM GMT
    ^
    I learned to waterski there too -- at my aunt and uncle'a lake house. Yes, racism is a major issue there. As well as Alabama -- I went to a restaurant with tons of confederate flags and it was in the middle of nowhere. There were over hundred people waiting and it was a 2 hour wait. The bathroom was a tree for ppl outside...

    Anyway it was awkward and someone yelled something at me, but I just made sure I minded my own business. I actually wrote it my notebook that I would NEVER live in a conservative state/community like that, ever.
  • Apparition

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    Mar 06, 2015 12:05 AM GMT
    exactly why dont americans just kick out the embarrassing states? I mean they are all poor and suck up resources, and provide no benefit whatsoever. Last in income, last in education, first in teen pregnancy, first in trailer trash, etc. I mean what on earth are you keeping them for?
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    Mar 06, 2015 4:02 AM GMT
    Ightway ashtray. Pig latin for....
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    Mar 06, 2015 5:22 AM GMT
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    I learned to waterski there too -- at my aunt and uncle'a lake house.

    I "learned" on the Coosa River in 1981, not far from Talladega, which is dammed and forms some large lakes. Another Army Captain & I rented a beautiful Glastron fiberglass speedboat from the Ft. McClellan recreation office, along with a trailer for it. For some outrageously minor cost, I think $8 for the day, with an additional charge for water skis. We towed it down to the Coosa.

    His wife came with us, and he bragged about what a great water skier he was. Well, he failed to even get up out of the water after around a dozen tries, his wife & I alternating at the wheel. Finally his wife persuaded him to let me have a try.

    Well, I'd never water skied before, but I was game. I popped right up out of the water the first try. A little unsteady at first, I quickly got the hang of it. Then I started cutting back and forth across the boat's wake, having a great time, I didn't want to stop.

    This annoyed the other guy, that I was succeeding so well, when he had failed despite his bragging about his nonexistent skills. So he began wild maneuvers with the boat, trying to dunk me. He couldn't, and I saw his wife trying to get him to stop before he hurt me, or them.

    I decided I'd had enough of my turn, anyway, and didn't want to sour our friendship (though I'd learned something about his vain & childish behavior I didn't admire). So I finally just threw the tow rope away, and settled ever so slowly into the water, perfectly upright, like I was on an elevator.

    We later eventually got him up on the skis after about a dozen more tries (his wife didn't want to attempt it herself), but he was a rather weak skier, despite his claims. He never totally forgave me for outdoing him, in fact never discussing our boat outing ever again. Nor was there another.

    I haven't water skied in a few years, my back won't let me. But it was fun when I did, and I actually found it rather easy.
  • NealJohn

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    Mar 06, 2015 4:08 PM GMT
    And this is one of many reasons why the state of Alabama is broke. It weren't for the game people that live there already I say we should just leave them to their bigotry.
  • hazeleyesinla

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    Mar 07, 2015 12:03 AM GMT
    I grew up in Alabama & his is the mentality that drove me to leave. Welcome to Alabama, you can marry your cousin, just not your same-sex lover!