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  • metta

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    Mar 05, 2015 7:23 AM GMT
    Looking for a new career, consider picking one where they are estimating a shortage:


    The U.S. is facing a massive shortage of doctors and nurses in the next 10 years

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/04/1368529/-The-U-S-is-facing-a-massive-shortage-of-doctors-in-the-next-10-years
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    Mar 05, 2015 8:13 AM GMT
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    Mar 05, 2015 3:49 PM GMT
    There's a shortage of nurses now. That's one of the reasons why I'm a travel nurse so I can go around the country and assist those hospitals who are in need.
  • metta

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    Mar 05, 2015 4:42 PM GMT
    I have been told that once you finish your prerequisites, it only takes 2 years of college to become a Physicians Assistant and they start around $100k in some areas of the country.

    Prison nurses can also start around that.

    I have a friend, also a RJ member, that has 3 nursing jobs: one in a hospital, one in a dialysis center, and one as a University instructor in Nursing. He is doing his best to fill the available jobs but he can't do all of them. ;)
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    Mar 05, 2015 5:33 PM GMT
    Too late for me ..
    I going to stick with mine , thinking holding on for another 5 years then retire .
    As a purser , i am already at the top of the ladder ( which is a very small ladder in my field ..lol..) , so no hope for promotion either icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 05, 2015 5:39 PM GMT
    metta8 saidI have been told that once you finish your prerequisites, it only takes 2 years of college to become a Physicians Assistant and they start around $100k in some areas of the country.

    Prison nurses can also start around that.

    I have a friend, also a RJ member, that has 3 nursing jobs: one in a hospital, one in a dialysis center, and one as a University instructor in Nursing. He is doing his best to fill the available jobs but he can't do all of them. ;)


    Good for him but that's insane! I would rather work overtime in the same unit, pocket the cash and get some sleep. Actually, I really value sleep! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 05, 2015 5:40 PM GMT
    Drone pilots are in very high demand.
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/01/15/air-forces-lack-of-drone-pilots-reaching-crisis-levels/
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    Mar 05, 2015 6:18 PM GMT
    The world is facing a massive shortage of doctors. It's a domino effect. When I lived in Malawi many doctors and nurses were leaving for South Africa for better pay and working conditions. There were jobs to fill because of how many Drs and nurses were going to the UK, Canada and USA for better pay and working conditions.

    A few years ago they started increasing the number of spots in medical school with the goal to produce 20% more grads/yr after a decade. However, they haven't increased funding for residency spots since the 1980s- when the US population was 100 million less and significantly younger (=fewer medical problems.)

    I will say that being a doctor is an incredible career. But if you do it for the job security and the money (both of which are definitely there) you will burn out and not be very good at it. Same goes for nursing.
  • Eli_jah

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    Mar 06, 2015 12:29 AM GMT
    99% of people don't have the time or money to complete medical/nursing degrees and residencies, nor the aptitude or empathy needed to succeed in such a high-stress field.

  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 06, 2015 1:53 AM GMT
    Am I the only one who remembers being told in 2008 - 2009 there would be MORE health providers instead of fewer?


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    Mar 06, 2015 2:10 AM GMT
    Mulignan said99% of people don't have the time or money to complete medical/nursing degrees and residencies, nor the aptitude or empathy needed to succeed in such a high-stress field.

    Also, 98.3 percent of statistics are made up.

    But I'll bet your made-up statistic isn't far off.
  • kevmoran

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    Mar 06, 2015 3:00 AM GMT
    This may not be true for everyone, but a general rule is to choose your career based on your skills and (some) interest, not based on what will make the most money. Both of my parents did that, with my mother choosing nursing for the exact reason people are now. My mother is miserable as a nurse and has hated her job for 40 years. My father is in the same position as an engineer, which he admits he chose only for the salary. Miserable.

    Choose wisely boys!
  • metta

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    Mar 06, 2015 3:02 AM GMT
    ^
    Agreed. I'm not suggesting that people choose them just because of income...if that was the case...everyone should become a hedge-fund manager. But it may be helpful to at least look at types of jobs where we know there are/will be shortages. icon_smile.gif
  • Eli_jah

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    Mar 06, 2015 3:04 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Mulignan said99% of people don't have the time or money to complete medical/nursing degrees and residencies, nor the aptitude or empathy needed to succeed in such a high-stress field.

    Also, 98.3 percent of statistics are made up.

    But I'll bet your made-up statistic isn't far off.


    The stat is exaggerated, but did I lie? doctors make up a small % of the workforce.
  • metta

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    Mar 06, 2015 3:17 AM GMT
    ^
    You don't necessarily need cash if you work hard, are good in school, and are able to get financial aid. I know people who did not grow up with money that worked their butts off to get their education that they did not have the money for. They were determined and succeeded.
  • kevmoran

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    Mar 06, 2015 4:22 AM GMT
    metta8 said^
    You don't necessarily need cash if you work hard, are good in school, and are able to get financial aid. I know people who did not grow up with money that worked their butts off to get their education that they did not have the money for. They were determined and succeeded.

    Anymore that's a myth that only people who went to college in the 70's and 80's still pass on. School's just don't give out full rides anymore, and even a half ride still means you're paying $20k a year. I have the maximum scholarship amount at my school and I'm still scraping by with loans.

    Not to say someone shouldn't go into medical, but the 30+ crowd loves to boast about how they just "worked hard in the summer" to pay for school. It's not possible anymore.
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  • Eli_jah

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    Mar 06, 2015 4:37 AM GMT
    kevmoran said
    metta8 said^
    You don't necessarily need cash if you work hard, are good in school, and are able to get financial aid. I know people who did not grow up with money that worked their butts off to get their education that they did not have the money for. They were determined and succeeded.

    Anymore that's a myth that only people who went to college in the 70's and 80's still pass on. School's just don't give out full rides anymore, and even a half ride still means you're paying $20k a year. I have the maximum scholarship amount at my school and I'm still scraping by with loans.

    Not to say someone shouldn't go into medical, but the 30+ crowd loves to boast about how they just "worked hard in the summer" to pay for school. It's not possible anymore.


    Exactly, the whole economy of higher education has changed. you don't hear about kids graduating from medical school and not being able to find residences though, I'll say that. There are thousands of law school grads on the other hand slaving away for low wages in associate positions or not being able to find employment in their field.

    The downside is coming out of med school with 100k+ in student loans (on top of undergrad), but your income would make up for it.
  • metta

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    Mar 06, 2015 6:54 AM GMT
    I have a friend that graduated with his masters degree last year. He had to pay foreign fees on top of that. His family does not have money. He could not get financial aid as a foreign student. He made it work by getting private bank loans. He also worked while in school to help keep the debt down. He went to State colleges to help keep expenses down. It is still possible...just depends on how much you want it. It is not necessary to go to a private school for most careers.
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    Mar 06, 2015 7:37 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidForty years of hating your job? I would implode with a serious physical illness or something else similarly catastrophic.

    It's easier to say, but money does take first preference when you have to take care of a family. Not everyone is lucky enough to get the kind of job they would like along with the money. You can see how most of the people from Humanities are struggling these days.
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    Mar 06, 2015 8:16 AM GMT
    Mulignan said
    paulflexes said
    Mulignan said99% of people don't have the time or money to complete medical/nursing degrees and residencies, nor the aptitude or empathy needed to succeed in such a high-stress field.

    Also, 98.3 percent of statistics are made up.

    But I'll bet your made-up statistic isn't far off.


    The stat is exaggerated, but did I lie? doctors make up a small % of the workforce.


    I'm only speaking on behalf of nurses and not doctors. There are plenty of people who are making time to go to nursing school. Many of the schools have a waiting list and I had to wait a year to get into a program. The time and money needed are dependent on an individual's determination to succeed, as previously mentioned by someone else on here.

    But you are right about the high stress field and it's the type of stress I dont mind having because I'm part of a team that saves lives. In other words, I can go home and sleep....and the time and money I spent on my education was well worth it!
  • kevmoran

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    Mar 06, 2015 4:26 PM GMT
    metta8 saidI have a friend that graduated with his masters degree last year. He had to pay foreign fees on top of that. His family does not have money. He could not get financial aid as a foreign student. He made it work by getting private bank loans. He also worked while in school to help keep the debt down. He went to State colleges to help keep expenses down. It is still possible...just depends on how much you want it. It is not necessary to go to a private school for most careers.

    You can definitely make it work, I am as well. But I'm sure your friend is still paying off those loans and will be for a long time. I should be able to pay mine off by the time I'm 30 and that's almost unheard of in my generation. Most of my friends will die with debt.
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    Mar 06, 2015 5:36 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidThere is a shortage of airline pilots in the USA. Sure, you would have to start at a regional for about $24k per year, but the demographics are such that you'll graduate to the majors in about 5 years or so if things go right for you - the demand is that great at the moment.



    I agree , a great percentage of the pilots i fly with , aren't young per say , lots of them come from the military , some of them are near retirement .
    The airlines companies are faced with a not an easy choice , hiring pilots coming from regional , train and certified them for the aircraft they have on their fleet ( which is costly ) or keep the oldies who because of their seniority have higher salaries .
  • metta

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    Mar 07, 2015 3:10 AM GMT
    kevmoran said
    metta8 saidI have a friend that graduated with his masters degree last year. He had to pay foreign fees on top of that. His family does not have money. He could not get financial aid as a foreign student. He made it work by getting private bank loans. He also worked while in school to help keep the debt down. He went to State colleges to help keep expenses down. It is still possible...just depends on how much you want it. It is not necessary to go to a private school for most careers.

    You can definitely make it work, I am as well. But I'm sure your friend is still paying off those loans and will be for a long time. I should be able to pay mine off by the time I'm 30 and that's almost unheard of in my generation. Most of my friends will die with debt.


    Yes, he only recently started paying them off. But I'm sure that he will pay them off quickly.
  • SilverRRCloud

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    Mar 07, 2015 7:18 PM GMT
    I believe that liking what you do for a good pay may be a very great blessing but it is certainly not a prerequisite for a productive career.

    I have been on several sides of the fence: employee, freelancer and employer. I belong to the much maligned upper part of the 1% if that happens to be any indicator of a successful career.

    The whole issue really boils down to your attitude. If you subscribe to the idea that you work in order to be able to live in comfort, you are nailing it in the head. You are harboring realistic expectations, and are not suffering from delusions in which someone pays you for something that you really want or need or would like to enjoy but for what they want, need and want to enjoy. Truth is so rewarding because it sets you free.

    Now, quite a few people insist that they can only do what they like to do, and fear that otherwise they would be failing pretty much every step of the way. They are really voiding their lives of its content by reducing it to the world of work which is usually controlled by someone else. Once either specific people or market forces decide that your work happens to be superfluous or in very low demand, you are looking into the 'game over' syndrome unless you have a great talent of reinventing your love and yourself at a possibly very short notice. I do not envy these people at allicon_lol.gif


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