At 59%, Support for Same-Sex Marriage Hits New High in US

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    Mar 10, 2015 2:05 PM GMT
    "Almost six in ten Americans say they favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to enter into same-sex marriages, the highest level of support ever recorded in a NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

    In the new survey released Monday, 59 percent of Americans said that they favor same-sex marriages while just 33 percent said they oppose them."


    I note the poll was conducted jointly by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal. The latter hardly being a bastion of liberal bias, as some on RJ falsely claim of NBC News.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/59-support-same-sex-marriage-hits-new-high-n320171
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 10, 2015 6:31 PM GMT
    Laws can be passed to make anything legal or illegal except what is in people's hearts.

    That takes time, even generations. Heart-deep hate is one of those things we can be glad people are compelled to take their graves.

    I've been watching them die off one by one for 55 gay years and never cried a tear for any of them, even my own paternal relatives in Lowdnesboro Alabama or Fred Phelps, the Phantom of the Opera fundamentalist Westboro cult leader.
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    Mar 10, 2015 6:31 PM GMT
    pazzy saidWell.... is it just me or do some gay guys misinterpret same sex marriage support data for being how much people are homophobic in the us? just because someone says ok to same sex marriage doesn't mean that they're less homophobic.

    I would think there's a rather strong correlation. How could homophobes support same-sex marriage? Now retaining certain prejudices, that's certainly possible. But homophobic means a much stronger opposition to gays.
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 10, 2015 7:30 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    i personally think that one of the biggest perils of the whole "same sex marriage" thing is that you'll have many gay people in america thinking that it's the final frontier in terms of gay civil rights or homophobia when it's only just the government recognizing that it was wrong for practicing institutionalized discrimination where it's stopping it. that in itself doesn't mean anything. hell, if anything, i'm going to predict that there's going to be a lot of bias attacks happening towards gay people or folks expressing opposition towards it.


    There are some very good historical models to back up your prediction, Pazzy.

    The most recent one had to do with abortion which became legal in 1973. For the next 15-17 years opponents to abortion tried every trick they could to get Roe v Wade repealed or contested.

    When they ran out of legal options The US got its first glimpse at christian fundamentalist terrorism.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#United_States

    Here we are in 2015. Fundamentalists have made abortion almost inaccessible or restricted in most states with their regulations on it.

    They're more organized and bold now than they ever were during the anti-abortion era.

    Bryan Fischer of the fundamentalists American Family Association has already told his faithful radio listeners that the gay issue will be settled by ballots or bullets. He's the same guy who's published a book called "The Pink Swastika" a totally fictitious account of homosexuals in Germany being recruited by and helping Hitler.

    You can hear his "ballots or bullets" comment at this YT link. It's 16 min long but full of info you would enjoy and need to know.

    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qyyFP4601Q
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    Mar 10, 2015 8:35 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    bobbobbob said
    pazzy said
    i personally think that one of the biggest perils of the whole "same sex marriage" thing is that you'll have many gay people in america thinking that it's the final frontier in terms of gay civil rights or homophobia when it's only just the government recognizing that it was wrong for practicing institutionalized discrimination where it's stopping it. that in itself doesn't mean anything. hell, if anything, i'm going to predict that there's going to be a lot of bias attacks happening towards gay people or folks expressing opposition towards it.


    There are some very good historical models to back up your prediction, Pazzy.

    The most recent one had to do with abortion which became legal in 1973. For the next 15-17 years opponents to abortion tried every trick they could to get Roe v Wade repealed or contested.

    When they ran out of legal options The US got its first glimpse at christian fundamentalist terrorism.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#United_States

    Here we are in 2015. Fundamentalists have made abortion almost inaccessible or restricted in most states with their regulations on it.

    They're more organized and bold now than they ever were during the anti-abortion era.

    Bryan Fischer of the fundamentalists American Family Association has already told his faithful radio listeners that the gay issue will be settled by ballots or bullets. He's the same guy who's published a book called "The Pink Swastika" a totally fictitious account of homosexuals in Germany being recruited by and helping Hitler.

    You can hear his "ballots or bullets" comment at this YT link. It's 16 min long but full of info you would enjoy and need to know.

    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qyyFP4601Q
    [/url]



    that's the dangerous part about this whole same sex marriage thing. you have plenty of gay people in america becoming disillusioned thinking that suddenly hundreds and thousands of years of a society where homophobia is present and a way of life is going to change overnight and society is going to be welcoming to that change. you already have folks that are getting a bit TOO comfortable thinking everything is all sweet and that's how folks get caught slipping.


    No it's not that simple. But it isn't just Gay people who understand the civil rights issues involved. Nor was it just black people who understood the black civil right movement.

    http://atyourlibrary.org/culture/murder-civil-right-workers-while-registering-voters-shocks-nation-1964

    Certainly people have died for both causes. And they don't have to be Gay or Black.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Mar 10, 2015 11:32 PM GMT
    I think people just are tired of the fight and don't care much anymore whether gays can married of not
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:12 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidI think people just are tired of the fight and don't care much anymore whether gays can married of not


    I care and my hetero friends care even more than I do.
    Bless Them All for giving a damn about the civil rights of others.
  • wesv

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    Mar 11, 2015 2:19 AM GMT
    Just 33% oppose same-sex marriage? Back in 2004, only 33% of Americans supported SSM.
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    Mar 11, 2015 7:13 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidI think people just are tired of the fight and don't care much anymore whether gays can married of not

    People are fighting? For what? This is funny.
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    Mar 12, 2015 2:00 AM GMT
    More Than 300 Republicans Call on Supreme Court to Recognize Gay Marriage Nationally:

    http://time.com/3734626/gay-marriage-supreme-court-republicans/