AA First Class

  • ChicagoSteve

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    Mar 05, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
    Nice video of a flight on American Airlines new A321T service from LAX-JFK. I really like American's premium cabin product. I'm flying AA next month from Chicago to California. I hope to upgrade to First Class at least in one directionicon_smile.gif

  • ChicagoSteve

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    Mar 05, 2015 2:53 AM GMT
    On my last west coast trip on AA, I upgraded to First LAX-ORD. Yes, it was a 737-800, but it was worth it. Very good cabin and meal service. A couple of years ago on AA, I upgraded LGA-ORD on an MD-80,it was a dinner flight and definitely worth it. I fly only AA now. I usually upgrade at least in one direction.
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    Mar 05, 2015 10:29 PM GMT
    It would be worth it on a 10 hour or longer flight; e.g., San Francisco to Europe, or Tokyo.
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    ChicagoSteve saidOn my last west coast trip on AA, I upgraded to First LAX-ORD. Yes, it was a 737-800, but it was worth it. Very good cabin and meal service. A couple of years ago on AA, I upgraded LGA-ORD on an MD-80,it was a dinner flight and definitely worth it. I fly only AA now. I usually upgrade at least in one direction.


    Glad you are a fan. Thank you! icon_biggrin.gif


    Same here last XMas, but on a 737-8 both ways. Not a bad 1st at all, and MUCH better than AA's "enhanced" coach, whose "enhancements" were lost on me. Nicest domestic 1st I've ever flown? TWA's JFK-SFO L-1011 service. Now THAT was deluxe! UA's IAD-SFO/LAX on a 747 isn't so bad either, but I think they use smaller aircraft now. For the real deal on seats, check out SeatGuru.com .
  • ChicagoSteve

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    Mar 07, 2015 12:51 AM GMT
    When you upgrade to First Class, you get an idea of what flying used to be like, before it became a Greyhound bus in coach class. I am an ex airline employee(TWA), so I traveled for many years being able to book First Class on a regular basis. You become very spoiled. I don't get free tickets anymore, but to me it's worth it to pay and upgrade to First at least one way. I usually do it on the way back. It's my way of splurging on myself and putting a nice relaxing finishing touch on my trip. Planning to do that next month when I fly ORD-PSP roundtrip on AA.
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    Mar 07, 2015 1:14 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    ChicagoSteve saidWhen you upgrade to First Class, you get an idea of what flying used to be like, before it became a Greyhound bus in coach class. I am an ex airline employee(TWA), so I traveled for many years being able to book First Class on a regular basis. You become very spoiled. I don't get free tickets anymore, but to me it's worth it to pay and upgrade to First at least one way. I usually do it on the way back. It's my way of splurging on myself and putting a nice relaxing finishing touch on my trip. Planning to do that next month when I fly ORD-PSP roundtrip on AA.


    ORDPSP is still MD-80 I believe. Grab em while you can, they'll only be around a few more years.


    Yes, it is. Southbeach, what is the real scoop on the MD-80s? I had heard they were going to be totally out of the fleet by the end of 2016. Another article I read, said not until 2020.
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    Mar 07, 2015 10:23 AM GMT
    I recently flew first class form LAX to ATL as an up-grade on a Delta B-767. While the extra seat room, service and satisfactory meal were a bonus over coach, I wouldn't pay the extra money on domestic flight. Delta's Economy Comfort has been used on trips to Asia, South America, Australia and Europe. It's hit and miss, depending on the aircraft. Avoid Economy Comfort on the Airbus 330 at all costs. The B-767 service and extra room were OK, but the B-777 was outstanding for comfort.
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    southbeach1500 said
    ChicagoSteve said
    southbeach1500 said
    ChicagoSteve saidWhen you upgrade to First Class, you get an idea of what flying used to be like, before it became a Greyhound bus in coach class. I am an ex airline employee(TWA), so I traveled for many years being able to book First Class on a regular basis. You become very spoiled. I don't get free tickets anymore, but to me it's worth it to pay and upgrade to First at least one way. I usually do it on the way back. It's my way of splurging on myself and putting a nice relaxing finishing touch on my trip. Planning to do that next month when I fly ORD-PSP roundtrip on AA.


    ORDPSP is still MD-80 I believe. Grab em while you can, they'll only be around a few more years.


    Yes, it is. Southbeach, what is the real scoop on the MD-80s? I had heard they were going to be totally out of the fleet by the end of 2016. Another article I read, said not until 2020.


    I'm pretty sure the last ones will go in 2018 (not sure beginning or end of that year though).


    The MD-80 is about as close as you can get now to the experience of flying on a 727S in the '70s. Call me old-fashioned, but that was and remains my favorite airplane of all time. 1st was really cool because it was so quiet up there, and what engine sound you heard was only a high-pitched whine that sounded almost naive and innocent, much like the times - and me - relatively speaking. It was the only aircraft to be awarded a medal, by the King of Morocco for escaping pursuing fighter jets during an attempted coup and surviving their strafing attack!
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    Mar 09, 2015 5:51 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said
    ChicagoSteve said
    southbeach1500 said
    ChicagoSteve saidWhen you upgrade to First Class, you get an idea of what flying used to be like, before it became a Greyhound bus in coach class. I am an ex airline employee(TWA), so I traveled for many years being able to book First Class on a regular basis. You become very spoiled. I don't get free tickets anymore, but to me it's worth it to pay and upgrade to First at least one way. I usually do it on the way back. It's my way of splurging on myself and putting a nice relaxing finishing touch on my trip. Planning to do that next month when I fly ORD-PSP roundtrip on AA.


    ORDPSP is still MD-80 I believe. Grab em while you can, they'll only be around a few more years.


    Yes, it is. Southbeach, what is the real scoop on the MD-80s? I had heard they were going to be totally out of the fleet by the end of 2016. Another article I read, said not until 2020.


    I'm pretty sure the last ones will go in 2018 (not sure beginning or end of that year though).


    The MD-80 is about as close as you can get now to the experience of flying on a 727S in the '70s. Call me old-fashioned, but that was and remains my favorite airplane of all time. 1st was really cool because it was so quiet up there, and what engine sound you heard was only a high-pitched whine that sounded almost naive and innocent, much like the times - and me - relatively speaking. It was the only aircraft to be awarded a medal, by the King of Morocco for escaping pursuing fighter jets during an attempted coup and surviving their strafing attack!


    I didn't know about that or have forgotten. I presume you mean the 727 and not that tired old flexiflyer the DC9/MD80? Gawd I hated that plane. Too much tornado flying in them a long time ago in the plain states.
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    Mar 09, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    MGINSD said
    southbeach1500 said
    ChicagoSteve said
    southbeach1500 said
    ChicagoSteve saidWhen you upgrade to First Class, you get an idea of what flying used to be like, before it became a Greyhound bus in coach class. I am an ex airline employee(TWA), so I traveled for many years being able to book First Class on a regular basis. You become very spoiled. I don't get free tickets anymore, but to me it's worth it to pay and upgrade to First at least one way. I usually do it on the way back. It's my way of splurging on myself and putting a nice relaxing finishing touch on my trip. Planning to do that next month when I fly ORD-PSP roundtrip on AA.


    ORDPSP is still MD-80 I believe. Grab em while you can, they'll only be around a few more years.


    Yes, it is. Southbeach, what is the real scoop on the MD-80s? I had heard they were going to be totally out of the fleet by the end of 2016. Another article I read, said not until 2020.


    I'm pretty sure the last ones will go in 2018 (not sure beginning or end of that year though).


    The MD-80 is about as close as you can get now to the experience of flying on a 727S in the '70s. Call me old-fashioned, but that was and remains my favorite airplane of all time. 1st was really cool because it was so quiet up there, and what engine sound you heard was only a high-pitched whine that sounded almost naive and innocent, much like the times - and me - relatively speaking. It was the only aircraft to be awarded a medal, by the King of Morocco for escaping pursuing fighter jets during an attempted coup and surviving their strafing attack!


    I didn't know about that or have forgotten. I presume you mean the 727 and not that tired old flexiflyer the DC9/MD80? Gawd I hated that plane. Too much tornado flying in them a long time ago in the plain states.


    Yes, B727-200, the "Stretch." Like the notorious DC-10/MD-11 for the L-1011, the DC9/M80 was a cheap, rushed-together imitation of the real thing:

    http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopics/Boeing-727-282183.html

    Now, I think I like the 777 best - 747s are getting a little long in the tooth and can be rattly at times - but I've yet to fly a 787 Dreamliner or the A-380 Superjumbo. The former is graceful, the latter looks ungainly, but then even the Spruce Goose flew!
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    Mar 09, 2015 9:48 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    MGINSD said
    southbeach1500 said
    ChicagoSteve said
    southbeach1500 said
    ChicagoSteve saidWhen you upgrade to First Class, you get an idea of what flying used to be like, before it became a Greyhound bus in coach class. I am an ex airline employee(TWA), so I traveled for many years being able to book First Class on a regular basis. You become very spoiled. I don't get free tickets anymore, but to me it's worth it to pay and upgrade to First at least one way. I usually do it on the way back. It's my way of splurging on myself and putting a nice relaxing finishing touch on my trip. Planning to do that next month when I fly ORD-PSP roundtrip on AA.


    ORDPSP is still MD-80 I believe. Grab em while you can, they'll only be around a few more years.


    Yes, it is. Southbeach, what is the real scoop on the MD-80s? I had heard they were going to be totally out of the fleet by the end of 2016. Another article I read, said not until 2020.


    I'm pretty sure the last ones will go in 2018 (not sure beginning or end of that year though).


    The MD-80 is about as close as you can get now to the experience of flying on a 727S in the '70s. Call me old-fashioned, but that was and remains my favorite airplane of all time. 1st was really cool because it was so quiet up there, and what engine sound you heard was only a high-pitched whine that sounded almost naive and innocent, much like the times - and me - relatively speaking. It was the only aircraft to be awarded a medal, by the King of Morocco for escaping pursuing fighter jets during an attempted coup and surviving their strafing attack!


    I didn't know about that or have forgotten. I presume you mean the 727 and not that tired old flexiflyer the DC9/MD80? Gawd I hated that plane. Too much tornado flying in them a long time ago in the plain states.


    Yes, B727-200, the "Stretch." Like the notorious DC-10/MD-11 for the L-1011, the DC9/M80 was a cheap, rushed-together imitation of the real thing:

    http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopics/Boeing-727-282183.html

    Now, I think I like the 777 best - 747s are getting a little long in the tooth and can be rattly at times - but I've yet to fly a 787 Dreamliner or the A-380 Superjumbo. The former is graceful, the latter looks ungainly, but then even the Spruce Goose flew!


    I haven't been on a 787 or 380 yet because I really couldn't go anywhere the four years both my parents were in bad shape. So the 777 is my favorite too.

    The POS DC9 reminded me of sitting in the back of an old Constellation it was that flexy. Yes, I'm that old. I just tried to make I didn't fly late afternoon in the great Plains states anymore than I had to. Avoid the blow up Thunderstorms and worse as much as I could. .
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    Mar 10, 2015 5:28 AM GMT
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    Yes, B727-200, the "Stretch." Like the notorious DC-10/MD-11 for the L-1011, the DC9/M80 was a cheap, rushed-together imitation of the real thing:


    freedomisntfree said

    The POS DC9 reminded me of sitting in the back of an old Constellation it was that flexy. Yes, I'm that old. I just tried to make I didn't fly late afternoon in the great Plains states anymore than I had to. Avoid the blow up Thunderstorms and worse as much as I could. .



    Now, now.... The DC-9/MD81-2-3-7-8/MD90/MD95 (717) is a wonderful airplane!

    Let me explain WHY the DC-9 is in many ways superior to the 727-100/200:

    1) The flight deck only requires 2 pilots, the 727 required 2 pilots and an engineer. Much more expensive to operate because of that.

    2) The DC-9 has just 2 engines, the 727 has 3. Again, much more expensive to operate because of that.

    3) The 727 has an engine "buried" in the rear of the fuselage. Much more difficult to service, which means much more expensive to operate.

    4) Seating on the Dc-9 was 2x3. Passengers like having the "2" seats as you are only 1 seat away from the aisle.

    5) The DC-9 was able to be stretched from the original "10" series all the way up to the very economical MD90 series. A remarkable program, just like the 737 program.

    Ponder that! icon_lol.gif


    Maybe it's those white knuckle flights throughout the plain states in tornado season that did it to me. Just seemed like I was always on a DC9.
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    Yes, B727-200, the "Stretch." Like the notorious DC-10/MD-11 for the L-1011, the DC9/M80 was a cheap, rushed-together imitation of the real thing:


    freedomisntfree said

    The POS DC9 reminded me of sitting in the back of an old Constellation it was that flexy. Yes, I'm that old. I just tried to make I didn't fly late afternoon in the great Plains states anymore than I had to. Avoid the blow up Thunderstorms and worse as much as I could. .



    Now, now.... The DC-9/MD81-2-3-7-8/MD90/MD95 (717) is a wonderful airplane!

    Let me explain WHY the DC-9 is in many ways superior to the 727-100/200:

    1) The flight deck only requires 2 pilots, the 727 required 2 pilots and an engineer. Much more expensive to operate because of that.

    2) The DC-9 has just 2 engines, the 727 has 3. Again, much more expensive to operate because of that.

    3) The 727 has an engine "buried" in the rear of the fuselage. Much more difficult to service, which means much more expensive to operate.

    4) Seating on the Dc-9 was 2x3. Passengers like having the "2" seats as you are only 1 seat away from the aisle.

    5) The DC-9 was able to be stretched from the original "10" series all the way up to the very economical MD90 series. A remarkable program, just like the 737 program.

    Ponder that! icon_lol.gif


    Holy Bottom Line, Batman! But, did you know that the 727 was the only jet that that could take off and land on gravel runways?

    Oh, and you want flexy/bouncy/jouncy/trouncy? Remember the DC-8? UAL was still flying those into the '80s! Not to be outdone, TWA still flew 707s ORD-LAX well into that decade.
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    I flew on DC 8s, which I liked, many times and of course 707s and even a Constellation or two, which I didn't much like. I was a little kid and it was likely bad weather.
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    Mar 11, 2015 2:44 AM GMT
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    Holy Bottom Line, Batman! But, did you know that the 727 was the only jet that that could take off and land on gravel runways?

    Oh, and you want flexy/bouncy/jouncy/trouncy? Remember the DC-8? UAL was still flying those into the '80s! Not to be outdone, TWA still flew 707s ORD-LAX well into that decade.


    Well... the original 737 (not sure about the latest NG versions) is also able to take off and land on gravel runways. icon_wink.gif

    Yes, the DC-8 60/70 series was interesting. Today the 757-300 comes pretty close to giving a similar ride.


    My personal favorite aircraft will always be the 727. Just really an iconic airplane. When I worked as an F/A for four years, we were able to bid schedules by equipment and I always bid 727 flight lines first. Talking about gravel runways, I remember one trip at TWA on a 727-200 where the flight went STL-FPO-NAS. If memory serves me correctly, the runway at that time in FPO was gravel. Kind of a strange experience. As someone posted above, the 727 was a very fast airplane, almost like a fighter jet. And it had the most beautiful lines. I worked one of the last 727 revenue flights, a charter from MBJ to MKE in 2002. It was my last working trip on the 727. Sad day.
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    Apr 18, 2015 4:30 AM GMT
    Flew back today from Palm Springs to Chicago and upgraded to First Class.

    Trip Report: AA flight 2303 PSP-ORD
    Aircraft type: MD80

    Seat 3A, Bulkhead window. We left about 45 minutes late due to an issue with one of the engines not starting after push back from the gate. We were towed back into the gate, but the delay was minor. Maintenance fixed the issue and we were on our way.
    Climb out was bumpy over the mountains, but what a beautiful view!. When inflight service started I had a Chardonnay with the dish of warm nuts (really good).
    2 Entrée choices(Chicken Tikka or Lasagne) I went with the chicken, it was good, nice leafy salad and a side dish of pita bread with olives and hummus.
    Had a second glass of Chardonnay to wash it down.
    Made up some time in the air and arrived in Chicago only about 25 minutes late. What I thought was a really nice touch, there was a young Marine on my flight, and AA upgraded him to First Class.

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    ChicagoSteve saidFlew back today from Palm Springs to Chicago and upgraded to First Class.

    Trip Report: AA flight 2303 PSP-ORD
    Aircraft type: MD80

    Seat 3A, Bulkhead window. We left about 45 minutes late due to an issue with one of the engines not starting after push back from the gate. We were towed back into the gate, but the delay was minor. Maintenance fixed the issue and we were on our way.
    Climb out was bumpy over the mountains, but what a beautiful view!. When inflight service started I had a Chardonnay with the dish of warm nuts (really good).
    2 Entrée choices(Chicken Tikka or Lasagne) I went with the chicken, it was good, nice leafy salad and a side dish of pita bread with olives and hummus.
    Had a second glass of Chardonnay to wash it down.
    Made up some time in the air and arrived in Chicago only about 25 minutes late. What I thought was a really nice touch, there was a young Marine on my flight, and AA upgraded him to First Class.



    Nice trip report, thanks for posting it!


    ^+1! If I ever have free drink tickets, I give them to uniformed sailors in the gate area, in thanks and in memory of my own Navy days. It's nice when the passengers applaud the servicemen as they come forward to take their seats in 1st.